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Corey N Georgie 04-08-2024 19:30

New PC Temps
 
I've got my new pc which has a Ryzen 7900x3d processor.

Idling the temps are around 62*c and gaming I've seen it hit 92*c.

I'm using an AIO with a 280mm radiator which should do the job, the system is happy even at those temps.

Paul 04-08-2024 19:34

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The max operating temperature is apparently 89C.

https://www.syntech.co.za/product/am...-4ghz-am5-cpu/

peanut 04-08-2024 19:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey N Georgie (Post 36180524)
I've got my new pc which has a Ryzen 7900x3d processor.

Idling the temps are around 62*c and gaming I've seen it hit 92*c.

I'm using an AIO with a 280mm radiator which should do the job, the system is happy even at those temps.

My 7950X idle temps are 45-52c depending on temp of the room. Always a bit higher in the summer obviously.

The limit I've hit was around 82c.

I don't take a lot of notice of the temps, so not sure what's good and what's bad.

When gaming I have now got into the habit of setting the fan/cooling (iCue) profile to max. Same with the GPU fans.

Jaymoss 04-08-2024 19:56

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Idle temp is way to high and needs investigating I think. I would check the cooler. Is it offset? a lot of coolers for Ryzen go offset as it hits the die better

Gaming will hit the GPU harder than the CPU. To test the CPU you need to run something like Cinebench I am guessing it would thermal throttle

Stephen 05-08-2024 00:29

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I'm sure when the Ryzen 7000 series launched it was found that they will run hotter and 90+ was fairly common when under full load. I have a 7700 with a Be Quiet! AIO. Can't say I have checked my temps but when gaming with newer games the fans do ramp up. AIO always at 100% but case fans and GPU are set to fan curves optimised by the Armoury Crate software.

After searching, the 7900x3D has a max temp of 89°C and the 7900x is 95°C. Seems the x3D chips have a lower max temp. Is your cooler seated correctly and enough thermal paste applied?

Taf 05-08-2024 09:57

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Our daughter's new PC had a heatsink that all her friends considered far too small for the processor. So she opted for a better one, but still gets rather high CPU temps. She had to stop gaming the other day as her room hit 38c with the doors and windows wide open.

Stephen 05-08-2024 10:18

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I mean that's partly a good thing as the PC is expelling all the heat. It's good in winter though for keeping the room warm. Newer hardware does run hotter as it is more powerful.

Taf 05-08-2024 11:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36180577)
I mean that's partly a good thing as the PC is expelling all the heat. It's good in winter though for keeping the room warm. Newer hardware does run hotter as it is more powerful.

The heating in her room rarely switches on during the colder months. But what that saves in gas is turned into a higher electricity bill. The lad's much smaller B̷o̷x̷ ̷R̷o̷o̷m̷ third bedroom is like an oven all year round.

peanut 05-08-2024 11:35

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I must admit I do game less in the summer due to the heat. Sometimes I run them at a lower res so it doesn't generate as much heat. In the winter I do notice it a lot more, play Cyberpunk for a couple of hours and the room is toasty. The heat they now generate is a bit of problem.

Jaymoss 05-08-2024 16:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36180587)
The heating in her room rarely switches on during the colder months. But what that saves in gas is turned into a higher electricity bill. The lad's much smaller B̷o̷x̷ ̷R̷o̷o̷m̷ third bedroom is like an oven all year round.

I have a relatively high end PC and when it is running under high load gaming it still only uses 450 watts from the plug. Factor in another 50 or 60 watts for the screen you are still only slightly over 500 watts which at current rates is what 12p per hour ( Octopus rate ) Normal computing it is only pulling around 60 watts from the plug plus the screens

I would bet the OPs system though will throttle quite considerably under full CPU only load. I think there is something wrong with the cooling. Either not enough air drawn into the case or poor mount or poor thermal paste spread or I would not be surprised if it is not an offset mount and really should be for that CPU

idi banashapan 05-08-2024 20:01

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check the heatsink and it's position. with those temps, I'd be tempted to get the heatsink off and check the peel-off plastic sheet isn't still covering the base plate of it.

Corey N Georgie 06-08-2024 12:09

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Benchmarking temps hit 92*c max and system is stable so I'm happy.

As long as system is stable I'm happy.

Stephen 06-08-2024 12:11

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Was it a prebiilt one or did you buy parts and put it together?

Temps should by a little lower than that.

Corey N Georgie 06-08-2024 13:19

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I bought the parts and had it built for me.

Stephen 06-08-2024 14:04

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I've had my system on all morning running benchmarks and Hogwarts Legacy and haven't been able to get my CPU temp above 73°C, so there may well be something wrong with the AIO or how it's been seated. Perhaps the plastic that's usually underneath the heasink was not removed.

