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I thought it might be interesting to have a separate thread on Reform UK. They've been making headlines of late with membership overtaking the Conservatives, strong polling, regional conferences, support from Musk and then the expression from Musk that Farage wasn't the person to lead them and how might Musk engineer a replacement for Farage.

So what's the news today?

From a paper keen on Reform UK, the Daily Express

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...bb3c8fe7d&ei=7

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An interesting article on its policy shift to the left.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...s-turning-left

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Anything to take the spotlight off Labour :rolleyes:

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Here's their leader Farage who wants action taken against grooming gangs.

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There he is photographed with that well known person Pakistani heritage.

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Councillors are the most jumped-up self-important berks of our political system IMO. At least Ministers and Prime Ministers have power. I have a theory that the less political power someone has the higher the chance it does to their head.

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My thoughts exactly :p:

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One long leap:erm:

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Yeah you’re probably right. I mean it’s not like we’ve heard much from Farage about Catholic priests grooming children.

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Predictably Desperate and inaccurate comment. They're big enough to warrant their thread.

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Farage is now no longer dead-against allowing Shamima Begum back in to the UK.

You genuinely couldn’t make this up. Indeed the gift that keeps on giving.

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True, when most are, in fact, merely voting fodder.

From my experience this is also the case with so called 'celebrities'. Our local weatherman really thinks he's someone special/famous and his neighbours find him a total irritant. On the other hand, i've met many very famous people who are perfectly grounded & decent people.

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“Man of the people” my furry Welsh arse:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...-huge-34462708

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Nine well paid jobs is better than 1 poorly paid job

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I’m sure that warms the cockles of his Clacton constituents who he never sees.

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They can always vote him out at the next election if they aren't happy with him

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Oh I think that’s a given.

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Related to the previous post by Chris, off topic nonsense removed.

I would also advise all members to remember the rules about using silly nicknames for political parties.

See : https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...2#post36185062

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Only see our labour mp at election time , what's new:angel:

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Clacton will be lucky to see Nine-Job Nigel at election time too.

How much time does your Labour MP spend in America?

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To be fair they are busy making sure rape gangs and their enablers aren't properly investigated.

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All this name calling and generally lame playground conversation is not becoming of you all.

I get it that a large majority of forumers on here don’t like Nigel Farage or Reform UK. But he is popular with a growing proportion of the public for a reason - he is reflecting their concerns and views in his speeches. They like what he has to say.

Whether you are for or against him or his party, would it not be better to discuss their policies and what you agree or disagree with?

I would have thought that nationalising Thames Water and fixing our public services would have gone down quite well with you guys, for example. So what is it you are not agreeing with? Let’s have a grown up debate about that.

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I'm sure once he has, he will :erm:

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Haven't a clue were she is. Walk past offices of her and our AM never open. Seems to be the norm for all elected officials that or hide in China 🇨🇳 after all nothing is going wrong here is it!

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So off to other countries for trade business? Nice.

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Bit daft not to allow ministers to travel overseas to drum up trade. The days of waiting for big trade partners coming knocking all the time ended a long time ago.

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Wasting your time Andrew, no matter what Labour does, they will whinge about it. Not a peep from them during the 7 year long Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse that concluded in 2022. No calls then for action on the 20 recommendations the Tories sat on. Only when Labour comes into power is now such a scandal. This just pure partisan politicking ..

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It never came across my desk

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One hundred and eighty

Jubilant Nigel Farage celebrates as Reform UK hits new membership milestone
The Reform leader marked his insurgent party reaching 180,000 paid-up members.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...orm-membership

4.5 million quid in fees

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Trying to weaponise these poor children's suffering is disappointing at best.

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And the BAFTA goes to...

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But not even slightly unexpected.

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Lee Anderson savaged David Lammy with brutal two-word nickname

Mr Anderson said: "We've got over 6000 villages in the UK.

"If you took the village idiot from every village and put them all into Tottenham, David Lammy would still be the village idiot." :rofl:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...lammy-nickname

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Lee gets bungs from Elon for any old crap he excretes. Easy money.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2677072.html

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I wonder if he got paid for calling Lammy Village idiot :rofl:

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Love the phase, must remember it . So that will be ten minutes, hopefully :D

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Is Tottenham a village now ?

