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thenry 19-12-2024 12:43

Three-Vodafone Merger
 
Quote:

The UK competition regulator has approved the £16.5bn merger of Vodafone’s domestic business with CK Hutchison’s Three UK, which is expected to create Britain’s largest mobile operator.

https://www.ft.com/content/8e6f874b-...8-fa7130bd3629
I'm excited to see improvements in network coverage

Chris 19-12-2024 14:30

Re: Three-Vodafone Merger
 
Don’t hold your breath. When Orange and T Mobile merged, it was brilliant for about 18 months until they started rationalising the network and switching off towers they claimed were duplicating coverage. By the time they were finished it was a bit better in some of the places it hadn’t really reached before, but nowhere near as good as it was on day 1.

thenry 19-12-2024 15:34

Re: Three-Vodafone Merger
 
Oh great. I was thinking something like double capacity (VM cable upgrades alike) but for coverage. I get a drop off on Three during the weekends currently but when unutilised during the week I get 500meg download easy.

thenry 01-02-2025 15:29

Re: Three-Vodafone Merger
 
Quote:

Vodafone's Three takeover progress in focus after recent disposals
Published: 14:14 30 Jan 2025 GMT
Written by: Josh Lam


Vodafone Group PLC’s third quarter update next Tuesday, February 4 follows disposals as the telecommunications firm readies for its £15 billion merger with Three.

Having received the greenlight for the takeover by the Competition and Markets Authority in December, Vodafone has since completed disposals of its Italian wing and stake in Indus Towers.

Proceeds of the respective £6.6 billion and £269 million sales were said to have gone on the likes of reducing debt and boosting shareholder returns.

Attention in the forthcoming update is set to be on progress of the Three tie-up as a result, which the CMA said was conditional on commitments to invest £11 billion on 5G ahead.

The deal has been expected to complete in the first half of this year, before paving way for efficiency savings in excess of £7 billion over the coming years.

Shares are little changed from a year ago, though have dropped over 6% in the past six months.

https://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk...s-1065389.html
An 11 billion investment with 7 billion in cost cutting. Don't be tight just expand the network!

Paul 01-02-2025 17:02

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In increase in 5G coverage would be nice.

thenry 20-02-2025 18:11

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Quote:

Vodafone and Three UK Confirm New Leadership Team for Merger

Darren Purkis, CFO
Kelly Barlow, Strategy and Portfolio
Clare Corkish, HR
Andrea Dona, Networks
Nick Gliddon, Business
Stephen Lerner, Regulatory, Government Affairs & Company Secretary
Nicki Lyons, Corporate Affairs & Sustainability
Stephen Reidy, IT
Jon Shaw, Consumer Operations
Rob Winterschladen, Consumer
Andy Yorston, Legal, Security, Compliance & Risk

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...or-merger.html
Andrea Dona, all eyes on you :spin:

Dude111 20-02-2025 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris
Don’t hold your breath. When Orange and T Mobile merged, it was brilliant for about 18 months until they started rationalising the network and switching off towers.

Yup I was just thinking that!!

It will probably get worse....... When XM Merged with Sirius they destroyed XM... I thought XM was much better!

toonlight 13-04-2025 20:30

Re: Three-Vodafone Merger
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36190475)
In increase in 5G coverage would be nice.


In your dreams, not to sound too nasty but 5G had been called 'an expensive experiment' by the people in the know... china claims it has 5g all the time:td: Nope not true they switch it off, the transmitters that is... dropping it back 4g progress? Not really why? Power usage as 4g is much cheaper to operate.

So you can only hope that it gets better it isn't going to make much difference as they need more sites + power than 4g needs... hence the snail pace roll out > $$$ more operation costs. You should be looking at 6g which they should have gone to skipping 5g. As 6g it's not that far off an old 4g site with less base stations needed. (5G)

Think it as ethernet cable cat 5 worked.. just but then cat 5e > 1 gig not long after more than doubling speeds... yet even sooner you had cat 6.... it worked just no difference to cat 5e Then you had cat6a.... months after cat 8 .... lets just skip cat 7.

