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Media Boy UK 30-12-2024 15:23
Virgin TV (2025)
 
This is a continuation of the 'Changes to Virgin TV (2024)' thread which you can find here:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...712384&page=78

1. The old thread has been closed, but will remain for information purposes;
2. I will collate all the information from my various sources and post on Cable Forum;

In addition to that I will be on hand to answer any questions that arise and to provide links to other sources of information as they come up.

Thank you.

Here is the CONFIRMED Channels news for Virgin UK and N. Ireland TV:

Testing (As of December 11th):
FAST Channels;
*Hell's Kitchen - Virgin will give it Virgin UK Channel 233 if launch.
*Sky Artist of the Year - Virgin will give it Virgin UK Channel 239 if launch.
*Egg Heads - Virgin will give it Virgin UK Channel 253 if launch.
*Sky Sports Stories - Virgin will give it Virgin UK Channel 558 if launch.
*Sky Sports Classics - Virgin will give it Virgin UK Channel 559 if launch.
*Sky Sports Vault - Virgin will give it Virgin UK Channel 560 if launch.

Linear Channels;
*Cruise1st.tv - Virgin will give it Virgin UK Channel 758 if launch.

January:
*1st. Sky Cinema Christmas HD rename as Sky Cinema Drama HD
*1st. Sky Cinema 10s HD rename as Sky Cinema Hits HD
*1st. Sky Cinema Action HD rename as Sky Cinema Stunts HD
*2nd. Sky Cinema Harry Potter HD rename as Sky Cinema Family HD
*2nd. Sky Cinema Monsters HD rename as Sky Cinema Sci-Fi & Horror HD
*2nd. Sky Cinema Kung Fu Panda HD rename as Sky Cinema Animation HD
*2nd. Sky Cinema Middle Earth HD rename as Sky Cinema Greats HD
*5th. Christmas24 rename as Movies24
*5th. Christmas24+ rename as Movies24+
*6th. Sky Sports Darts HD rename as Sky Sports F1 HD
*6th. Sky Sports Darts rename as Sky Sports F1
*6th. Sky Sports Darts UHD rename as Sky Sports F1 UHD
*TBC. Premier Sports Rugby HD may launch on Virgin Media.

February:
*TBC. Sky Sports NFL HD rebrand as Sky Sports Action HD
*TBC. Sky Sports NFL rebrand as Sky Sports Action

2025:
*Paramount Global to rebrand Channel 5 HD as 5 HD on Virgin Media UK^
*Paramount Global to rebrand Channel 5 +1 as 5 +1 on Virgin Media UK^
*The BBC to stop broadcasting BBC FOUR HD as an linear channel^
*The BBC to stop broadcasting CBBC HD as an linear channel^

^Changes dates not yet confirmed by broadcasters.

2026-2029:
*Warner Bros. Discovery Sport UK may rebrand Eurosport 1 HD UK as TNT Sports TBC HD (By Summer 2026)^^
*Warner Bros. Discovery Sport UK may rebrand Eurosport 2 HD UK as TNT Sports TBC HD (By Summer 2026)^^
*The BBC will close BBC Radio 4 Extra on Digital TV (By 2028)^^

^^ALL Changes dates not yet confirmed by broadcasters.

©Copyright 2025 Media Boy UK 2006 - 2025. A ''Doing it my way'' Production.

Mr K 30-12-2024 16:04
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
I predict the BBC4 closure doesn't happen, and BBC3 might be for the chop again.

nodrogd 30-12-2024 18:34
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
The link from the old 2024 thread is failing (has https:// twice in the link)

OLD BOY 30-12-2024 18:35
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36188430)
I predict the BBC4 closure doesn't happen, and BBC3 might be for the chop again.
They've changed their minds before, but my feeling is that both channels will go. They simply don't have the funding to continue broadcasting BBC3 and BBC4 without cutting back expenditure elsewhere.

Media Boy UK 30-12-2024 19:16
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36188455)
They've changed their minds before, but my feeling is that both channels will go. They simply don't have the funding to continue broadcasting BBC3 and BBC4 without cutting back expenditure elsewhere.
If I was BBC GM I would.

-Remove hours on end of BBC News (outside BBC News at 1, 6 and 10) from BBC One
-Full up BBC News time with shows from BBC Two.
-Merge the shows that BBC One don't want with BBC Four and become the all new BBC Two.
-Merge BBC Red Button (Linear channel) with BBC Three to become full time channel called BBC Three.
-Rebrand S4C as BBC Cymru.
-Close CBeebies and CBBC.

I would also:

-Launch BBC Scottish Parliament channel using BBC Scotland Space.
-Move S4C to BBC A on Freeview using unuse space outside Scotland.

