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From Guido fawkes
In a busy month for TV news, the latest BARB viewing figures reveal that GB News has outpaced BBC News and Sky News on average for the whole of July. GB’s total average viewership across the month stood at 1.37%, compared to the BBC’s 1.33% and Sky’s way down on 1.14%. Summer of content for the People’s Channel… Yesterday, GB News raked in an average of 92,400 live views, while BBC News had 58,100 and Sky News only 54,900. A reminder that Comcast has not yet renewed their contract with Sky. Britain’s news channel leaving the mainstream media in the dust… |
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I may be way off but I do not consider this a working class forum more middle class and often out of touch with what lower levels of society want I do not mean that offensive it is what it is . I think the general population have had enough and that is why Reform did so well recently
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CF is mostly old male cable TV/broadband nerds (me included). A representative sample of the the population, it isn't. But that doesn't matter there's a place for everyone ;)
As for Reform (and their GB news pals), once elected as we've seen in local Govt they're a busted flush. All very well protesting but that's all they can do. If you use a protest vote prepare for the consequences. |
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well we are pretty screwed voting labour or conservatives . No better options anywhere
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From the BARB website https://www.barb.co.uk/monthly-viewing/ https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1754075981 Also, from the Press Gazette (where the figures don't match Guido's) https://pressgazette.co.uk/publisher...sky-july-2025/ Quote:
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Gb news must be doing something right to get all those views, question is what are they doing that the others aren't
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In the words of Jim Cornette, "For the people who like that kind of thing, that's the kind of thing they like". |
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example: Years ago you watched on TV what your dad wanted to watch. Now everyone has a Phone, or laptop, and probably a TV in each bedroom, so you can watch watch, listen to, and read whatever you're into . . within reason :) |
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Is there another channel so overtly right wing?
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What is wrong is for Government to ignore those feelings and for the likes of the BBC to do likewise. Indeed what is “right wing”? Gas the Muslims? Gas the Jews? Gas the Catholics? Gas the Tories? You can’t put a valid finger on “Right Wing” in the general UK context. Yet everyone knows what the “left wing” is - and it is the opposite of what the average Brit believes. |
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‘Understanding the values of the average Brit’ you say. Do you have the numbers/evidence to support that or are you just testiculating*
*the art of waving one’s arms about whilst talking complete balls |
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Voters ? Or? |
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I rapidly drifted away from BBC News when almost every topic became about women.
Rich women, poor women, fat women, thin women, artistic women, sporty women. No matter what the major event was, they morphed it into something about women. Women may be around 50% of the population, but does all reporting have to be about them? Sky News just seems biased and full of adverts, but so is GBNews in most respects. But at least GBNews has the guts to invite people from opposing political views to join in their debates. |
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Leaving aside that they cherry-picked the stats, it's probably not that surprising if they were to be the most popular. BBC and Sky News are pretty dry and essentially repeat the same segments outside of the morning and evening slots. Out of the relatively small demographic of people who watch rolling news, I think GB News is more likely to have a partisan and engaged audience who are getting more commentary and interesting shows. It's closer to the American style of news channel, with less focus on standard reporting and more emphasis on personalities and entertainment.
It's not how I think news should be done, but you can't argue that they're not doing something different. I must admit I was wrong on them. I thought there would be room for one right-wing news channel, but I thought it would be TalkTV or whatever it was called, the Murdoch one. |
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And the question you’re dodging is
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You know exactly what right wing means. As such you’ve still not answered my question and it’s safe to say you’ll keep doing that.
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GB News takes a right-wing stance on issues, and any politicians presenting are right-wing. Armed with this new knowledge, you can now answer the question. Or not. |
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So, what do you mean by "right wing"? |
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I've no idea if I'm a Right Winger or a Left Winger, what are the characteristics I should look for in order to be assigned a label?
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You described yourself as “right wing” in the past. You figure it out.
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Right Wing = Support a smaller state, less government intervention and maybe less socially progressive. Although it's not that simple. I.E Old Labour tended to be less socially progressive but supported a bigger state. Some people on the populist right also think that way now. You also get people who want a much smaller state and are socially progressive in that the government shouldn't get involved in the personal lives of anyone. |
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right . . .
so what does 'support a smaller/bigger state mean exactly? Are we about to dump Scotland and Wales, or take over the whole of Ireland? Please also explain 'Socially Progressive' too, because for years I've just seen society go backwards. I'm wondering if the Raving Looneys are the party for me, are they Left, Right, or out of this World? :D |
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LEFT = Support a bigger state, more government intervention and maybe more socially progressive. (As per Damien's Left Wing). LEFT WING = LEFT + nationalise what you can; maximal governmental intervention; include migration within socially progressive policies; totally screw the rich (whoever that is defined as being). Oh - gas the Tories RIGHT = Support a smaller state, less government intervention and maybe less socially progressive. (As per Damien's Right Wing). RIGHT WING = ???? It's certainly not going to be RIGHT+. According to Starmer, it's anyone who supports demonstrations against the Connolly woman who tweeted something deemed to be racist in the heat of her distraught moment after the Southport murders. Even @Russ has a difficulty defining "right wing". |
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lol you wish
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The wing on the right.