Which would you put your money into investment wise? ;)

thenry 15-04-2025 13:45

Re: Three-Vodafone Merger
 
Quote:

The Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) has decided Vodafone’s merger with Three should be allowed to proceed if both companies sign binding commitments to invest billions to roll out a combined 5G network across the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/c...ng-commitments

toonlight 18-04-2025 14:02

Re: Three-Vodafone Merger
 
Quote:
The Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) has decided Vodafone’s merger with Three should be allowed to proceed if both companies sign binding commitments to invest billions to roll out a combined 5G network across the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/c...ng-commitments



Well if that's the case the information I posted is more current as in the last few months of print as they studied many countries roll out of the same cancer causing/issues network... as for china is public information. They're flushing money down the drain only for it lead to spending more when there years behind with their rushed roll out of 6G which is already here in other places that put their money where their mouth was.... Oh yes rolling it out.

All 5g is.... GCHQ/NSA/etc devices in your own home instead of the network back bone lines.... hence the over due speed increase that the older devices caused aka latency. The UK power grind has had this tech since the late 1990s able to turn of a single home power from remote, made much easy with a GCHQ/etc special 'smart meter' talking to your electronic goods, able to shut them off when it suits them.

Chris 18-04-2025 14:05

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Please put the bong down.

toonlight 18-04-2025 14:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36194876)
Please put the bong down.

All the information has been printed/used in court cases/evidence plus given out by government.... prove it wrong.

Bongs are for ornaments not for playing with my dear....:shocked: As they say; Suck on it to see if it works.... I haven't. ;)

Chris 18-04-2025 14:24

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No, you prove it right. Conspiracy theories aren’t true by default.

toonlight 18-04-2025 14:39

Re: Three-Vodafone Merger
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36194880)
No, you prove it right. Conspiracy theories aren’t true by default.


You see your type always fall for it ... if it ain't given to them on a platter aka agenda it isn't true/right. I am right or not~? :dozey:

Lets put it this way..... I'd put good money on it & I'm not a betting person. Why do near all 'Conspiracy theories' come true & get finally admitted by the PTB's when it suits them? Ask yourself... :confused:Keep on drinking the government cool aid.... It will charm your nerves of the real world.

Hugh 18-04-2025 15:13

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Who to believe?

Some rando on the Interwebs, or my good friend of over 30 years, who is a leading authority on 5G technologies, ex-Lead Architect in Telecomms at the BBC, part-time SpAd on 5G at the DSIT, member of the UK5G Creative Industries Working Group, frequently speaks at International Conferences on 5G capabilities and futures, and has his own Telecomms & 5G consultancy where he advises Companies throughout the World on best practices and implementation.

Chris 18-04-2025 16:26

Re: Three-Vodafone Merger
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36194882)
Who to believe?

Some rando on the Interwebs, or my good friend of over 30 years, who is a leading authority on 5G technologies, ex-Lead Architect in Telecomms at the BBC, part-time SpAd on 5G at the DSIT, member of the UK5G Creative Industries Working Group, frequently speaks at International Conferences on 5G capabilities and futures, and has his own Telecomms & 5G consultancy where he advises Companies throughout the World on best practices and implementation.

hE’s oBvIoUsLy In On It

toonlight 18-04-2025 17:20

Re: Three-Vodafone Merger
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36194882)
Who to believe?

Some rando on the Interwebs, or my good friend of over 30 years, who is a leading authority on 5G technologies, ex-Lead Architect in Telecomms at the BBC, part-time SpAd on 5G at the DSIT, member of the UK5G Creative Industries Working Group, frequently speaks at International Conferences on 5G capabilities and futures, and has his own Telecomms & 5G consultancy where he advises Companies throughout the World on best practices and implementation.

Hello & hugh...... wouldn't his view on the industry be a more than bias at his own personal enrichment in the present + years to come? Yes certain types can smell the gravy train of government money & discounts from far off..... Own stock & shares in large equipment supplier corporations etc it raises a fair amount of red flags to say the least. Thinks Nancy + Paul Pelosi for a good example.
#A off the cuff thought >
I noted he worked for the BBC, nothing toward him but I hope he wasn't around youthful aged members of the public... or had 1 on 1 time... The BBC is full of fiddlers. Lead Architect or not

#A side note:
As a 'consultant/running a 'consultancy' that mean promotion of a item of a selling point/idea maybe a fully paid up member of the PRC given where a good amount of equipment/parts comes from even after the government halt. You used the words 'advises Companies' The same methods that pushed all the bulls*t H+S in the work place right.... that shutters work places for nothing. Or drug companies pushing a over priced drug/family of drugs from people with over inflated egos looking for the next power trip... same people yes? All under the very same Uk civil servants with dirty hands?