Mr K 30-12-2024 19:43
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36188455)
They've changed their minds before, but my feeling is that both channels will go. They simply don't have the funding to continue broadcasting BBC3 and BBC4 without cutting back expenditure elsewhere.
BBC4 is costing them diddly squat, but highly regarded. Little original content, but the BBC have an archive of quality content. BBC3 has few viewers: if aimed at the young it should have remained online.

If they want to cut back on costs, I'd stop doing rubbish like reality TV/ strictly / soaps / Mrs browns boys etc. Leave the crap to the commercial channels who need the viewing figures/advertisers Concentrate on quality drama and documentaries which is what they are good at.

vincerooney 31-12-2024 23:42
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
evening all. heres to 2025! im sure it'll be another interesting one on here...

OLD BOY 01-01-2025 09:47
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36188466)
BBC4 is costing them diddly squat, but highly regarded. Little original content, but the BBC have an archive of quality content. BBC3 has few viewers: if aimed at the young it should have remained online.

If they want to cut back on costs, I'd stop doing rubbish like reality TV/ strictly / soaps / Mrs browns boys etc. Leave the crap to the commercial channels who need the viewing figures/advertisers Concentrate on quality drama and documentaries which is what they are good at.
If you call £22 million diddly squat, OK….

Mr K 01-01-2025 10:38
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36188548)
If you call £22 million diddly squat, OK….
Which is 0.4% of the BBCs income....

RichardCoulter 01-01-2025 13:28
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36188548)
If you call £22 million diddly squat, OK….
They still make the very occasional new programme, I guess the rest must be for repeat fees.

Media Boy UK 02-01-2025 18:43
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Rumour - More Channel 4 digital Channels may get axe in 2025

https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/What-s-...t/true#M151966

TimeLord2018 02-01-2025 18:58
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
4seven is pretty pointless nowadays that could go.

I can't see them closing E4 after recent news about The Simpsons although possibility they lose both The Big Bang Theory and Young Sheldon on 30th December both the channel and On Demand unless they agree some new deal with WBD , both will be on Max in the UK.

Media Boy UK 03-01-2025 11:59
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
An brand new FAST Channel has started to test in Virgin Media HQ called Loves Pets.

Testing on Virgin UK (As of January 3rd):

FAST Channels;
*Hell's Kitchen - set to launch on Channel 233
*Sky Artist of the Year - set to launch on Channel 239
*Love Pets - set to launch on Channel 243
*Egg Heads - set to launch on Channel 253
*Sky Sports Stories - set to launch on Channel 558
*Sky Sports Classics - set to launch on Channel 559
*Sky Sports Vault - set to launch on Channel 560

Linear Channels;
*Cruise1st tv - set to launch on Channel 758

Still no launch date known.

https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com/

OLD BOY 03-01-2025 17:55
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36188612)
An brand new FAST Channel has started to test in Virgin Media HQ called Loves Pets.

Testing on Virgin UK (As of January 3rd):

FAST Channels;
*Hell's Kitchen - set to launch on Channel 233
*Sky Artist of the Year - set to launch on Channel 239
*Love Pets - set to launch on Channel 243
*Egg Heads - set to launch on Channel 253
*Sky Sports Stories - set to launch on Channel 558
*Sky Sports Classics - set to launch on Channel 559
*Sky Sports Vault - set to launch on Channel 560

Linear Channels;
*Cruise1st tv - set to launch on Channel 758

Still no launch date known.

https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com/
Good grief!

Mr K 03-01-2025 18:13
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
So far then, more cheap crap channels, and anything half decent at risk of being axed.

The dumbing down of our 'culture' continues...

OLD BOY 03-01-2025 19:20
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36188626)
So far then, more cheap crap channels, and anything half decent at risk of being axed.

The dumbing down of our 'culture' continues...
Except that we are not losing the content, Mr K. It’s just a change in the method of transmission.

Mr K 03-01-2025 20:01
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36188631)
Except that we are not losing the content, Mr K. It’s just a change in the method of transmission.
If we lose BBC and C4 channels, we are losing content. The fast channels are just repeating crap 24/7. It will lead to an increase in dementia for sure.

We still need new programmes to be made. What new programmes are the fast channels commissioning?

OLD BOY 03-01-2025 20:22
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36188637)
If we lose BBC and C4 channels, we are losing content. The fast channels are just repeating crap 24/7. It will lead to an increase in dementia for sure.

We still need new programmes to be made. What new programmes are the fast channels commissioning?
If the BBC and C4 channels disappear, the content no longer broadcast on terrestrial TV will be on their respective Players.

