Windows 11 25H2 officially released
 

Windows 11 25H2 now officially released

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/soft...load/windows11

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have they stopped he m.2 controller issue yet? all my updates are delayed till I know I do not have to deal with that

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seeing as this is just an enablement package I would not force an in place upgrade and any issues caused previous will not be fixed ie the m.2 issue

Re: Windows 11 25H2 officially released
 

24H2 preview showing here :LOL:

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do you mean the missing hard drive issue that was a firmware problem

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had mine paused for the 5 weeks maximum . . . it seems to have ran out today . . halfway through a gaming session.

Managed to kill it - eventually (damn near a full lockdown on everything) and now paused for another week . . or until I go Linux :mad:

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Controller issue I do not think it was decided it was definitely firmware as it is spread across different controllers

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if your uncertain be best to wait unless you got a spare drive you can test it on

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I have 4 P3 4TB and they have one of the controllers so i am fine passing

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Have Microsoft stopped releasing the updates via a updater application?

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no but what they do is slowly roll out some of the so called "Feature Updates" which this one is prior to the release date and then all they do is send a package that enables it. 24H2 was a much larger Feature Update mor elike a proper service pack so was delivered different to this one

Anyone with upto date windows 11 that meets criteria (sometimes updates are flagged due to known issues and you will not get offered these) will already have 25H2 on their PC just waiting for it to be enabled

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no it a enablement package it very quick to update here is link for the enablement package

https://catalog.sf.dl.delivery.mp.mi...74b4786974.msu

it a official Microsoft link

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wish I thought of that

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did you update to 25H2

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I was being sarcastic because I had explained it fully

I am not upgrading till the m.2 issue is fixed there is no concrete explanation. Firmware has no been proven to be the cause

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The M.2 thing is weird, had no issues with it myself but a mate who has practically the same setup as me, has the same board, cpu, ram, psu, nvme and gpu, I have not had the issue but he has.

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maybe a bios update needed when jaytwocents on youtube had the m.2 missing drive he updated bios and fixed it even though he blamed a windows update at first

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I know some people seem to be having luck by turning off VMD in the bios on Intel Systems and on AMD if they suffer by turning off SMV if enabled, then plugging in a Windows installer pen drive, using the "Repair" function and then turning the setting back on.

Still something weird is happening and I wouldn't be shocked if it was Microsoft's fault.

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as I have said there is no concrete evidence just anecdotal and until there is my updates are staying off

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The above has appeared in windows update this morning

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Trying to get an answer off crucial as to what the score is with the M.2 issue as I have 4x4TB P3 Plus drives in my PC with the controller that has the issue and it is like £1000 worth of drives really do not want to risk issues even though a reboot appears to fix it .

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Well fingers crossed it goes ok because 25h2 has just started installing via windows update on my pc.

If it causes an issue though, I will just bring forward my move to Windows 11 Enterprise.


Edit

5 minutes later and it is installed with no issues, went a lot faster than I was expecting given it normally takes 30 minutes or longer for these updates.

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You already had the updates install it was just switching them on

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Few things I have spotted so far which only happened after a few reboots after installing the update:

1: Microsoft have changed the default internet browser back to Edge without permission

2: Reinstalled Microsoft Teams even when uninstalled

3: Reinstalled applications removed via tweak tools

4: Changed the power profile of the pc from AMD Power Profile to a "Eco Friendly" one

5: Changed my DNS back to Google instead of my Pihole

6: Forced my One Drive account to now be used to sign into Windows, Edge, Xbox and other stuff where "they see fit" for it to be used, and it has deleted my local account as well as all saved files in the documents folder etc that had not been backed up.

7: Removed my Google Account for my music channels on YouTube in Edge and replaced it with my Google Account I have attached to Chrome and One Drive.

8: Removed Firefox and Chrome from being pinned to the taskbar

9: Reinstalled One Note and Sticky Notes

10: Removed the drive mappings from Unraid server


So this weekend I need to do some stuff at my grandads house, and then once done, I am ripping Windows 11 Pro off my 2 main pc's and both are going to Enterprise.

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After reading that list I'm certainly not upgrading . . and may well be rooting out the old Win 7 disc :D

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I will not be going near W11 anytime soon, still happily on W7 here.

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I hear there's many W10 and W11 users trying out Linux Zorin 18 OS. You can run it from a pen drive to test it before taking the leap and installing it over your existing OS.

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Nix is great as long as it works out the box on the hardware you own. If it does not then 99% of regular users will come unstuck. I know today it is a lot better but it is still not a windows replacement for general consumers imo

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£48 for the "Pro" version. :erm:

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My Zephyrus update or turned on 25H2 today. I'm intrigued what will happen to my local account desktop when that decides to update.

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only really need a Microsoft account to setup windows on a new clean install but can use rufus to bypass that you can use a local account fine once windows is installed

since you be doing a update you should be totally fine

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That's reassuring :tu;

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I have been duel booting linux and windows for a while, after the latest Windows 11 25H2 downgrade i think its long overdue i ditch windows. I just cannot handel all the crap Microsoft are adding for there advantage and all the good stuff they are deleteing.