Where have heard that used before....

Compare & contrast.... Different issue same civil servants.

Just like the covid jab companies that hid behind the government matra.....
Tried to say you have get it to, it's safe..... there no danger in taking it x1 x2 x3 x4..... sudden death. But wait why are they getting pulled all ways with being found to hide internal studies/public trails showing differently - not safe at all, not to mention the firm post mortem results of the latter aka primary cause.
Then you have people suffering from it still living, how are you going to say now to what has been proven hand over fist that all these 'Conspiracy theories' was more than right.

Care to compare?

Hugh 18-04-2025 17:57

Re: Three-Vodafone Merger
 
That’s an interesting mish-mash of conspiracy theories, smears (generally and in particular against a very good personal friend of mine), leavened with a gish-gallop of casuistry and semi-literate and illogical statements.

It’s fairly obvious that your affinity for delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol has not diminished in the time you’ve been away.

Chris 18-04-2025 17:59

Re: Three-Vodafone Merger
 
And this is why you don’t argue with conspiracy nuts. The refutation just becomes evidence of the conspiracy. There is no reasoned, researched, considered argument here. Just move on.

toonlight 18-04-2025 22:16

Re: Three-Vodafone Merger
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36194885)
That’s an interesting mish-mash of conspiracy theories, smears (generally and in particular against a very good personal friend of mine), leavened with a gish-gallop of casuistry and semi-literate and illogical statements.

It’s fairly obvious that your affinity for delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol has not diminished in the time you’ve been away.


skanht hugh for that wonderful roster of invaluable thoughts :D.......Nothing like a good flame thread to warm thee cockles up on cold day :)

'mish-mash of conspiracy theories' Which all have come true & been proven in kind plus confirmed.... I don't need prove anything the words speak for themselves dear boy...

'gish-gallop' Now isn't that a big logical word for your mind? Take you long to think it up? ;) Now take your time with you reply ok I'd wouldn't want you to break out in full blown stroke from thought you've been lied too this long. :o:

'casuistry' Now now that must of made you break out into a deep sweaty mess :cool:

'semi-literate ' Really... what makes you think your worth my time to check all the x's & z's just for you? You think too hard :erm: That's dangerous :shocked:

'smears (generally and in particular against a very good personal friend of mine.' Well it's nothing personal against him but a proven point of worry anything to do with the BBC in general do need to remind anybody about the court cases with the past known + yet to be reviled deviants. That with woke-ism makes it a toxic place to nurture anyone in.

'delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol' Well well Haven't you been using your mince pies for a meaningless word. I don't smoke take drugs the street or legal ones so you reaching at things at this point... A classic reaction when someone has little else to work with & gets defensive. You haven't much deganhc either... lead by your nose than your eyes.

Dam! I run out of things to write about.....

>>> Drop me a message any time you like hugh... not forgetting chris:dmonk:

thenry 02-06-2025 11:43

Re: Three-Vodafone Merger
 
Quote:

The huge £16bn+ merger between mobile network operators Vodafone and Three UK (CK Hutchison) officially completed today, which will change the competitive dynamic of the UK market. The deal is also expected to help improve the national coverage of the latest 5G Standalone (mobile broadband) technologies, but concerns remain over jobs and consumer pricing.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...le-merger.html
Quote:

Vodafone vows to invest more than £1bn in a year as it seals Three UK merger

https://www.theguardian.com/business...mobile-tariffs
Hmm.. I can only dream of a better service :)

thenry 29-07-2025 14:30

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I just received this link in an email

https://www.three.co.uk/why-three/best-ever-network

Quote:

Throughout 2025 we’ll be upgrading our 4G network by enabling Three customers to access new Spectrum available from our merger with Vodafone. Particular quality improvements vary by location, but at least 7 million Three customers should experience an improvement.

Actual speeds may vary and depend on a number of factors including distance from mast, local geography, position of buildings and device used.
So this is a clever way of saying Vodafone masts will be used by Three customers.

SnoopZ 29-07-2025 16:38

Re: Three-Vodafone Merger
 
It still doesn't help me, vodafone is virtually none existant in my village so I will have to make do with ID(Three) until my contract runs out which is very poor too, so if VM goes down I still have virtually no internet speed unless I climb the roof of my house! Then I'll use a cheap EE network and hope the 4G is better.


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