RichardCoulter 03-01-2025 22:09
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Industry speculation is that Channel 4 may well cease broadcasting the rest of its non-PSB channels during 2025 as part of its ongoing cost-cutting, and retain only the C4 service on satellite, Glass/Stream, Freesat and Freeview.
No mention of cable. Channel 4 is a 'must carry' channel as part of the cable franchises that Virgin have. However, if Channel 4 go IPTV, I don't believe that this applies.

TimeLord2018 03-01-2025 22:14
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
That doesn't say their closing Channel 4 anyway, it says their non PSB channels...not that I think it's going to happen this year.

vincerooney 05-01-2025 00:16
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
thought all of channel 4s channels were technically public broadcasters just like bbc 3 and 4 are?

RichardCoulter 05-01-2025 02:41
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36188708)
thought all of channel 4s channels were technically public broadcasters just like bbc 3 and 4 are?
It's publically owned, but is in a perilous financial situation.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36188655)
That doesn't say their closing Channel 4 anyway, it says their non PSB channels...not that I think it's going to happen this year.

I'm sure they won't close Channel 4 itself, but there was no mention of cable TV in the speculation by people in the industry. If Channel 4 continues to broadcast as is, Virgjn are obligated to continue carrying it at neutral cost.

If Channel 4 decides to cut costs by going streaming only, I don't believe that Virgin has an obligation to carry it and if they do they would be able to charge them for it.

vincerooney 05-01-2025 04:22
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36188709)
It's publically owned, but is in a perilous financial situation.

---------- Post added at 02:41 ---------- Previous post was at 02:36 ----------




I'm sure they won't close Channel 4 itself, but there was no mention of cable TV in the speculation by people in the industry. If Channel 4 continues to broadcast as is, Virgjn are obligated to continue carrying it at neutral cost.

If Channel 4 decides to cut costs by going streaming only, I don't believe that Virgin has an obligation to carry it and if they do they would be able to charge them for it.
how are channel 4, who get better ratings than channel 5, in a worse position than channel 5 financially?

Hugh 05-01-2025 08:16
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36188709)
It's publically owned, but is in a perilous financial situation.

---------- Post added at 02:41 ---------- Previous post was at 02:36 ----------




I'm sure they won't close Channel 4 itself, but there was no mention of cable TV in the speculation by people in the industry. If Channel 4 continues to broadcast as is, Virgjn are obligated to continue carrying it at neutral cost.

If Channel 4 decides to cut costs by going streaming only, I don't believe that Virgin has an obligation to carry it and if they do they would be able to charge them for it.
Not an accurate reflection of actuality.

https://www.channel4.com/press/news/...s-path-digital

Media Boy UK 05-01-2025 13:51
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
New Linear Channel Launch:

Virgin Media UK has today launch Cruise1st TV on Virgin UK Channel 758.

When I was watching an male host of Cruise1st TV did say that the launch on Virgin Media is part of the channel expanding plans for 2025.

*Launch on Freeview?
*Launch on Freesat?

RichardCoulter 05-01-2025 15:31
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36188715)
Not an accurate reflection of actuality.

https://www.channel4.com/press/news/...s-path-digital
That report from 2024 refers to 2023.

Since then reduced ad income has meant that Channel 4 have had to scrap or shelve programmes and close down some channels (with more to come). Other things such as selling off their London headquarters and culling nearly 20% of staff are/have been done in order to balance the books.

---------- Post added at 14:39 ---------- Previous post was at 14:33 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36188731)
New Linear Channel Launch:

Virgin Media UK has today launch Cruise1st TV on Virgin UK Channel 758.

When I was watching an male host of Cruise1st TV did say that the launch on Virgin Media is part of the channel expanding plans for 2025.

*Launch on Freeview?
*Launch on Freesat?
Thanks, i'll take a look at that. I intend to go on a cruise if adjustments to take account of my disabilities can be made.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36188712)
how are channel 4, who get better ratings than channel 5, in a worse position than channel 5 financially?
Channel 5 is owned by a large company and are able to produce and own their own programming whilst drawing content from their other channels throughout the world. A lot of their content is cheaper to make ie things like '100 favourite chocolate bars' or programmes based on music videos from MTV.

Channel 4, on the other hand, is required to produce programmes according to their remit. They are, at present, a publisher broadcaster that isn't allowed to make and profit from their content (though this may change) and they have to pay independent production companies to make their programmes. Compared to the owners of Channel 5, they are a relatively small organisation that doesn't benefit from the economies of scale of being a larger player.

vincerooney 05-01-2025 22:09
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36188736)
That report from 2024 refers to 2023.

Since then reduced ad income has meant that Channel 4 have had to scrap or shelve programmes and close down some channels (with more to come). Other things such as selling off their London headquarters and culling nearly 20% of staff are/have been done in order to balance the books.

