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Police have launched investigations into the Bob Vylan and Kneecap Glastonbury sets.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd0vvnl41mno

The BBC is in a bit of hot water around the fact it continued to broadcast Bob Vylan.

Its a little more unclear what was wrong with the Kneecap performance, which afaik, wasnt broadcast at the time.

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if they start prosecuting acts it's probably going to put off acts performing in future

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well what was chanted could be seen as incitement . IMO they should be prosecuted for that

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The crowd chanted it back are they all to be prosecuted as well

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If individuals can be identified and there its sufficient proof that they did chant it, then, presumably, yes.

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In Belfast police arrested a 72 yo Jewish woman recently for putting Palestinian stickers on an atm. We're getting closer to a police state if the priority is protesters over real criminals .
They don't stop the orange order marches where they sing about "up to our knees in Fenian blood" which happens almost daily.

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Only the ones planning to break the law.

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That would be up to the CPS although they were the incited not the inciters

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or willing participants, from what i hear BOb vylan have a reputation for this kind of stuff

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Hippies. That is all.

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I thought they were a Punk group ?

Anyway, they wont be going to the states now, the US has revoked their Visa's

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“Unlikely”? :rofl:

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I've seen Bob Vylan live a couple of times, they're very good, luckily I was watching the live stream so got to see that as well.

It's as Kneecap have been saying since they got in hot water, the press are keen to talk about what these ppl said, but happy to ignore what they were talking about, the real issue which provoked the statements.

The "funny" thing is, I don't think they expected any of the crowd, or anyone at home to jump on a plane, fly to a warzone and start killing soldiers.

the messages screened behind the group were interestin as well - The UN calls it genocide, the BBC calls it conflict.

Kneecap wasn't broadcast live, but you can watch a lot of it un iplayer - you can hear the free Palestone chants, and jokes about BBC not being able to edit out all the flags etc, not sure how much was cut.

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It's clear what Bob Vylan did that the police can investigate, although I am not sure it it will reach a criminal level.

What did Kneecap do? I am aware of what they've said elsewhere that's got them in trouble, but here I don't see anything worthy of investigation. They joked about a riot outside the court before specifically saying they're not serious, they said the British government is aiding a genocide, and they said 'f Starmer'. None of which is close to illegal.

I also don't see what the BBC did wrong. They stream these performances live, and it's a great thing to do. A side-effect is that you can't be sure what will happen at a live event, and we as the audience understand that. I hope this doesn't stop that.

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People just want consistency and the law applied fairly across the board.

Lucy Connolly remains in prison for Tweet.

Personally, I don't think Bob Vylan should be prosecuted, but neither do I think Lucy Connolly should be in prison.

And as Lucy Connolly is in prison, then to be consistent Vylan should be charged for inciting violence.

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...chmentid=31445

posted by the band earlier https://www.facebook.com/BobVylan

Michael Rosen made a good point yesterday:

http://www.facebook.com/633167224/po...40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

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What is GRO (second paragraph end of the first sentence)

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i think that's maybe a typo of group or maybe intentional?

sorry about the super large image, i couldn't see how to upload image or resize

edit: resized by staff.

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Glasto has always been a leftie luvvies' middle-class bore fest, with an ambling crowd of ageing hippies trying to return to their youth.

And they can't even persuade them to use the litter bins, or stop stealing the toilet paper.

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If nobody had made such a fuss , it would have been long forgotten. The loveys must have their day. Question does anybody think the idf is not committing war crimes.

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Relevant question is whether it’s reasonable to call for the death of a country’s entire armed forces. Anything else is whataboutery at this point. There is an ongoing Gaza conflict thread - ask that question there. :shrug:

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Armed forces are there to be killed . Think the British wished all the German forces in the 1st and 2nd world wars were killed , same with Ukrainian people today with regards to Russian and north Korean troops. Or do you think they wished them well:confused: the trouble today is everyone is so snowflakeish.

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You’re so far off your rocker I suspect you may not have had one.

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The Christmas truce in 1914 and resulting games of football in No Man's Land thankfully prove otherwise. Wishing for surrender or retreat of an opposing army is not the same as wishing soldiers, often conscripts, death.

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Indeed. Destruction by death of an entire opposing army is not a strategic aim in itself. It would also be illegal by the Geneva convention. You can’t wish death on a surrendering soldier, even when you know that when the war is over he may re-join the army he’s a member of.

In the case of Israel there’s also the rather delicate matter of its massive reserve force consisting of those who have recently finished national service. There are up to half a million Israelis who can be called to active duty at any time, over and above the 150k or thereabouts in the standing army.

Are the brain-dead metropolitan lefties of Glasto and their sleb cheerleaders wanting them dead too? Because that’s starting to sound a bit genocidey, and they said they didn’t like that sort of thing.

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Lumping together all the attendees at Glastonbury with a few thousand morons chanting hateful stuff is like lumping all Israelis with the actions of some of the IDF in Gaza - in both cases, I believe the juxtaposition is invalid…

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Where did I do that? I’d say ‘brain-dead metropolitan lefties’ is a reasonable descriptor for the sub-set of Glasto attendees we’re talking about. Unless you think everybody who goes to Glastonbury is a brain-dead metropolitan lefty?

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You know me well enough not to ask that sort of question, and I inferred (incorrectly, as you’ve pointed out) your implication was all-encompassing, not a sub-set.

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:hugs:




they've got a lot of free publicity out of this

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As well as the US cancelling their visas (and thus tour) several festivals have now cancelled their appearance. Doesnt seem to have been a great career move.

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Hippies everywhere will be happy :D however..

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Do not think that many hippies would have been at their concert tbh

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:LOL: everyone loves a good mosh pit :D

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The clip I saw of them looked dreadful, wearing scruffy shorts and the upper body absolutely covered in what looked like home made tattoos.

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Not really surprised, as I said in my first post.