My idling temp sits around 30°C, so 60 idle temp is really high.

Dude111 06-08-2024 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey N Georgie
I've got my new pc which has a Ryzen 7900x3d processor.

Idling the temps are around 62*c and gaming I've seen it hit 92*c.

Wow 92??

40 is quite hot!!! -- 92 is insane....

Im not sure what my computers temps are. Any win98se programs out there that might tell me??

Corey N Georgie 06-08-2024 16:00

Re: New PC Temps
 
I'm just going to run it and not worry about temps as the system is solid with no crashes.

peanut 06-08-2024 16:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey N Georgie (Post 36180733)
I'm just going to run it and not worry about temps as the system is solid with no crashes.

At those temps I would be worried. For a new machine, that's not right. Get the person who built it to have another look at it and fix the problem.

Corey N Georgie 06-08-2024 16:58

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After reading this thread I'm not concerned.

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1543...mment-16223138

peanut 06-08-2024 17:11

Re: New PC Temps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey N Georgie (Post 36180742)
After reading this thread I'm not concerned.

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1543...mment-16223138

95c is the max temp for the 7900x, yours as Paul said is 89c.

You've had enough advice on here, up to you what you do. I wouldn't ignore it, as it's new I'd get it checked out. If all's okay then maybe look at better cooling. But get it checked out. I'm sure anyone who builds would understand that it needs looking at.

Jaymoss 06-08-2024 17:22

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Run Cinebench and when it hits 100 degrees and throttles come back and say it is ok.

Have you checked CPUZ and see if it is throttling at the highest temp anyway? you will see the frequency drop under high load if it is.

peanut 06-08-2024 17:44

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On a really intensive game fully maxed out, my cpu (7950x3D) gets to about 74c, my 4090 has never gone over 72c. But the exhaust heat is quite extreme. I worry when it gets to those temps but now I know a bit more I can certainly relax a little bit. Roll on winter...

Jaymoss 06-08-2024 18:34

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36180751)
On a really intensive game fully maxed out, my cpu (7950x3D) gets to about 74c, my 4090 has never gone over 72c. But the exhaust heat is quite extreme. I worry when it gets to those temps but now I know a bit more I can certainly relax a little bit. Roll on winter...

my 13700K throttles at around 250 watts 100 degrees but it only ever pulls that much in synthetic benchmarks so never throttles in real world computing. In games it only stresses on loading then settles and pulls around 80 watts my 4070TI pulls around 250 watts max settings 1440p

Stephen 06-08-2024 19:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36180751)
On a really intensive game fully maxed out, my cpu (7950x3D) gets to about 74c, my 4090 has never gone over 72c. But the exhaust heat is quite extreme. I worry when it gets to those temps but now I know a bit more I can certainly relax a little bit. Roll on winter...

Very similar to what my system was showing earlier today. 7700 wouldn't go higher than 72°C. GPU at 69°C.

As for not being concerned that it's sitting at 90+ I certainly would be. It shouldn't be hitting that temp, continuous high temps will likely kill the CPU quicker. You also said idle is around 60°C that's really not normal. Idle should be half that 40 at most.

Definitely get the builder to check it. Chances are heat sink is either mounted incorrectly or not tight enough and possibly not enough thermal paste. I really wouldn't just leave it. Could even be as simple as the AIO not having the fans set to the right curve. Mine runs 100% no matter what and it's still silent. The case fans (3 at front and 1 one rear) only ramp up under load to increase airflow through the case.

Paul 07-08-2024 01:51

Re: New PC Temps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey N Georgie (Post 36180733)
I'm just going to run it and not worry about temps as the system is solid with no crashes.

It wont crash, until it just dies, which will be much sooner than you hope. :erm:
It should not be running at those temps under normal use, still, its your choice. :angel:

Corey N Georgie 07-08-2024 17:47

Re: New PC Temps
 
Found the issue, the stupid idiot left the sticker on the bottom of the heatsink meaning it wasn't making proper contact.

Idling temps are now around 44*c

Jaymoss 07-08-2024 17:58

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hope you did not pay him much for doing it.

Corey N Georgie 07-08-2024 18:15

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Free of charge as it was his fault.

Stephen 07-08-2024 18:38

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Thought that could have been the issues. Glad it's sorted. Your underload temps should be lower now too. Hope they reapplied the thermal paste too.

peanut 07-08-2024 18:56

Re: New PC Temps
 
Glad you got it sorted out. :tu:

Maybe listen and accept the advice people give here rather than ignore it. Also maybe acknowledge the help too. It's helpful and it does go a long way.

Corey N Georgie 07-08-2024 19:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36180872)
Thought that could have been the issues. Glad it's sorted. Your underload temps should be lower now too. Hope they reapplied the thermal paste too.