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Thanks, i'll take a look at that. I intend to go on a cruise if adjustments to take account of my disabilities can be made.

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Channel 5 is owned by a large company and are able to produce and own their own programming whilst drawing content from their other channels throughout the world. A lot of their content is cheaper to make ie things like '100 favourite chocolate bars' or programmes based on music videos from MTV.

Channel 4, on the other hand, is required to produce programmes according to their remit. They are, at present, a publisher broadcaster that isn't allowed to make and profit from their content (though this may change) and they have to pay independent production companies to make their programmes. Compared to the owners of Channel 5, they are a relatively small organisation that doesn't benefit from the economies of scale of being a larger player.
cheers Richard. very helpful!

peanut 06-01-2025 15:48
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Probably a stupid question...Can you have virgin TV without their broadband? (With a V6 box).

Mr K 06-01-2025 17:45
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36188781)
Probably a stupid question...Can you have virgin TV without their broadband? (With a V6 box).
Don't think so. Think it used to be possible with the older Tivo boxes.

RichardCoulter 06-01-2025 18:01
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36188763)
cheers Richard. very helpful!
You're very welcome :)

Paul 06-01-2025 22:27
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36188781)
Probably a stupid question...Can you have virgin TV without their broadband? (With a V6 box).
Nope.

peanut 06-01-2025 23:11
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36188792)
Nope.
Well that answers my question then. Blast...

(Thanks & to Mr K).

RichardCoulter 07-01-2025 01:15
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
You could have all 3 services separately at one time.

Itshim 07-01-2025 17:10
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36188805)
You could have all 3 services separately at one time.
You had gas lighting at one time:angel:

RichardCoulter 08-01-2025 09:30
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36188854)
You had gas lighting at one time:angel:

I don't remember that, but I do know that at one time people did. I had a relative who had a gas fridge and you can even get gas tumble dryers as I considered buying one at one time. Isn't gas 4 times cheaper than electricity now? If electricity goes up any more I might get gas lighting and I don't think you'd need to put the heating on :D

Are you thinking of going on a cruise? Check out Channel 758, i've been watching their Virgin Media launch party (it was nice for them to welcome Virgin viewers, i've never known a channel do that before). They take you on a tour of the ship and even a look at some of the places where you will visit, it's more like a holiday programme than a shopping channel. I'm hoping to see one for the Northern Lights as that's on my bucket list before my time on Earth is at an end.

They have some good deals, for example there was a reasonably priced one at £2,999 and only £300 more for a balcony. For those on a budget, there was one at only £589 for 7 days to France & Spain (7 nights from 25 April 2026).

Media Boy UK 09-01-2025 01:59
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
..

Media Boy UK 09-01-2025 19:34
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Update

The Craft Store to relaunch only on Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/thecraftsto...07384914034753

Mr K 09-01-2025 20:01
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36189024)
Update

The Craft Store to relaunch only on Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/thecraftsto...07384914034753
So glad I'm not on FB ;)

TimeLord2018 10-01-2025 14:33
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36188424)
[B]

2025:
*Paramount Global to rebrand Channel 5 HD as 5 HD on Virgin Media UK^
*Paramount Global to rebrand Channel 5 +1 as 5 +1 on Virgin Media UK^

2026-2029:
*Warner Bros. Discovery Sport UK may rebrand Eurosport 1 HD UK as TNT Sports TBC HD (By Summer 2026)^^
*Warner Bros. Discovery Sport UK may rebrand Eurosport 2 HD UK as TNT Sports TBC HD (By Summer 2026)^^

^^ALL Changes dates not yet confirmed by broadcasters.

©Copyright 2025 Media Boy UK 2006 - 2025. A ''Doing it my way'' Production.
Rebrand to 5 Confirmed for March
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2025...ice-streaming/

Still none the wiser about what's happening to Eurosport UK from the beginning of 2026
https://media.wbdsports.com/post/sup...comes-to-max-a

Media Boy UK 10-01-2025 15:41
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36189081)
Rebrand to 5 Confirmed for March
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2025...ice-streaming/

Still none the wiser about what's happening to Eurosport UK from the beginning of 2026
https://media.wbdsports.com/post/sup...comes-to-max-a
Due to TNT Sports UK given up on some Sports Rights I think Eurosport UK will just be merge into TNT Sports UK with Eurosport 2 closing and Eurosport 1 being rename as TNT Sports Extra - like Sky Sports Extra, Viaplay Sports Xtra and Freesports.

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Info on post one was right at time of posting.

epsilon 10-01-2025 17:36
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36189024)
Update

The Craft Store to relaunch only on Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/thecraftsto...07384914034753
I guess if Piers Morgan can become a YouTuber and pretend to still have a TV show it is ok for crafters to set up a Facebook livestream and pretend it is a shopping channel... :D

Media Boy UK 11-01-2025 02:21
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Base on what I have seen on Company House the company's that appear on channels like Create & Craft and Hobby Maker makes next to nothing year on year.