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It must be, it has an idiot. :D

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No, but Lee's not known for his razor-like accuracy. ;)

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Anyone who saw lammy on mastermind would know he's as thick as they come, his ego was writing cheques his brain couldn't cash when he accepted that booking, although it's a bit rich 30p lee having the gall to call someone else thick, he's to dense to remember we don't like experts anymore, even in this his specialist field.

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A shame they weren't both on the same show. I'm not sure who I would have bet on to score the lowest!

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He was our MP until last year.
The recent boundry changes moved us to another area for the last election.

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Good move. :)

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Truly the gift that keeps on giving.

Jaymey McIvoy gets suspended from the Tories for sending unsolicited pics of his tackle.

He then jumps ship to Reform.

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/248...viour-meeting/

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If he did that illegal act then hopefully, Reform UK will expel him. I think their long-term plan is an alliance with the Conservatives and they won't want reputational distractions like McIvoy around.

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If you must tittle-tattle, shouldn't you at least refer to the right bloke? :dunce:

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Was it actually illegal ?
If so, why wasnt he prosecuted ?

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We don't have enough information here hence the 'if' in my post. It could be seen as harassment. As to why he was not prosecuted - we know many crimes are not prosecuted for a multitude of reasons.

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From that link:

“And if you’re really interested in transparency and democracy, Jaymey, tell the people of Ongar why you were expelled from the Conservative Party and jumped ship.

“The reason is you sent an unsolicited picture of your private parts, which is a criminal offence.”

It isn’t a court statement but he hasn’t denied it.

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Reform voting intentions just 1% behind Labour.
https://news.sky.com/story/reform-wi...itics-13286697

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Follow most political thinking ignore it and it will go away. Much like labours policy on the economy :shocked:

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In terms of electoral seats they are far behind and always will be whilst we have our wonderful electoral system and a divided right wing.

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That's why I think Farage will do a deal with the Conservative Party.

To date, he's been very keen to put a clean line between his political parties and the BNP. He's also not supported Tommy Robinson to any great extent; compare his considered approach with that of Musk and other lesser-informed right-wingers.

It was interesting briefly watching the Reform UK Conference in Surrey on YouTube last week. The comments were flooded with supporters berating the Party for not coming out in whole-hearted support for Tommy Robinson. I suspect that Farage knows he'll still have these supporters backing him though.

Farage needs to keep his party as clean as possible if he's going into an electoral pact with the Conservative Party and potentially power in the next election. If that means falling out with Musk and foregoing Musk's money and influence then so be it. Farage understands how our electoral system works and Musk understands how space rockets work. But not vice versa.

I'm afraid that Cameron could well have opened Pandora's box.

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It might not be his deal to make.
Even Reform members are now seeing Farage for what he is. i.e. out for himself, and no real convictions about anything. Hence the number of councillors that have resigned.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0lz8xn8zd8o

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To be fair, that's old news and at this stage can be attributed to growing pains. Don't underestimate the man and his Party.

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This, however is not old news but probably still growing pains if we're kind.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...2ea51f9f&ei=15

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Didn't he quit the UK to live in Spain

and on a personal note i think he's a nob

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I read wrong, Charlie Muslims. Not sure if it's by mistake :erm:

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Reform failed in both council by-elections yesterday.

They’ve won just 7 council seats from 179 by-elections since the General Election.

They have just 53 out of 20k councillors across the UK.

Impressive stuff….

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Very impressive. :rofl:

That said, I wont be attaching a hugh amount of importance to it.
Peoples voting for council seats seems less linked to party - at least around here.
We have a number of independents who got elected on who they are, not what party they were in (or not in).

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Council elections certainly aren’t the b all and end all by any stretch but it does pretty much put the notion of this whole new ‘groundswell’ for Reform in to perspective.

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First Past the Post elections require a party to achieve a concentration of local support in order to win. That’s extremely difficult for an insurgent party in a Westminster constituency but slightly less challenging in a council ward. That’s how the BNP managed to win some temporary success picking up seats in certain parts of England 15-20 odd years ago.

If Reform is going to have any sort of genuine breakthrough, local council seats is where it’ll be evident first. If they’re challenging and yet not winning, well then they’re not doing very well.

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I’ll say.

5 Council By-Elections during the week.

Reform UK failed to win any.

They’ve won only 7 seats from 184 by-elections since the General Election.

They have just 53 out of 20k councillors across the UK.

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I don’t think you understand. Farage is looking to the next council elections with his newly selected candidates in a major push that will give the electorate more confidence to vote for them nationally in 2029.

The figures you have just quoted are irrelevant.

