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Corey N Georgie 15-08-2024 17:46

Hard Disk Usage
 
My new case doesnt have a Hard disk light on it to see disk activity.

Is there any software available to view disk activity say in the system tray for example?

Thanks.

Taf 15-08-2024 18:35

Re: Hard Disk Usage
 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/activityindicat/

Jaymoss 15-08-2024 19:13

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Just use task manager built into windows shows all your disks

Stephen 15-08-2024 19:20

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Is there any reason you would need to see disk activity? Not sure any cases have had that recently especially as it's all SSD now and not spinning disc drives.

peanut 15-08-2024 19:45

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He'll be asking if you can add a 3.5" diskette/floppy drive next. lol.

Jaymoss 15-08-2024 19:56

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36181434)
He'll be asking if you can add a 3.5" diskette/floppy drive next. lol.

You can get USB Floppy drives

Paul 15-08-2024 23:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36181430)
Is there any reason you would need to see disk activity? Not sure any cases have had that recently especially as it's all SSD now and not spinning disc drives.

Who says its all SSD ? If you want large capacity storage drives, at a reasonable price, HDDs are still cheaper. SSD are more useful for system drives.

Jaymoss 15-08-2024 23:11

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36181448)
Who says its all SSD ? If you want large capacity storage drives, at a reasonable price, HDDs are still cheaper. SSD are more useful for system drives.

I scrapped all my mechanical drives due to noise. I could hear then ( had 5x4TB) and they wound me up now had 3x 4TB M.2 and 3 x 4 TB sata ssds

Paul 15-08-2024 23:14

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:shrug:
I have a 6TB, and a 13TB.
The PC fan makes more noise than they do.

Stephen 15-08-2024 23:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36181448)
Who says its all SSD ? If you want large capacity storage drives, at a reasonable price, HDDs are still cheaper. SSD are more useful for system drives.

Not many people use mechanical drives on a daily use system anymore. They are slow and noisy. Yes they are still fine for NAS or backup storage etc. But for daily use like gaming or just general booting windows etc SSD, whether it's NVME M.2 or normal sata SSD drives offer decent capacity now for most things.

Mechanical is too slow for any kind of normal use.

Jaymoss 15-08-2024 23:40

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36181451)
:shrug:
I have a 6TB, and a 13TB.
The PC fan makes more noise than they do.

Change ya fan curve haha

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36181452)
Not many people use mechanical drives on a daily use system anymore. They are slow and noisy. Yes they are still fine for NAS or backup storage etc. But for daily use like gaming or just general booting windows etc SSD, whether it's NVME M.2 or normal sata SSD drives offer decent capacity now for most things.

Mechanical is too slow for any kind of normal use.

Hi capacity storage mech is still king and they tend to warn you pre fail where as SSDs just die

Corey N Georgie 18-08-2024 09:30

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36181426)

Just what i need. Thanks.

Stephen 18-08-2024 09:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey N Georgie (Post 36181551)
Just what i need. Thanks.

Why is it you need to see disk access etc?

Not something I ever think about.

Corey N Georgie 18-08-2024 15:13

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I like to see if the disk is in use from time to time if system stops responding.

Jaymoss 18-08-2024 18:27

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Originally Posted by Corey N Georgie (Post 36181556)
I like to see if the disk is in use from time to time if system stops responding.

Task Manager not only shows you if the disk is being accessed it also shows you what is hogging processes and allows you to end the task of anything being naughty. You do not need a 3rd party piece of software

I think for some reason maybe my lower post count or time here but my responses to Tech based questions seem to just get ignored on this forum but I really really know what I am talking about

Stephen 18-08-2024 18:32

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36181564)
Task Manager not only shows you if the disk is being accessed it also shows you what is hogging processes and allows you to end the task of anything being naughty. You do not need a 3rd party piece of software

I think for some reason maybe my lower post count or time here but my responses to Tech based questions seem to just get ignored on this forum but I really really know what I am talking about

You ain't being ignored bud. Your advice is sound. Task manager does everything you could need for managing tasks etc.

GrimUpNorth 18-08-2024 20:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36181564)
Task Manager not only shows you if the disk is being accessed it also shows you what is hogging processes and allows you to end the task of anything being naughty. You do not need a 3rd party piece of software

I think for some reason maybe my lower post count or time here but my responses to Tech based questions seem to just get ignored on this forum but I really really know what I am talking about

Must admit, if my system stops responding, I find a reboot is usually the best way to sort it in the first instance. I'd only dig deeper if the problem returned and then I'd be delving in to the built in Windows tools to find the issue. But each to their own I suppose.

Jaymoss 18-08-2024 20:38

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36181568)
Must admit, if my system stops responding, I find a reboot is usually the best way to sort it in the first instance. I'd only dig deeper if the problem returned and then I'd be delving in to the built in Windows tools to find the issue. But each to their own I suppose.

The original question was to check disk activity and the op chose for a 3rd party piece of software when Task Manager shows it . That was my point

Dude111 18-08-2024 22:20

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Originally Posted by Corey N Georgie
My new case doesnt have a Hard disk light on it to see disk activity.