Create & Craft (Was also called The Craft Store and also Hochanda) owner Hochanda Limited and Hochanda Global Limited only make money in the year 2018 but they did lose over £35m from 2015 to 2022 (No Full accounts has been revealed since January 1st 2023 until October 24th 2024)

Note to all The Craft Store that is set to launch on Facebook has nothing to do with Hochanda Limited or Hochanda Global Limited and will be owned by The Craft Store Limited that was set up on and listed on Company House on January 8th 2025.

epsilon 11-01-2025 05:23
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36189112)
Base on what I have seen on Company House the company's that appear on channels like Create & Craft and Hobby Maker makes next to nothing year on year.

Create & Craft (Was also called The Craft Store and also Hochanda) owner Hochanda Limited and Hochanda Global Limited only make money in the year 2018 but they did lose over £35m from 2015 to 2022 (No Full accounts has been revealed since January 1st 2023 until October 24th 2024)

Note to all The Craft Store that is set to launch on Facebook has nothing to do with Hochanda Limited or Hochanda Global Limited and will be owned by The Craft Store Limited that was set up on and listed on Company House on January 8th 2025.
Other than the director, who was also a director of Hochanda Limited. He was also a director of Hochanda Global until the original directors sold out as they wanted to retire. Relaunching a Craft Store seems like a strange retirement...

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In other news...
Overnight changes:
Pop-up channel Eurosport UHD has launched on channel 523 in readiness for coverage of the Australian Open.
Further details:
ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com

Media Boy UK 11-01-2025 15:32
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36189113)
Other than the director, who was also a director of Hochanda Limited. He was also a director of Hochanda Global until the original directors sold out as they wanted to retire. Relaunching a Craft Store seems like a strange retirement...
He did also buy the Hochanda Global studios.

The Craft Store on Facebook did say that he did own The Craft Store name.

I seen reports that they hope to also launch on Virgin Media via YouTube.

RichardCoulter 11-01-2025 16:47
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36189142)
He did also buy the Hochanda Global studios.

The Craft Store on Facebook did say that he did own The Craft Store name.

I seen reports that they hope to also launch on Virgin Media via YouTube.
Sounds strange. Anyone could start a channel on YouTube and then claim to be on Virgin because the YouTube app is on the platform :confused:

Media Boy UK 11-01-2025 16:51
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36189143)
Sounds strange. Anyone could start a channel on YouTube and then claim to be on Virgin because the YouTube app is on the platform :confused:
You can watch YouTube via your Virgin Media box (They did only say ''hope to also launch on YouTube'')

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The Craft Store Limited are set to reveal more on their Facebook page on Sunday. (I won't be watching).

epsilon 11-01-2025 20:11
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36189144)
You can watch YouTube via your Virgin Media box (They did only say ''hope to also launch on YouTube'')

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The Craft Store Limited are set to reveal more on their Facebook page on Sunday. (I won't be watching).
Nobody will...

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36189143)
Sounds strange. Anyone could start a channel on YouTube and then claim to be on Virgin because the YouTube app is on the platform :confused:
A selection of shows on YouTube for on-demand viewing may be the way to go, as long as they are refreshed regularly. I can't see live crafting shows on Facebook pulling in many viewers.

Paul 11-01-2025 22:21
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Who on earth cares about any of it. :sleep:

epsilon 11-01-2025 23:16
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36189164)
Who on earth cares about any of it. :sleep:
Good question. There isn't even much activity about it on the "crafttelly" forum. These businesses don't seem to be doing well in the current economic climate as Sara Davies of the Dragon's Den would probably agree.
https://bmmagazine.co.uk/news/dragon...e-pack-rescue/

Media Boy UK 12-01-2025 00:03
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Due to information we have seen from my Sources tonight (January 11th) I have make up my mind up to stop reporting any new news about Craft Store Ltd.

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I only started to report on Craft Store Ltd as no information was known on how Craft Store would broadcast on Wednesday Night.

But we now know Craft Store is set to launch on Facebook and maybe also YouTube.

Paul 12-01-2025 01:19
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Is this a competition to see how many times you can say "Craft Store" in one post. :erm:

Media Boy UK 12-01-2025 16:16
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36189144)
The Craft Store Limited are set to reveal more on their Facebook page on Sunday. (I won't be watching).
UPDATE:

The Craft Store will give an Q&A on their Facebook at 8pm on January 12th 2025.

https://www.facebook.com/thecraftstoreltd

Mr K 12-01-2025 16:30
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36189192)
UPDATE:

The Craft Store will give an Q&A on their Facebook at 8pm on January 12th 2025.

https://www.facebook.com/thecraftstoreltd
Damn. I'm washing my hair tonight.

epsilon 14-01-2025 02:23
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36189193)
Damn. I'm washing my hair tonight.
Hmmm! That would make a good Facebook Live...

