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SnoopZ 03-04-2025 23:43

Paying household bills with a Credit Card
 
It's not something I've ever thought about as I use Direct Debit with Chequing Account.

Who pays household bills with a Credit Card, it must be better if the CC gives you points?

Jaymoss 04-04-2025 00:11

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I guess it may well have changed since the SVT stopped decent deals but you used to get penalised for none DD . Not sure if that is still the case

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a quick google for octopus says this

Cheaper Rates for Direct Debit:
Octopus Energy offers slightly cheaper rates for customers who pay by Direct Debit because it costs them less to manage these accounts

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https://octopus.energy/help-and-faqs...-direct-debit/

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of course the points could well be of a higher value than the extra charges though worth investigating. Please let me know the results hahaha

Chris 04-04-2025 00:40

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Sometimes you can authorise recurring payments from a credit card but in the past I’ve found these harder to cancel than bank debits. Also I’ve only ever used such things to renew an annual subscription for something rather than a monthly bill.

I’d also observe that once you start to push absolutely everything through your credit card, you use up your credit limit much more easily, so you need to make sure your card can cope. One of the benefits of a credit card is you have the ability to pay an emergency bill and then adjust your monthly repayments to spread the cost. It’s not so easy to do that if your entire credit limit is used up on regular stuff.

Jaymoss 04-04-2025 00:50

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36193877)
Sometimes you can authorise recurring payments from a credit card but in the past I’ve found these harder to cancel than bank debits. Also I’ve only ever used such things to renew an annual subscription for something rather than a monthly bill.

I’d also observe that once you start to push absolutely everything through your credit card, you use up your credit limit much more easily, so you need to make sure your card can cope. One of the benefits of a credit card is you have the ability to pay an emergency bill and then adjust your monthly repayments to spread the cost. It’s not so easy to do that if your entire credit limit is used up on regular stuff.

recurring payments would not benefit you. I would set it up and pay monthly manually if there was no penalty

Paul 04-04-2025 03:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36193873)
Octopus Energy offers slightly cheaper rates for customers who pay by Direct Debit because it costs them less to manage these accounts

I actually pay Octopus off every month using my credit card.
I dont pay extra because I have a DD set up with them, they just never use it.

papa smurf 04-04-2025 07:16

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i pay using my debit card, i've never had a credit card.

Jaymoss 04-04-2025 08:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36193879)
I actually pay Octopus off every month using my credit card.
I dont pay extra because I have a DD set up with them, they just never use it.

Maybe Octopus need to edit their info pages then haha. Good though. I will asked them about it on X :-) they are good on there

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Octopus reply makes sense

Quote:

t depends what tariff they're on - if they're on Flexible they will pay more if they don't have a direct debit, but other tariffs it's the same amount whether you have a direct debit or not.

All the best,
Megan 🐙

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So Snoopz go for it nothing stopping you but you would be better to pay as you go.

SnoopZ 04-04-2025 09:16

Re: Paying household bills with a Credit Card
 
Alot of of interesting info here thanks.

My mistake was thinking I could setup a Direct Debit with my Credit Card so if I can't do that it probably isn't worth the hassle because I don't want to pay more for none Direct Debit bill payment.

Taf 04-04-2025 11:00

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I've always paid by DD, an equal payment each month, as it gives a slight discount and makes accounting easier. At least it did until all these price hikes started.

Jaymoss 04-04-2025 11:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36193887)
Alot of of interesting info here thanks.

My mistake was thinking I could setup a Direct Debit with my Credit Card so if I can't do that it probably isn't worth the hassle because I don't want to pay more for none Direct Debit bill payment.

I thought you were on one of the smart tariffs? only the Flexible costs more

SnoopZ 04-04-2025 11:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36193897)
I thought you were on one of the smart tariffs? only the Flexible costs more

I am on Tracker but I thought if someone doesn't pay by direct debit there is an extra charge, whether it's virgin media or octopus or any other company.

Your comment seems unrelated to my question. :D

Sephiroth 04-04-2025 13:13

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Whenever a recurring payment can be made by AMEX (rarely!), I take advantage of it so that I can earn air miles.

Hugh 04-04-2025 13:24

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36193910)
Whenever a recurring payment can be made by AMEX (rarely!), I take advantage of it so that I can earn air miles.

Yup, us too - we get 1.5 Avios points for every Pound spent, and get a free Companion Voucher (which is valid for two years) if we spend over £15k in a year (which is easy to do); plan B is a Barclaycard Avios card (for places that don’t take Amex), and we get 1 point per Pound spent.

Jaymoss 04-04-2025 13:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36193903)
I am on Tracker but I thought if someone doesn't pay by direct debit there is an extra charge, whether it's virgin media or octopus or any other company.

Your comment seems unrelated to my question. :D

Did you miss the quote where I actually asked Octopus who is your supplier I believe ?

Sephiroth 04-04-2025 13:35

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36193913)
Yup, us too - we get 1.5 Avios points for every Pound spent, and get a free Companion Voucher (which is valid for two years) if we spend over £15k in a year (which is easy to do); plan B is a Barclaycard Avios card (for places that don’t take Amex), and we get 1 point per Pound spent.