Is there any software available to view disk activity say in the system tray for example?

Thanks.

I have DISKMON and it monitors all my C drive activity.....

It says it works on ALL OS's (This is before sysinternals was taken over and all that EULA stuff was added)

See if it works for you buddy

http://web.archive.org/web/20051104084419/http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Diskmon.html (Click the Win2000 and higher zip file)


I hope it works :)

Stephen 18-08-2024 22:36

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36181572)
I have DISKMON and it monitors all my C drive activity.....

It says it works on ALL OS's (This is before sysinternals was taken over and all that EULA stuff was added)

See if it works for you buddy

http://web.archive.org/web/200511040...s/Diskmon.html (Click the Win2000 and higher zip file)


I hope it works :)

EULAs have always been around. It's the end user licence agreement.

As has been mentioned though, no real need to use 3rd party software, windows has its own software to monitor it and many other bits of hardware now.

With SSDs functioning differently to old HDDs checking for read/write isn't really needed.

Corey N Georgie 19-08-2024 10:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36181564)
Task Manager not only shows you if the disk is being accessed it also shows you what is hogging processes and allows you to end the task of anything being naughty. You do not need a 3rd party piece of software

I think for some reason maybe my lower post count or time here but my responses to Tech based questions seem to just get ignored on this forum but I really really know what I am talking about

But u have to press alt. ctrl, and del each time u want to view it, i want something that's a little easier to view.

We all have different views on software and what we want, why not just accept some people want different things than u?

Jaymoss 19-08-2024 12:18

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Originally Posted by Corey N Georgie (Post 36181591)
But u have to press alt. ctrl, and del each time u want to view it, i want something that's a little easier to view.

We all have different views on software and what we want, why not just accept some people want different things than u?

You most certainly do not. You right click the taskbar and select it or press CTRL Shift and ESC or if you want something more permanent right click on the desktop select new (or more options if on new windows 11 menu) short cut and enter taskmgr.exe you then have a shortcut you can pin anywhere

I accept other people want different things than me but I know what I am doing

peanut 19-08-2024 13:15

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Each to their own though. Even with quite a high end PC I can't have anything running in the background that's not needed, no widgets or anything. I don't install anything to run at start up apart from the absolute essentials. CPU idles at around 1-2% if not then I know something ain't right. Old habits are hard to break.

Dude111 20-08-2024 19:32

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Originally Posted by Corey N Georgie
But u have to press alt. ctrl, and del each time u want to view it, i want something that's a little easier to view.

Yes Corey which is why I offered you DISKMON.... It sounds like it does exactly what you want and its very useful!

Corey N Georgie 21-08-2024 07:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36181682)
Yes Corey which is why I offered you DISKMON.... It sounds like it does exactly what you want and its very useful!

Yes and im gonna give it a shot.

Thanks.

Stephen 21-08-2024 09:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey N Georgie (Post 36181701)
Yes and im gonna give it a shot.

Thanks.

If it still runs on modern windows. Dude is famous for living in the past still running an ancient PC with a very very outdated version of windows.

Paul 21-08-2024 15:04

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36181703)
If it still runs on modern windows. Dude is famous for living in the past still running an ancient PC with a very very outdated version of windows.

It should - Diskmon is maintained by Sysinternals, which is now actually Winternals, part of Micro$oft.

Dude111 22-08-2024 05:43

Yes and its incredible all it shows.... Have ya ever tried it Paul??

Jaymoss 22-08-2024 09:05

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36181758)
Yes and its incredible all it shows.... Have ya ever tried it Paul??

You would not have seen the latest version of Task Manager and what that shows would you ?

Stephen 22-08-2024 09:19

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36181758)
Yes and its incredible all it shows.... Have ya ever tried it Paul??

It's built in to windows now. Task Manager now show all you could possibly need to know.

Dude111 23-08-2024 01:17

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Ah yes the performance tab...

I take it there is more on it now :)

Stephen 23-08-2024 01:25

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So much more and much better looking too.

Dude111 23-08-2024 02:22

I dont wanna sound ignorant Steve but what is paged and non paged memory??

See in my picture it said 636 paged right then.. Does that mean actual ram that was in use at that time??

EDIT:

Now it says 2552 paged

Jaymoss 23-08-2024 09:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36181833)
I dont wanna sound ignorant Steve but what is paged and non paged memory??

See in my picture it said 636 paged right then.. Does that mean actual ram that was in use at that time??

EDIT:

Now it says 2552 paged

When your ram gets saturated some of the load is offset to hard drive space. Obviously this is very slow in comparison. None paged will always use real ram paged can use virtual memory if needed

Dude111 28-08-2024 02:11

Thank you Jay,

I can assume Im using Paged Memory ALOT seeing as I only have 56.8 Megs of physical ram........

Right now it says 5704 Paged and 24336 Nonpaged..

If I was using my swap file right now wouldnt the paged amount be alot higher??

Riight now my swap ffile is only 44 Megs. (Sometimes its well over 100)

Its all fascinating...........


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