Windoze 11 & local accounts
 

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I dunno why people make a big deal of this.
I have an M$ account just for Windows and Office 365 I also fly against popular opinion and really like OneDrive find it really useful . The email is used for nothing else so any data it gathers the only difference is it has this email to go with it . Next to no difference between local and not

Its silly to tell ppl how to get around stuff like that because if MS sees it,they could try to block it.....

Its best to keep stuff private (Off public sites where MS could see)

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I find this a big deal. The local account type is very useful for me on an office machine free to be used by anybody. Tamper proof MalwareBytes and other measures avoid any misuse.

Why are MS turning into Apple? Whatever happened to choices.

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Tell me how a local account is any more secure than signing in with a dummy email on a PC others use? Windows Hello can secure apps and stop changes being made same as any Admin account . A local account with a password is no more secure imo than a M$ account just for that machine

You have the same choice Use Windows or don't use Windows I do not get it. Makes no sense to me

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I don't password protect my local account. The machine is there for anyone to use. I prefer portable storage for this set up. I don't want mine or any other persons business on the machine.

My laptop has my windows account on. But that's because it's for me and only me.

I understand a dummy account but that's more remembrance which I can do without.

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you can go to local account when windows is setup the no big deal really need accounts for just about everything now

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So there is no difference then . Log in with email madeupforthismanchine@outlook.com jobs the same can set auto log in too

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The OCD in me being a neat freak does not want excessive accounts. It's clutter that I just don't need.

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Yep, I used a spoof email when found I 'had' to. No idea if stuff gets sent towards it, but it sure won't reach it as it doesn't exist.

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How does an MS account work if the PC is not on the internet ?

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Well that is the flaw in M$s logic expecting everyone to have the net although the vast majority will. It also slows down the whole OOBE by searching for updates delaying first boot by sometimes a while but the account type makes no real difference

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ok that is relevant to you and fair enough but in practical terms it makes no odds. OneDrive has saved me loads of time too when I forget to back up files when clean installing or changing drives it just saves them and automatically recovers them to a new install Plus it also allows auto save and back up in office 365 which is also very helpful

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I don't have 365. I purchased office products from G2A or gamers outlet so onedrive doesn't really apply to me with it being a very small amount of storage for my account type.

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TBH I was just using general info as to why in reality having to sign in with an M$ is of little consequence

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Chris Titus has a work around for the preview with the bypasses removed already

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rufus still works to bypass Microsoft account and Britech on youtube has some new ones not sure how long they will last before being blocked

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The changes are only on the latest insider preview anyway so it wont matter to most for a while yet anyway

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On both Windows and Linux user accounts do not have admin/root access. On Windows I have local admin accounts to do admin things, on Linux there is always root and use of sudo to control what local accounts can do admin wise.

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I think you misunderstood me. It's not a question of security. It's a question of Microsoft changing things whether you want them to or not, taking WAY too much personal data and forcing you to use Copilot, Recall and a number of other terrible ideas. I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW. My laptop works fine as is, so I don't want changes. The risk is much less than Microsoft alleges (Norton is on the case - hell, it picked up on a dodgy torrent, of all things), and I accept it.

As I said, there's always Linux. :p: I'm debating buying a 4TB internal SSD so I can dual boot and try both - and if (as is likely) I prefer Linux, that'll be PLENTY of space.

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Yeah that is the choice people have. I keep telling people all over the place no one is forcing them to use Windows and yes I totally agree Recall is bad but for me I will be following Chris Titus work and will remove it.

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While no one technically forces the use of windows, the fact that many of the apps I use are not available limits my choice.

Linux GUIs are just not the same, no matter what the various varients tell you.
I really dont want to have to learn a whole bunch of new ways, and new software.
I want one that looks and behaves the same (Windows 2000 style would be ideal).

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Personally I love KDE Plasma. I can set up 4 virtual screens and move between them scrolling on the background. I can also set up Activites which can have multiple virtual screens. It is highly configurable and just does what I need.
Others prefer GNOME for the same reasons I don't like it. Thing is, you aren't tied down to one. You can likely make it look like Windows 2000.
With the change in how users store files (in Documents, Photos, Videos etc) the change in directory structures is less relevant. Processes you use each day are not going to be that different. I have a remote Linux desktop session running on one screen of my Windows laptop and things really aren't that different.
I would give you the application issue. If you need an application that only runs in Windows you are more tied in, despite the improvements made in getting Windows apps running under Linux. (I have Steam working with the games I want to run under Linux, generally as well as in Windows.)

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You can set up virtual desktops in windows too .

I have seen a few versions of Nix set up as XP so pretty close to windows 2000 in look and feel

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I refuse to have a Microsoft account for Windows and will continue to refuse to have one for as long as possible.

I was talking about this elsewhere but there is currently only a couple of things keeping me on Windows and if those change, I will leave Windows in the past.

1: Destiny 2 get's Linux support officially or Keyboard and Mouse support on Console officially.

2: Elgato create Linux drivers (only if one of the options from number 1 happen).

3: Frontier provide full Linux support or add the ability to use any hotas and keyboard on console with Frontier supporting console again.


At the moment I have Windows 11 Pro on all my pc's, but now that I have found an issue that was causing an issue with 1 of the pc's, I will eventually be reloading both pc's with my Windows 11 Enterprise ISO's I have, then making sure that I get rid of any extra bits that are left in for Microsoft to steal information for selling.



This whole Microsoft Account thing started when they started giving the "Upgrade from Windows x to Windows x for free", the only reason they did it for free is because they were/are selling your data to anyone and everyone willing to pay for it including:


Device connectivity and configuration data

Device properties such as the OEM manufacturer, processor type, and memory attributes.

Device settings and configurations, such as networking and peripherals data.

Product and service performance data

Basic error reporting, such as whether updates were successfully installed.

Reliability data about the health of the operating system or services.

Software setup and inventory data

Operating system version, configuration details and updates installed.

Apps and drivers installed on the device.



This lot is supposed to be "Optional" but if you don't change it then it's "Mandatory"

Browsing history data

Browser activity, including browsing history and search terms in Microsoft browsers.

Changes to browser configuration impacting search experiences.

Device connectivity and configuration data

More detailed information about device settings and configurations.

Inking, typing, and speech utterance data

Samples of the content you type, write, or dictate on the device.

Details about status of transcribing input into text.

Product and service performance data

More detailed information about device and service health.

Product and service usage data

App activity, such as which apps are launched.

Operating system and services usage.

Software setup and inventory data

More detailed information about the operating system, apps and services installed.



All of that information is associated with you, and it doesn't matter if you use a "Throw Away" account or not, if they are keylogging and screen scraping etc they know that "Throw Away" account is not you really, and given everything they are trying to do with Data collection (Recall), the UK Government trying to get access to everything on our pc's, phones, tablets, cars, brains etc etc, it won't be long before they will be scraping everything.


If you manage to get rid of the telemetry and block all that lot going back to them, the question then is why bother with a Microsoft account?

There is no legitimate reason to force a Microsoft account, it's all purely about getting as much information to sell as possible.

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I do have access to platforms that authenticate via my MS account, bit like Google on the phone. For some of these I don't have a direct login, it's only via MS. These platforms are more likely work or college than personal.

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