The party hasn’t started yet, and you are a party pooper.

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You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

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Not true. They just need to build up their party member base in every constituency, which I think is entirely possible. Live and learn.

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I don’t think he will win the Conservative Party over. It’s more likely that the right wing of the Conservative Party may defect to Farage, strengthening his position in that way.

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This means nothing. The real test will be the next council elections. If they fail then, I will agree with your sentiments.

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I doubt we ever will.

Given the wall to wall media about the ‘rise’ of the party, I think it says more than you realise.

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Don’t peak to early, Russ. Steady as you go.

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Who selects these candidates - the local Reform UK Association?

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Correct for once, we've seen literally nothing yet

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If they were going to defect, it's likely they would have done so by now.

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I think that's a fair call, they're effectively a start-up Party without the infrastructure of the traditional parties.

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Or the member voting rights for Officers and Candidates...

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Reform cannot be currently seen as a serious political party. Just look at its structure and who "owns" it. The current Leader spends most of his time in the US trying to be relevant to Trump and the Deputy Leader spends half of his time in Dubai where his partner has moved to. Of course both of these two are MP's whose constituents are all probably wondering WTF is going on.

As for Tice, there is a delicious irony over him, his partner and their stated views on immigrants :)

Dubai-based Oakeshott laments immigrants in London

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Apparently Nigel can't hold surgeries as it's not safe because of people with knives, it is however perfectly safe to spend all that time in America getting brushed off by donnie where they have guns :shrug:

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Nigel’s statement was not congruent with actuality…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1l47e86r39o

tbf, that was over four months ago - I’m sure he’s held a constituency surgery by now…

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Given that they are such a non starter, seem to generate a lot of flack

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Has he held any yet?

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Just that people don't like Grifters ... plus other assorted traits

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Farage has been noticeably silent about his nephew who was convicted of upskirting.

Didn’t end up on the sex offender’s register though. Two-tier anyone?

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Good lord, how far you have fallen…………….

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No, not two-teir, normal practice it would appear.

The victim was older than 18, and he was fined, not jailed, so he was not placed on the register.

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You’d have thought he’d have said something though, given how concerned he is about our society and culture.

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I was referring to this site . If so rubbish why get so worried. :erm:

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Did anyone spot any Reform MPs on Twitter/X posting about Holocaust Memorial Day yesterday?

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I dont spot anything on X, ever. ;)

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Just scanned Tice’s feed over the past 24 hours. Nothing to be seen. But now I need a bath so I’m not checking the rest of them.

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Indeed. Neither has any Reform MPs commented on the evil Glaswegian paedophile gang. Strange.

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I stubbed my toe on the back door and they haven't posted about that either

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Maybe Reform are just focused on maligning (non-white) immigrants? Just a thought ...

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I wonder which box Dubai’s Tesco outlook this happened at at?

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:confused:

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...tner-leaves-uk

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Gotcha, thanks for that.

Yes, seems a bit daft to tweet that, if she is indeed currently in Dubai!

Having been to Dubai several times……..that definitely doesn’t happen!

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Didn’t exactly take long for people to start seeing Reform for the grifters they really are:

https://x.com/job_west_/status/1889046415986544978?s=46

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More Clacton voters realising they have been had by Reform and, specifically, the Grifter-in-chief Farage:

Who cares for the common worker?

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I’m sure they’ll voice their concerns directly to him at his Constituency Surgeries…

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How have they been "Had by reform" ?
All those things asked about are current Law are they not ?

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Labour urged to defend workers’ rights bill as poll shows huge public support

There were clearly Farage supporters in the video and they assumed he would support the working people when it came to the proposed law that strengthened workers rights. Clearly not ...

Nigel Farage's Voters Are Shocked At His Opposition To Better Workers' Rights

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If they can afford the air fare to Mar-a-Lago then yes! :D

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Populist voters not realising what they were voting for? Whatever next! ;)

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Reform are not going to win the next election….well I don’t think they are.

Could they partner with the Tories…….potentially.

But what they have done is get Labour spooked. So much so that Labour are desperately advertising that they are really tough on immigration.

If reform weren’t polling where they are now, do you really think you’d be seeing headlines like this ???

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...tation-numbers

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24...ion-crackdown/

https://news.sky.com/story/more-than...tions-13306102

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2695525.html

You can laugh them off, but just because of their current polling they’re effectively His Majesty’s Opposition- on this particular issue.

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And not by labour :shocked: