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Damien 26-07-2024 10:34

French train network hit by 'malicious' arson attacks hours before Olympics ceremony
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cxe24vg59lzt

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French rail company SNCF says its high-speed network has been targeted by "malicious acts" aimed at paralysing the system.

It comes hours before the opening ceremony for the Paris Olympic Games.

Several high-speed TGV lines have been hit to the west, north and east of Paris and queues have formed at Gare Montparnasse station in the city.

A number of trains have been cancelled and SNCF has warned that the situation could last "at least all weekend while repairs are conducted".
Bit suspicious.

Mr K 26-07-2024 12:14

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Seems the Russians have gone to the Olympics after all.

papa smurf 26-07-2024 12:26

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plenty of overtime for fibre splicers,i might volunteer ;)

Chris 26-07-2024 12:41

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36179758)
Seems the Russians have gone to the Olympics after all.

Seems likely. Any Islamist/Leftist/Eco-fascist group would have been loudly claiming responsibility by now. Causing mayhem while leaving the cause a troubling mystery is the Russian M.O. (as is flatly denying it should they be accused, even in the face of damning evidence).

Obviously it’s a blow for the French who want to be seen to be putting on a flawless Games, but the upside is that it might, just possibly, help make Western European governments take the final leap towards taking the Russian threat seriously. There is still too much tiptoeing around the fringes and hoping it’ll all somehow go away, but the reality is that the more the Russian army is degraded in Ukraine the more the Russian government will focus on asymmetric warfare as a means of trying to maintain its influence.

papa smurf 27-07-2024 08:56

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The opening ceremony was hideous,everyone soaked ,people leaving early without seeing anything, lady gaga's terible singing,a headless horror show, well done France.

Maggy 27-07-2024 10:02

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36179809)
The opening ceremony was hideous,everyone soaked ,people leaving early without seeing anything, lady gaga's terible singing,a headless horror show, well done France.

Disagree! I enjoyed it immensely.

Hom3r 27-07-2024 15:02

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36179809)
The opening ceremony was hideous,everyone soaked ,people leaving early without seeing anything, lady gaga's terible singing,a headless horror show, well done France.

I chose to watch NCIS on 5USA

papa smurf 27-07-2024 15:17

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36179827)
I chose to watch NCIS on 5USA

It was like the french version of it'll alright on the night [exept it wasn't alright] wouldn't be shocked to find out many of the athletes have got pnumonia after that soaking, it did have entertainment value but not in a good way.

Paul 27-07-2024 16:38

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36179827)
I chose to watch NCIS on 5USA

I chose to watch nothing. I have no real interest in the Olympics.

peanut 27-07-2024 17:38

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I thought it dragged on and on way too long and was way too disjointed.

The rain didn't help obviously. Luckily I watched it on delay so could ffwd it as I thought it'll never end. The metal horse was neat, but was way too long to do anything.

The dancers near the end were good, the laser show was excellent. Celine Dion (not a big fan) gave it everything you could tell what it meant to her. The torch lighting, again took way too long, and the balloon is bit meh. London's 2012 did that a lot better.

In the end they tried but it didn't work, stick to a stadium.

jfman 27-07-2024 17:41

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Beijing 2008 was the peak.

Damien 27-07-2024 17:48

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Yeah, I am not sure the boat thing worked but the ending was great. The horse and woman (Sequana) going up the Seine to dramatic music intercut with the history of the games was good. They finally had a sense of occasion, atmosphere and the feeling it was building to something.

The light show was excellent and the tension of the light show and building up to the reveal of where the Olympic cauldron was made it all quite exciting! I did like the dancing on top of the Debilly Bridge as the boats came through.

You just wonder if it would have been better without the rain. I think that scuppered them a bit.

The boats also just messed with the timing of it all. Having to keep cutting back really killed the pacing. Usually, you have the well-paced ceremony and then you can go away while the athletes' parade happens. This got rid of the boring bit in the middle of the ceremony but at the expense of the exciting bit.

And yeah that will be one of the most famous and iconic endings of an opening ceremony ever.

papa smurf 28-07-2024 11:09

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Swimming in the river Seine cancelled due to high levels of E coli bacteria,aka sewage in the water .

Maggy 28-07-2024 11:14

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36179843)
Yeah, I am not sure the boat thing worked but the ending was great. The horse and woman (Sequana) going up the Seine to dramatic music intercut with the history of the games was good. They finally had a sense of occasion, atmosphere and the feeling it was building to something.

The light show was excellent and the tension of the light show and building up to the reveal of where the Olympic cauldron was made it all quite exciting! I did like the dancing on top of the Debilly Bridge as the boats came through.

You just wonder if it would have been better without the rain. I think that scuppered them a bit.

The boats also just messed with the timing of it all. Having to keep cutting back really killed the pacing. Usually, you have the well-paced ceremony and then you can go away while the athletes' parade happens. This got rid of the boring bit in the middle of the ceremony but at the expense of the exciting bit.

And yeah that will be one of the most famous and iconic endings of an opening ceremony ever.

:tu:

1andrew1 28-07-2024 12:54

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36179863)
Swimming in the river Seine cancelled due to high levels of E coli bacteria,aka sewage in the water .

I did see a few comments likening the appearance of the boat on The Seine with the singer performing "Imagine" on it to a giant turd! :D So perhaps this was a strong hint to the authorities to clean the river up!

And I agree with other observers that the words "Imagine there's no countries..." don't work particularly well when you've just seen two hours of countries parading up the river in boats!

Mr K 28-07-2024 13:05

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Never mind, the beach volleyball looks splendid :)

papa smurf 28-07-2024 13:29

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36179871)
Never mind, the beach volleyball looks splendid :)

Some people aren't happy

Paris Olympics crowd boo Dutch rapist Steven van de Velde during opening match
Van de Velde, who was imprisoned in 2016 for raping a 12-year-old British girl, has been a controversial figure at this summer's Games. He was handed a four-year prison sentence for his actions but served only 12 months. The Dutch star arrived in France earlier this week under tight security.

And jeers rang out at a packed stadium as the 29-year-old took to the sand court at Champs de Mars park under the Eiffel Tower. He was then booed again as he was introduced to the crowd for his Olympic debut.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other...booed-33342547

1andrew1 28-07-2024 15:47

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36179872)
Some people aren't happy

Paris Olympics crowd boo Dutch rapist Steven van de Velde during opening match
Van de Velde, who was imprisoned in 2016 for raping a 12-year-old British girl, has been a controversial figure at this summer's Games. He was handed a four-year prison sentence for his actions but served only 12 months. The Dutch star arrived in France earlier this week under tight security.

And jeers rang out at a packed stadium as the 29-year-old took to the sand court at Champs de Mars park under the Eiffel Tower. He was then booed again as he was introduced to the crowd for his Olympic debut.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other...booed-33342547

I'm surprised he was picked by his country. That's not going to go well down with most people there even if he did serve (some of) his term.

Paul 28-07-2024 18:55

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36179880)
I'm surprised he was picked by his country. That's not going to go well down with most people there even if he did serve (some of) his term.

A quote from the BBC article
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It was interesting that every Dutch fan I spoke to was either unwilling to talk about the subject or was supportive of Van de Velde.

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On another note, as you might of guessed, someone somewhere managed to complain they were "offended" by the ceremony.

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A banquet sequence featuring drag artists in particular came in for criticism from Christian groups, who felt it parodied Leonardo da Vinci's painting 'The Last Supper'.
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The Catholic Church in France was among critics, saying the ceremony featured "scenes of derision and mockery of Christianity".
:rolleyes:

Pierre 29-07-2024 08:28

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36179904)
On another note, as you might of guessed, someone somewhere managed to complain they were "offended" by the ceremony.




:rolleyes:

I think they had a right to be.

Damien 29-07-2024 08:56

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It's a bit confected, isn't it? The Last Supper has been parodied/invoked thousands of times by now. It's so famous that it's been used as a reference many times. I've seen comics do it, The Simpsons did it, South Park has done it, Lost did it, House MD did it, and Battlestar Galactica did it as a poster to advertise themselves.

That arrangement has to be one of the most used motifs in the history of Western art.

The cat is long out of the bag for The Last Supper being some untouchable work.

1andrew1 29-07-2024 09:07

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36179933)
I think they had a right to be.

Cancel Culture snowflakes.

jfman 29-07-2024 10:05

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36179933)
I think they had a right to be.

In France people have been slaughtered for less when it was another of the world’s major religions.

Hugh 29-07-2024 11:28

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36179937)
It's a bit confected, isn't it? The Last Supper has been parodied/invoked thousands of times by now. It's so famous that it's been used as a reference many times. I've seen comics do it, The Simpsons did it, South Park has done it, Lost did it, House MD did it, and Battlestar Galactica did it as a poster to advertise themselves.

That arrangement has to be one of the most used motifs in the history of Western art.

The cat is long out of the bag for The Last Supper being some untouchable work.

It was a Dionysian Feast, not the Last Supper...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-dionysus.html

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'It was a representation of the event called the Feast of Dionysus. Greek God of festivity and feasting and ritual and theater.'

'The Olympics are from Greek culture and tradition. French culture is deeply rooted in feasting and festivity and performing arts.'

According to the theory the scene depicted in the opening ceremony was based on a painting called 'Feast of the Gods' by Johann Rottenhammer and Jan Bruegel, circa 1602.
https://www.today.com/news/paris-oly...rsy-rcna163929

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The official X account for the Olympic Games shared photos of the moment and referenced Dionysus, Greek god of wine-making, fruitfulness and ecstasy.

“The interpretation of the Greek God Dionysus makes us aware of the absurdity of violence between human beings,” read a tweet captioning the photos...

...Appearing on French news channel BFM-TV Sunday, Jolly confirmed “The Last Supper” was “not my inspiration.”

“There is Dionysus who arrives on this table. He is there because he is the God of celebration in Greek mythology,” Jolly said. “The idea was to have a pagan celebration connected to the gods of Olympus. You will never find in me a desire to mock and denigrate anyone.”

Damien 29-07-2024 11:37

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I think the part with the blue guy singing was Dionysus but there was a cut where they panned out from the table before that - without him - which I think pretty much was The Last Supper. Again, it's too iconic a reference for it to be unintentional surely.

1andrew1 29-07-2024 11:37

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36179951)
It was a Dionysian Feast, not the Last Supper...

:D

tweetiepooh 29-07-2024 12:07

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Topic was on disruption but now more generally Olympic based so : enjoyed the Rugby 7's but struggling to find the archery. BBC showed the GB match(es) but not the others. They show other sports without GB participation so they should make the archery and other sports also available. Isn't that why we have the red button to select the event we want, navigating BBC iPlayer is a pain?

papa smurf 29-07-2024 12:08

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Vandals target French telecoms network as far-left activist arrested over rail attacks ahead of Paris Olympics

https://news.sky.com/story/far-left-...mpics-13185452

Chris 29-07-2024 13:53

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36179962)
Topic was on disruption but now more generally Olympic based so : enjoyed the Rugby 7's but struggling to find the archery. BBC showed the GB match(es) but not the others. They show other sports without GB participation so they should make the archery and other sports also available. Isn't that why we have the red button to select the event we want, navigating BBC iPlayer is a pain?

European Olympic broadcast rights are now with Discovery Sports, not the BBC. UK legislation means Discovery is compelled to make a certain amount of it available to the BBC but the BBC doesn’t have the rights to do wall-to-wall red button coverage like it did in 2012.

Paul 29-07-2024 18:08

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36179933)
I think they had a right to be.

Yes, just as everyone else has the right to dismiss them as idiots desperately trying to be offended. ;)

Pierre 29-07-2024 18:25

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36180001)
Yes, just as everyone else has the right to dismiss them as idiots desperately trying to be offended. ;)

Of course, but mocking the Christian/catholic faiths is lazy, and definitely not edgy or provocative. It’s safe and unimaginative.

Now if they, or he, had done something mocking the prophet Mohammed, now that would have been edgy……….but that would never happen, because they’re not edgy, controversial or rebellious……….it’s safe

Damien 29-07-2024 18:35

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Is it really mocking?

Pierre 29-07-2024 18:40

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36180008)
Is it really mocking?

Replacing Jesus and the Apostles with Drag queens, Trans and the Alphabet squad………yeah…a little bit.

Hugh 29-07-2024 18:42

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36180009)
Replacing Jesus and the Apostles with Drag queens, Trans and the Alphabet squad………yeah…a little bit.


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The official X account for the Olympic Games shared photos of the moment and referenced Dionysus, Greek god of wine-making, fruitfulness and ecstasy.

“The interpretation of the Greek God Dionysus makes us aware of the absurdity of violence between human beings,” read a tweet captioning the photos...

...Appearing on French news channel BFM-TV Sunday, Jolly confirmed “The Last Supper” was “not my inspiration.”

“There is Dionysus who arrives on this table. He is there because he is the God of celebration in Greek mythology,” Jolly said. “The idea was to have a pagan celebration connected to the gods of Olympus. You will never find in me a desire to mock and denigrate anyone.”

Pierre 29-07-2024 19:00

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Yes, I saw what you posted earlier.

I don’t buy it, and it’s a cowards answer, that’s been called out, and seen the backlash heading his way.

Dionysus, or more well known as Bacchus, the god of hedonism.

There are no historical depictions of him in the style of the Last Supper.

So they can say what they want, their intention was clear.

Hugh 29-07-2024 22:16

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36180015)
Yes, I saw what you posted earlier.

I don’t buy it, and it’s a cowards answer, that’s been called out, and seen the backlash heading his way.

Dionysus, or more well known as Bacchus, the god of hedonism.

There are no historical depictions of him in the style of the Last Supper.

So they can say what they want, their intention was clear.

Except for the one mentioned in my original quote, The Feast of the Gods by Johann Rottenhammer and Jan Brueghel the Elder (1602)…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1722287586

Pierre 29-07-2024 22:31

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36180051)
Except for the one mentioned in my original quote, The Feast of the Gods by Johann Rottenhammer and Jan Brueghel the Elder (1602)…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1722287586

Looks nothing like it

Damien 29-07-2024 22:37

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36180009)
Replacing Jesus and the Apostles with Drag queens, Trans and the Alphabet squad………yeah…a little bit.

Why? More so than the countless times the motif of The Last Supper has been used with the participants replaced with comic book characters, cast photos, cartoon characters e.t.c?

This just strikes me as another outrage cycle for people to be angry about something before moving onto the next thing.

1andrew1 30-07-2024 15:46

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36180054)
This just strikes me as another outrage cycle for people to be angry about something before moving onto the next thing.

Exactly. The artist has explained the background, if they insist he's wrong and persist in seeing a problem where none exists, then it's tine to buy shares in tin foil manufacturers.

Pierre 30-07-2024 18:01

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36180054)
Why? More so than the countless times the motif of The Last Supper has been used with the participants replaced with comic book characters, cast photos, cartoon characters e.t.c?

This just strikes me as another outrage cycle for people to be angry about something before moving onto the next thing.

Yeah, well easy target isn’t it, as he knows he won’t have a load of Christian’s carrying AK47s looking for him.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36180117)
Exactly. The artist has explained the background, if they insist he's wrong and persist in seeing a problem where none exists, then it's tine to buy shares in tin foil manufacturers.

Say that to a load of Muslims would you? A Batley grammar school teacher would like a word with you.


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