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36189192)
UPDATE:

The Craft Store will give an Q&A on their Facebook at 8pm on January 12th 2025.

https://www.facebook.com/thecraftstoreltd
Meanwhile, we may never have to hear the name of Create & Craft again as it seems the name has been sold and the its website now redirects to, superstore owner, Hobbycraft.

Media Boy UK 14-01-2025 12:44
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36189301)
Hmmm! That would make a good Facebook Live...

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Meanwhile, we may never have to hear the name of Create & Craft again as it seems the name has been sold and the its website now redirects to, superstore owner, Hobbycraft.
*The Create & Craft web was sold in December to Hobbycraft
*The Create & Craft Facebook pages was sold to Paul Wright
*Paul Wright did own the Create & Craft studios

In other news London Live (on Channel 159 in London) will close at midnight on January 20th.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq5g2g1n4eqo

epsilon 14-01-2025 13:37
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36189320)
*The Create & Craft web was sold in December to Hobbycraft
*The Create & Craft Facebook pages was sold to Paul Wright
*Paul Wright did own the Create & Craft studios

In other news London Live (on Channel 159 in London) will close at midnight on January 20th.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq5g2g1n4eqo
Maybe Virgin should just pop up a slate right now and tell London viewers to watch True Crime. That's pretty much all they'll get when London TV takes over the channel.

Media Boy UK 14-01-2025 14:21
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36189323)
Maybe Virgin should just pop up a slate right now and tell London viewers to watch True Crime. That's pretty much all they'll get when London TV takes over the channel.
London Live has been took over by Local Television - reports say the new channel is launch at 6am on January 21st with a working name of ''London TV''.

But DS Forum is reporting that Virgin is just showing "to be announced" in the programme guide from Monday onward.*

*Information right as of 2am last night.

epsilon 14-01-2025 15:51
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36189328)
London Live has been took over by Local Television - reports say the new channel is launch at 6am on January 21st with a working name of ''London TV''.

But DS Forum is reporting that Virgin is just showing "to be announced" in the programme guide from Monday onward.*

*Information right as of 2am last night.
Yes, I did say "when London TV takes over the channel". It's probably more than just a "working name" that's the way they brand all of their channels.The pause of transmissions has also happened with previous local channel takeovers / acquisitions.

Media Boy UK 14-01-2025 16:23
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36189334)
Yes, I did say "when London TV takes over the channel". It's probably more than just a "working name" that's the way they brand all of their channels.The pause of transmissions has also happened with previous local channel takeovers / acquisitions.
I did not see that part - sorry.

RichardCoulter 14-01-2025 18:41
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36189323)
Maybe Virgin should just pop up a slate right now and tell London viewers to watch True Crime. That's pretty much all they'll get when London TV takes over the channel.
Yup hahaha :D

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Quote:
Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36189334)
Yes, I did say "when London TV takes over the channel". It's probably more than just a "working name" that's the way they brand all of their channels.The pause of transmissions has also happened with previous local channel takeovers / acquisitions.
Listings run up until 5:59, I wonder if they're saying midnight because they can't guarantee the programmes will be shown whilst they reconfigure the feeds?

Media Boy UK 14-01-2025 20:43
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36189360)
Yup hahaha :D

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Listings run up until 5:59, I wonder if they're saying midnight because they can't guarantee the programmes will be shown whilst they reconfigure the feeds?
London Live says on X that they will close at midnight.

RichardCoulter 14-01-2025 21:20
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36189369)
London Live says on X that they will close at midnight.
Yes they did, it remains to be seen what happens.

epsilon 15-01-2025 07:02
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36189360)
Listings run up until 5:59, I wonder if they're saying midnight because they can't guarantee the programmes will be shown whilst they reconfigure the feeds?
All of the local TV feeds go through COMUX NOC in Birmingham, so it shouldn't be too difficult.