YES thermal paste reapplied to.

Jaymoss 07-08-2024 19:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey N Georgie (Post 36180870)
Free of charge as it was his fault.

I meant for the build in the first place. That is a rookie error

Corey N Georgie 08-08-2024 18:48

Re: New PC Temps
 
I Paid £95 for the build to be done with my parts which I thought was good.

Just did a benchmark test and system didn't go above 62*c.

Stephen 08-08-2024 19:19

Re: New PC Temps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey N Georgie (Post 36180967)
I Paid £95 for the build to be done with my parts which I thought was good.

Just did a benchmark test and system didn't go above 62*c.

That is so much better:)

Glad you got it looked at.

Jaymoss 08-08-2024 21:55

Re: New PC Temps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey N Georgie (Post 36180967)
I Paid £95 for the build to be done with my parts which I thought was good.

Just did a benchmark test and system didn't go above 62*c.

I charge £50 and have never done that in 25 years

SnoopZ 09-08-2024 00:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36180982)
I charge £50 and have never done that in 25 years

How many hours labour for a build at £50?

Corey N Georgie 09-08-2024 00:44

Re: New PC Temps
 
They took 3 hours for the £95.

Jaymoss 09-08-2024 07:22

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36180991)
How many hours labour for a build at £50?

Depending on complexity and if everything works 1 to 2 hours max including OS install as this takes a few mins now. The price does not include water loops but AIO is included. Simple systems can be be built in half hour then OS on top

Corey N Georgie 09-08-2024 17:05

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I thought £95 for 3 hour work was reasonable and that's without the 45 min callout to fix the temperature issue which he has since done.

Jaymoss 09-08-2024 17:42

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Originally Posted by Corey N Georgie (Post 36181060)
I thought £95 for 3 hour work was reasonable and that's without the 45 min callout to fix the temperature issue which he has since done.

It would have been if he had been a competent system builder. Making this mistake shows he is not and it was his mistake if he had expected a call out fee he would have deserved a slap

Corey N Georgie 09-08-2024 18:00

Re: New PC Temps
 
Everyone makes mistakes, that's what makes us human at the end of the day. He apologized and that's the end of it from my point.

Paul 09-08-2024 18:21

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36181063)
It would have been if he had been a competent system builder. Making this mistake shows he is not ..

I bit harsh I think. I'm quite sure you have made mistakes.

Jaymoss 09-08-2024 19:15

Re: New PC Temps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36181067)
I bit harsh I think. I'm quite sure you have made mistakes.

I do not think it is harsh at all especially when charging nearly £100 to put a system together. There is very little you have to do nowadays it has all been dumbed now and in my opinion not removing the hotplate cover is amateur to say the least. On top of that where was the soak test that would have shown this error ?

As I said I can build a system quickly but it still gets a soak test that I do not have to sit around watching 3dMark and Cinebench so stability is tested. This system under proper load would not be stable therefore it was not tested

I stand by what I said. Bad system builders have killed the enthusiast system builders reputation. You want to see some of the terrible information on Facebook

A guy posted images of windows failings its in build memory diagnostics and after 50 replies I was the first to say errrm its faulty ram. The guy had tried a PSU reinstalled windows and wasted loads of time. Tested it with one stick of ram and it was fine

Stephen 09-08-2024 19:28

Re: New PC Temps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey N Georgie (Post 36181064)
Everyone makes mistakes, that's what makes us human at the end of the day. He apologized and that's the end of it from my point.

To be fair that is a rookie mistake and one that no person who has put a number of systems together would likely make I've certainly never made that mistake.

---------- Post added at 19:28 ---------- Previous post was at 19:23 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36181075)
I do not think it is harsh at all especially when charging nearly £100 to put a system together. There is very little you have to do nowadays it has all been dumbed now and in my opinion not removing the hotplate cover is amateur to say the least. On top of that where was the soak test that would have shown this error ?

As I said I can build a system quickly but it still gets a soak test that I do not have to sit around watching 3dMark and Cinebench so stability is tested. This system under proper load would not be stable therefore it was not tested

I stand by what I said. Bad system builders have killed the enthusiast system builders reputation. You want to see some of the terrible information on Facebook

A guy posted images of windows failings its in build memory diagnostics and after 50 replies I was the first to say errrm its faulty ram. The guy had tried a PSU reinstalled windows and wasted loads of time. Tested it with one stick of ram and it was fine

That sort of thing is one of the first checks to make. Checking everything is seated properly and the wiring is all correct. Then start taking out things and putting them back one by one to see when the error happens. Single stick is always a start.

When I built my latest system Las June everything looked fine but no post. Checked everything all components fine. Turns out I hadn't given the system enough time to run memory training as it's an AM5 build. For some reason it takes ages.


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