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Has the network icon changed in the notification area? I've got a wired ethernet icon for a wireless connection :dunce: there's no VPN installed on the machine.

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try turning wifi off and on again see if icon changes to wifi

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I did no joy :( I sent Microsoft feedback with screenshots.

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Strange. The WiFi icon is back. :shrug:

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Is it linked to the new heating stuff?

:D

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Nope. That kit isn't that smart. Windows on the other hand has a mind of its own.

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. . . and wants everyone's mind also :D

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If you are on e25H2, there is a new setting in

Settings
Privacy & Security

Scroll to the bottom and there is

Text and Image Generation

You may wish to turn it off...


https://www.elevenforum.com/t/enable...dows-11.26022/

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It was not there on mine but searching the setting found it . Thank you but why do we not want it? nothing has actually used it on my system

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As of yet, Microsoft have a habit of deploying an update that does not start being used at first but they will once the heat is off. You can bet that if you turn it off and then there is an update the update will turn it back on.

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If there is AI in Windows, I want it to be my choice to use it, rather than it being on by default.

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This is the basis of a common argument I have with a lot of people in IT.

By making the choice to use Windows you are choosing to abide my M$s EULA and M$ because they license and not sell the software has the right to implement any clause they see fit. For example Recall AI and Logging in with a M$ account

Now most of these implementations can be circumvented , even in the new preview installs you can run a script that still allows local log in for now. Recall can be removed and AI has settings so far that can be turned off . And I am sure the same methods to remove aspects of a windows install will still be available for AI also .

I do totally agree with you but also accept by choosing Windows I also have to accept that includes Microsoft and what they want

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Yeah but the feature changes are available and all of them are tested in the preview channels. I follow Chris Titus on Youtube he is pretty much all over these changes and has tutorials on how to build your own Windows ISO removing all the features you do not want. Personally the only issue I have is Recall and it is not actually activated on none Co Pilot PCs yet but it can be removed building your own ISO

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Something else Microspy decided to turn on and force onto people without notice etc.

https://wccftech.com/microsoft-train...u-turn-it-off/

If you want to turn it off, this is how you can do it as the information in the article is not correct about turning it off.

This is how I managed to turn it off:

1: Press "Windows Key + G"

2: If it comes up with "Gaming Co-Pilot" as a "Window" then on the left side of the "Gaming Co-Pilot" windows click "Settings"

3: Click "Privacy Settings" and in there you can disable it all


Now if it doesn't come up with "Gaming Co-Pilot", on the top you will see a bar which has buttons for "Friends, Audio, Capture, Performance" on that bar to the left hand side of it, you will see a block of 3x3 dots, click that and click on "Gaming Co-Pilot" if it's there and then go to part 3 above.

I am not sure if this is only available if you use the "Game Bar" and have an account signed in for "Xbox" or if it's available for all, also I am not sure if this is a "25H2" feature or not, so if you have not updated to "25H2" you may not have it.

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Thankfully as a Nobara 42 user with the KDE desktop i dont have to worry about copilot, recall or any of the other bull excreta that microsoft is trying to force on users. :LOL:

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But ... but ... but its AI, why wouldn't you want it.
AI is the best thing ever, or so they would have you believe ... :erm:

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I believe, I believe . . honestly I believe AI is brilliant

right, that's the AI search bots satisfied and reporting back that everything is going fine :D

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Sometimes I feel like I am the only tech expert that likes Windows in nearly all its variations. I Liked Vista because I invested in plenty of Ram and it run awesome I liked 8 once Start8 was installed and I like Windows 11 too

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I liked Windows 2000, and I dont mind Windows 7.

Never used Windows 8, but I gather its similar to Windows 7.

Dont care for Windows 10, and certainly dont like Windows 11, they messed up all the context menus.

(Just part of a bigger issue with W10/11, they made loads of unnecessary changes, and added tons of bloat).

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The only time i use windows now is at work. I am not into AI or having all my usage monitored and analysed. My home Pc's are all linux based and i will not be changing back to the latest AI slop from Microsoft.

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Can not argue with that but if you install English international instead of UK or US you get a lot less bloat

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Vista was great when you ran it how it should and had a system powerful enough for it.

My issues with Vista started after a GPU Waterblock cracked, after that it never ran fine for me, and I ended up back on XP till about 12 months after Windows 7 released.

I have still not done a fresh install using my Enterprise ISO's yet, but I have a lot going on at the moment but once I am able to relax etc I will be doing that, will get rid of a lot of crap that is not needed.

Did a fresh install though the other night using a normal Win 11 Pro iso, the International one not using the media creation tool, my god they have filled that with so much bloat and you cannot uninstall a lot of it without using something like the Chris Titus tool.

For those interested though the "Shift + F10" then "oobe\bypassnro" then unplug your ethernet or do the "Ipconfig/release", bunch of commands still works on Win 11 Pro to create a local account.

Microsoft may learn one day but sadly I don't think I will be alive when that day comes unless a miracle happens.

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Its my Work Laptop, so I dont really have a choice on that.

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I really liked Windows ME. So much more stable than Win 98.

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