OLD BOY 16-01-2025 18:42
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36189369)
London Live says on X that they will close at midnight.
Local TV has been an abject failure. Why does the government continue to use taxpayer's money in a futile effort to keep them afloat?

nodrogd 16-01-2025 20:06
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36189373)
Yes they did, it remains to be seen what happens.
Local TV Ltd, that currently runs the local channels in Birmingham, Bristol, Cardiff, Leeds, Liverpool, North Wales, Teesside, & Tyne/Wear was reported to be after the London licence. OFCOM would have to approve it, but I can’t see it not happening.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2025...se-after-sale/

Paul 16-01-2025 21:58
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36189446)
Local TV has been an abject failure. Why does the government continue to use taxpayer's money in a futile effort to keep them afloat?
Notts TV is not funded by the government, its owned by local media groups.
Its on Freeview, and was on Virgin & Sky, its no longer on Sky, not sure about Virgin.

vincerooney 17-01-2025 02:13
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36189446)
Local TV has been an abject failure. Why does the government continue to use taxpayer's money in a futile effort to keep them afloat?
it was such a weird decision. yes local tv is huge in the USA but that country is also bloody bigger than the UK

with youtube and social media why would anyone want to broadcast on local tv?

Media Boy UK 17-01-2025 11:21
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36189460)
Notts TV is not funded by the government, its owned by local media groups.
Its on Freeview, and was on Virgin & Sky, its no longer on Sky, not sure about Virgin.
Notts TV is listed on Channel List as being on Virgin Media.

Itshim 17-01-2025 14:22
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36189469)
it was such a weird decision. yes local tv is huge in the USA but that country is also bloody bigger than the UK

with youtube and social media why would anyone want to broadcast on local tv?
10 minutes a day of local stories was always going to fail :erm:

OLD BOY 17-01-2025 18:25
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36189491)
10 minutes a day of local stories was always going to fail :erm:
There’s more regional news on BBC and ITV than on the local channels. It’s a pretty poor record.

Inactive Digital 20-01-2025 14:24
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Has virgin stopped supplying the 360 box to new customers in HFC areas?
I can't see any reference to it here https://www.virginmedia.com/tv

The text about Watchlists seems to suggest only Stream boxes are being supplied to new customers now.

TimeLord2018 20-01-2025 16:18
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Yes by the looks of it

Looking closely at the checkout options It's a Virgin Stream box on all bundles, TV 360 is no longer available.

Mr K 20-01-2025 16:22
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36189640)
Yes by the looks of it

Looking closely at the checkout options It's a Virgin Stream box on all bundles, TV 360 is no longer available.
If it just a streaming box, what's the point? You can get that free elelsewhere. VM is making itself redundant.... Not the best business plan.

TimeLord2018 20-01-2025 16:26
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Sky will doing the same at some point, hard to even find Sky Q now , all thats advertised is Sky Stream

Tell that to Sky , Sky offer Netflix with ads , Discovery+ (which will be replaced with MAX with ads) and Sky Atlantic only via Sky Stream for £15 where the only selling point will be Sky Originals in 12 months.

Mr K 20-01-2025 16:32
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
The streaming future is all about advertisers not being happy about punters being able to ff through ads. With recordings you have total control.

Can see myself dusting down my old VHS recorder....

nodrogd 20-01-2025 16:36
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 36189634)
Has virgin stopped supplying the 360 box to new customers in HFC areas?
I can't see any reference to it here https://www.virginmedia.com/tv

The text about Watchlists seems to suggest only Stream boxes are being supplied to new customers now.
VM have stopped supplying the mini boxes for multiroom (unless you already have one). Additional boxes are all now Stream boxes.

It also looks like with all the confusion caused by TV offerings differing in legacy & full fibre areas, the references to specific boxes have been removed from the main website.

Dingbat 20-01-2025 16:45
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36189644)
Can see myself dusting down my old VHS recorder....
Good luck with getting that to work!

Itshim 20-01-2025 16:59
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36189648)
Good luck with getting that to work!
Mine works fine :D

Paul 20-01-2025 17:37
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
I think you can get more modern recorders than VHS.

I dont know if they can record any input, they generally state Freeview.

Itshim 20-01-2025 18:49
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36189661)
I think you can get more modern recorders than VHS.

I dont know if they can record any input, they generally state Freeview.
Can't be bothered to get old rugby tapes copied, not sure it would even be legal, in fact I doubt it is.

vincerooney 20-01-2025 18:51
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 36189646)
VM have stopped supplying the mini boxes for multiroom (unless you already have one). Additional boxes are all now Stream boxes.

It also looks like with all the confusion caused by TV offerings differing in legacy & full fibre areas, the references to specific boxes have been removed from the main website.
happy i got to keep my 3 v6 boxes and just updated them to 360 software

Itshim 20-01-2025 18:53
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36189679)
happy i got to keep my 3 v6 boxes and just updated them to 360 software
Have no need smart sets do the job for me.

RichardCoulter 21-01-2025 17:16
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Seen a report that the replacement local channel for London has reverted to 4:3 on satellite!! Is this the same on Virgin (for anyone who can get it)?

ozsat 21-01-2025 17:28
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
It is 16:9 on satellite - a lot of True programmes are 4:3

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36189744)
Seen a report that the replacement local channel for London has reverted to 4:3 on satellite!! Is this the same on Virgin (for anyone who can get it)?