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Is 'Any Questions' on GB News? How many Labour or Liberal Democrat presenters are there on GB News? |
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I'm trying to get Russ to define "right wing", which is a term he used in relation to GB News. He framed a question around that so, before I can answer him properly, I need to know what he means by "right wing". Russ has avoided obliging me with his definition.
I'm not surprised - it's not easy. Past "right wing" has been founded on the Mussolini/Hitler model. But that was then. I've noted what Hugh has researched: Quote:
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I didn’t join CF for politics. I came to have fun and to improve cable tv output. Now I’m not sure if any of that applies.
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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1754209113 What’s your definition of right wing? (please don’t default to your previous standard answer of "its well understood"… |
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That has to be out of date now though unless it is the American system where Liberal means something totally different to here. How are the far left Radical ? I thought they were meant to be passive
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Hugh asks a fair question. "Far right" and "right wing" to my mind are merged concepts. The pedantic might say that anything right of "centre" (whatever the "centre" is) is on the right wing of politics.
But generally, we all understand that, in present context, right wing politics = far right politics - namely the people that Starmer says support Lucy Connolly and the injustice of her imprisonment. Waters nicely muddied. ---------- Post added at 09:42 ---------- Previous post was at 09:40 ---------- Quote:
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Just repeating it doesn’t make it true… A recent YouGov survey showed https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articl...right-spectrum Quote:
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And cable has indeed improved. There are no cloned modems on the network. :D |
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After further reading of this thread, I've come to the conclusion I'm neither Left, Middle or Right concerning my political stance.
I, like probably a few million others, just don't bother voting, because one set of self serving inept politicians is just as pathetic as the other. It's definitely time for real changes, and if there aren't any on the horizon, the race to the bottom will still be in the hands of those too 'scared' to stop blindly running. :PP: |
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Maggy, like a few of us older folk, probably has distant relatives that were members of the Spanish Inquisition :D
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I’ll put this “right wing / far right” thing another way, notwithstanding the political scientists and their absolute lack of understanding of what people think.
What is it, specifically (as in policies or pronouncements), about Reform UK that puts them on the “right wing” and at which number on the 65-89 scale? As a follow-up question, where does GB News sit on that scale and why? Russia certainly that GB News is “overtly right wing” but won’t define “right wing” from his perspective. |
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Another Moderator (and Administrator) function is to tell people to move on when they start to veer off topic. Consider this one of those times. |
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I've never been 'officially' asked what I think. Was it like those survey things that only seem to ask the 'right' sort of people in the 'right' areas? |
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Of course I’m not right wing. I believe in free speech, democracy and no uncontrolled immigration. I also deplore the left wing (a well understood term) who want to take my freedoms away. So far, nobody other than me has defined “right wing” in the context of this thread, least of all Russ who alleges that GB News is “overtly right wing”? Don’t you agree that better precision makes for better debate? |
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No Labour, Green or Liberal Democrat presenters on GB News, so the discussion questions are all set by biased, shouty right-wing presenters. |
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I can't help thinking there's a few posters in this thread that seem to know an awful lot about the content of a program they don't (won't) watch because it's . . . not to their taste?
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Traditionally, per my link below, voters are more aligned with Labour on economic values and the Conservatives on social values. This is the sweet spot that Reform seems to be aiming for. https://flipchartfairytales.wordpress.com/page/2/ ---------- Post added at 13:28 ---------- Previous post was at 13:24 ---------- Quote:
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Of course, we all know that was actually just another of your silly jibes. :rolleyes: I let this one go, but keep it up and you will end up removed from your own topic. |
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GB News is a breath of fresh air. It tells it as it is but (deliberately) adds a right-of-centre flavour. It gives left-of-centre luminaries a free voice and I think the balance is correct. You can contrast this with the other news broadcasters who are subtly polarised toward the left or toward the enemies of Israel sort of thing; they are trying to seem more balanced, but you can't easily change the journo's spots, some of which have been there for donkeys' years. |
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OFWAT has been given its marching orders, OFCOM should be next. The regulators in this country are pathetic. |
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Its not so much being replaced as its functions being offloaded to others.
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