Thanks for the tip. I should swap my Barclaycard for the Avios card so that I can dedicate those points to BA. My AMEX points will be used for Qantas.

I particularly like the very high AMEX credit limit - needed for 2x business class return ticket to Australia! Then there's double bubble - Qantas points and the equivalent AMEX points.

Paul 04-04-2025 15:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36193903)
I am on Tracker but I thought if someone doesn't pay by direct debit there is an extra charge, whether it's virgin media or octopus or any other company.

Your comment seems unrelated to my question. :D

His comment seems directly related - Octopus told him you dont pay extra for non DD payments unless you are on flexible - you are not, you're on Tracker, so you could pay by CC every month if you wanted. However, you have to do it manually, there is no automation for CC payments.

SnoopZ 04-04-2025 16:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36193915)
Did you miss the quote where I actually asked Octopus who is your supplier I believe ?

I think so as you quoted Paul's message originally and then later quoted me so I was confused as I was just skimming the thread. :D

Hom3r 04-04-2025 18:08

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I've always paid by Direct Debit, the exception is my Xbox Live Ultimate which comes off my credit card.

Itshim 08-04-2025 11:04

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What's a credit card

papa smurf 08-04-2025 11:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36194228)
What's a credit card

It's what poor people have instead of money.:)

Sephiroth 08-04-2025 11:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36194228)
What's a credit card

Something to use with your £1 million.

SnoopZ 08-04-2025 11:59

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36194229)
It's what poor people have instead of money.:)

Lol, or what clued up people use when buying stuff and are sensible enough to be able to pay it off in full each month.

Hugh 08-04-2025 12:55

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36194234)
Lol, or what clued up people use when buying stuff and are sensible enough to be able to pay it off in full each month.

^^^
This

We only do this, or if it’s good value against comparative goods/companies, interest free credit (for example, bought my Pixel 8 Pro on interest free credit over 18 months with John Lewis, as they were also offering £125 off as well (cheapest on the market at that time), and just bought our replacement dishwasher on AO on interest free credit over 12 months) - I’d rather it was in my bank account than theirs (also helps keep our credit rating high, as all payments are by Direct Debit and credit cards are paid off in full each month).

TheDaddy 08-04-2025 14:15

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36194239)
^^^
This

We only do this, or if it’s good value against comparative goods/companies, interest free credit (for example, bought my Pixel 8 Pro on interest free credit over 18 months with John Lewis, as they were also offering £125 off as well (cheapest on the market at that time), and just bought our replacement dishwasher on AO on interest free credit over 12 months) - I’d rather it was in my bank account than theirs (also helps keep our credit rating high, as all payments are by Direct Debit and credit cards are paid off in full each month).

You also get insurance for the full price of the item if anything goes wrong thanks to section 75 of the consumer credit act, whenever I get a new car I pay the deposit on a credit card, often to the dealers chagrin but if they object too strongly I go elsewhere as the full cost is covered, providing its between £100- £30000 iirc

Damien 08-04-2025 14:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36194239)
^^^
This

We only do this, or if it’s good value against comparative goods/companies, interest free credit (for example, bought my Pixel 8 Pro on interest free credit over 18 months with John Lewis, as they were also offering £125 off as well (cheapest on the market at that time), and just bought our replacement dishwasher on AO on interest free credit over 12 months) - I’d rather it was in my bank account than theirs (also helps keep our credit rating high, as all payments are by Direct Debit and credit cards are paid off in full each month).


I do it for Amex points but as has been said you HAVE to pay if off each month otherwise it costs you.

Paul 08-04-2025 15:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36194234)
Lol, or what clued up people use when buying stuff and are sensible enough to be able to pay it off in full each month.

Indeed, and even better, they pay me cashback for using it/them as well.

Itshim 08-04-2025 16:29

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"We" *never borrow money its a sure way to make sure that you will make someone else rich , *well at least since prohibition , according to family stories. Guess we will never know for sure

Sephiroth 08-04-2025 16:55

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36194255)
"We" *never borrow money its a sure way to make sure that you will make someone else rich , *well at least since prohibition , according to family stories. Guess we will never know for sure

£1m goes a long way!!

papa smurf 08-04-2025 17:13

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36194257)
£1m goes a long way!!

You always remember your first one fondly.

Paul 08-04-2025 17:56

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I remember my first million ...... it was in italian Lire in 1995. :D
We went to Italy for a few days, you got about 3000L to a pound.

Hugh 08-04-2025 17:58

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36194255)
"We" *never borrow money its a sure way to make sure that you will make someone else rich , *well at least since prohibition , according to family stories. Guess we will never know for sure

Was that because the last time Republicans introduced such severe tariffs was at the same time (Smoot-Hawley), which worsened the great Depression in both the USA and worldwide?

Sephiroth 27-04-2025 11:10

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DVLA accepts AMEX for the Vehicle Tax.

Itshim 27-04-2025 17:16

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36194266)
Was that because the last time Republicans introduced such severe tariffs was at the same time (Smoot-Hawley), which worsened the great Depression in both the USA and worldwide?

Story has it that our profits increased for no apparent reason at that time it seems that we did a lot of business with Cuba . #


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