TimeLord2018 28-01-2025 00:08
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Eurosport 1 and 2 to close on 28th February
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broad...201168.article

1701-e 28-01-2025 10:18
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36190157)
Eurosport 1 and 2 to close on 28th February
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broad...201168.article
So will TNT put all their sports behind the higher pay wall? Or will there be two levels as at present for those wanting cycling and snooker etc

WBD will probably go for the former meaning many lose out.

TimeLord2018 28-01-2025 10:20
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Are no longer able to subscribe to Discovery+ standard from today

Whether they occasionally offer select content for free on Discovery+ and it's replacement MAX is anyone guess.

They made the Olympics last year available for free on Max basic and Standard tiers in Europe so I wouldn't rule out that happening here with Winter Olympics.

RichardCoulter 28-01-2025 14:53
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36190169)
So will TNT put all their sports behind the higher pay wall? Or will there be two levels as at present for those wanting cycling and snooker etc

WBD will probably go for the former meaning many lose out.
AIUI the Eurosport channels will close and the content will move to TNT Sports, meaning that those in the basic channel packages will lose access unless they begin to take TNT Sports.

Maybe this is why Virgin removed it from being added at no extra cost from the top basic packages?

alwaysabear 28-01-2025 16:31
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36190157)
Eurosport 1 and 2 to close on 28th February
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broad...201168.article
Does this mean the number of TNT sport channels will increase from 4 to 6?

TimeLord2018 28-01-2025 16:42
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
No, just the 4 TNT Sports channels.
https://support.discoveryplus.com/gb...tail/000004103

Mobes 28-01-2025 20:41
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36190157)
Eurosport 1 and 2 to close on 28th February
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broad...201168.article
Haven't posted here in a good while but alway keep an eye on the forum.

I don't know why but this genuinley makes me sad lol. End of an era.

As a tennis nut, I could never get Sky due to a bloody great tree in my back garden so when the then NTL started cableing my road I was bloomin well overjoyed I could start watching tennis which was then pretty much exclusivly on British Eurosport.

I shall subscribe to TNT to get cotinued coverage of Australian and French Open tennis if needed but as i aready have TNT I presume i won't pay anything more?!

Also, does this mean TNT stays or goes from Virgin TV Go?


Goodbye Eurosport my old friend. You will be missed. :mis:

RichardCoulter 28-01-2025 21:44
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
The biggest winner from today is probably EE - £29pm for Discovery+ Premium and an unlimited data sim is comfortably the best value on offer for people who really want to keep watching their minority sports.

1701-e 29-01-2025 10:26
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
So with the loss of two sports channels from the top tier will we get something else instead or a price reduction? Lol

TimeLord2018 29-01-2025 12:14
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36190188)
AIUI the Eurosport channels will close and the content will move to TNT Sports, meaning that those in the basic channel packages will lose access unless they begin to take TNT Sports.

Maybe this is why Virgin removed it from being added at no extra cost from the top basic packages?
It seems , EE , Sky & Virgin were aware this was going to happen since the beginning
https://www.sportcal.com/media/no-mo...rged-with-tnt/

denphone 29-01-2025 12:39
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
First they get rid of the TCM channel from British TV screens and now the two Eurosport channels are going.:(

Media Boy UK 29-01-2025 14:00
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
VEVO has close on Virgin Channel 291 ahead of it full axing on January 31st on all other networks.

Itshim 29-01-2025 14:33
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36190258)
First they get rid of the TCM channel from British TV screens and now the two Eurosport channels are going.:(
Welcome to what happens if everyone pushes the price they pay down, I include myself in doing this:(

daveeb 29-01-2025 14:50
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36190266)
Welcome to what happens if everyone pushes the price they pay down, I include myself in doing this:(
I suspect most people either don't bother, don't fancy doing it or don't know it's negotiable.

RichardCoulter 29-01-2025 14:51
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36190266)
Welcome to what happens if everyone pushes the price they pay down, I include myself in doing this:(
No, it's what happens when takeovers and mergers occur and a single company ends up dominating the market.

This will actually save Virgin money as they will no longer have to pay carriage fees for Eurosport. With TNT Sports, as a standalone channel, costs are met by subscribers.

Itshim 29-01-2025 17:27
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36190271)
No, it's what happens when takeovers and mergers occur and a single company ends up dominating the market.

This will actually save Virgin money as they will no longer have to pay carriage fees for Eurosport. With TNT Sports, as a standalone channel, costs are met by subscribers.
Company cutting costs, because income is less , that's a surprise . Sorry I forgot you believe that companies have money trees in their car parks


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