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Tories are gonna get spanked harder than an onlyfans content creator*

*allegedly**

**the onlyfans bit, tories are definitely getting spanked

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Labour have been on the back foot over the past week. First the Diane Abbot debacle, then the Tory tax claims. Why Starmer didn't refute that in the debate at the first, or even second, opportunity I do not understand. Probably because taxes are going to increase. But now it's been largely debunked as a made up figure, Labour can go to town on the PM's integrity.

There was a compelling party election broadcast from the Lib Dems last night. It was fairly low on substance, but high on values. https://twitter.com/LibDems/status/1...VsWh-Qd4A&s=19

I'm hoping an Independent candidate who lives in, understands and will stand up for my area puts themself forward. It looks as though parties will start publishing their manifestos from next week, which may help me to make up my mind who to vote for.

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Is no-one bothered that Diane is a quivering shadow of her former self, Angela is not sure where she lives, Labour's teary first Minister in Wales lost a recent no confidence vote and Sir Keir appears to have a steam-powered thinking process?

They are going to run the Country (probably at 20mph)? :disturbd:

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An upgrade on the current lot, do you not think?

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I'll need to ponder over my reply. OMG, it's making me all shaky and all teary...who, what, where am I?

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1. Yes, I’m concerned for the apparent Parkinsonian symptoms Diane Abbot is exhibiting. I have no doubt she is also aware, and is likely taking medical advice. However, if she is happy to continue to pursue a political career while those symptoms are not debilitating, that’s up to her. Her hard left politics concern me, but TBH she is on the lunatic fringe of the Labour Party, whereas hard right politics is very much mainstream in the current Tory party and that is of far greater concern to me.

2. Angela Rayner has been investigated by the police and other authorities and is facing no further action. Not sure what your problem is?

3. The Senedd is a glorified county council and attracts politicians of that calibre. Its Labour membership, in particular, pretty much opted out of the New Labour project of the late 90s and early 2000s and as a result are prone to making lumbering, centralising, unreconstructed lefty errors with now very obvious consequences for the likes of the NHS in Wales. However, until voters in Wales lose their widespread compulsion to vote for anything in a red rosette regardless of their competence, they will continue to get the government they deserve.

4. Starmer is, I think, capable of quick thinking, but his instincts are to stop and chew things over rather than respond quickly. Watch back the infamous £2,000 claim in the ITV debate and you can visibly see Starmer thinking to himself, “Hang on, that’s not right, it’s so obviously not right there must be some reason I’ve not spotted for him to be even saying that … there could be a trap here, let me think it through.” As the debate unfolded over the subsequent 24 hours of course it became clear it was just a brazen lie designed to be so epic in scale that we all stop and assume it can’t be a lie, there must be some truth to it. If that’s how the Tories are going to conduct the next 4 weeks of campaigning, then Starmer is going to have to start trusting that he knows what he’s offering the electorate and act quickly to counteract misinformation about it.

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If like me and you don't want KS in you have to vote Tory, as any other vote will put KS in No 10, I will then call for another election as I didn't get what I voted for. (The Remainers tries, so why can't I?)

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And you’ll get one (in around five years time…).

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I'm afraid if you don't want Sir Keir as your PM, you'll have to move to another country in July. ;)

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If only we got to vote every 5 years on Brexit. The result would be a foregone conclusion.

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Someone dared to mention the B word on Question Time tonight, sadly several people were trampled by the elephant in all the confusion that ensued.

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Starmer would have legged it all the way down to London if that was mentioned in QT Chester! And Sunak would be citing Covid and the Ukraine war to explain our country's unique 5% reduction in GDP even before the questioner was able to finish their sentence!

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Thats what they said for the original vote. ;)

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4 weeks to end of the worst government ever cant wait to see all the tories cry in sports halls

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1. I empathise with Diane of course. But she is not her old self, and if Labour do win, a possibly progressive illness is not a useful asset.

2. The Greater Manchester Police said that “matters involving council tax and personal tax do not fall into the jurisdiction of policing" which implies a limited "investigation" on their part which is just as well for Angela given that the same police force sent innocent Andy Malkinson to the slammer for 17 years.

3. Agreed. If a cry baby FM, a knackered health service and a 20mph speed limit don't do it, nothing will.

4. Yep, he's quick alright. He pretended to be gormless and he fooled me.

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Unlikely, they already know the outcome, its not like it will come as a shock.

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Rishi Sunak not getting a good press this morning from many prominent Conservative commentators.

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Sunak has messed up big time. Leaving the D-Day commemorations early to do a campaign interview shows how out of touch he and his team are.

BBC are now reporting that he is making a grovelling apology for leaving early.

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That is unacceptable on all levels. I don't think any kind of apology is going to cut it. What a plonker.

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This time around I think we’ve been stung by the lies, corruption, dishonesty and the effects of Long Boris to ever vote blue for a long time.

Nope Labour in Wales in not ideal. I’ve always thought it’s been a case of voting for who you think will do the least damage. Welsh Tories may not be Westminster Tories but they are definitely cut from the same cloth.

As such, no blue vote from myself or anyone I personally know, for a very very long time.

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They won't hang around to see it. They'll all be on their holidays. They know their days are numbered.

Will Sunak step down as Conservative leader?

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HMRC have also confirmed there is no case.

This wasn't really going to go anywhere. The Tories did it just ahead of the local election campaign as a bit of politics.

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I don't understand how he can be so stupid. This is a bit of clever politics that you need to be a Tony Blair character to spot.

Anyone with the most basic sense of politics or common sense would say that the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom does not leave the 80th commemoration of D-Day early. Even outside of an election, you don't do it. David Cameron was there did he not warn Sunak how it would look? There is a photo of the President of the United States, The President of France, The Chancellor of Germany and .... the UK foreign secretary. Thankfully Cameron is an ex-PM so it still looks statesmanlike from the UK. Even politically surely Sunak wants to be in that photo?

The thing is that it's so easy. You should want to do this as PM anyway. Which PM would not want to spend their time with D-Day veterans of every country on what will be the last ever chance to do so? Starmer stayed for the whole thing and I don't think that not attending, or leaving early, was ever considered for Labour. I don't think they even thought about it until Sunak left early.

When Suank left early did he not consider "Wait a moment, Starmer is staying behind? Maybe I should as well?". Maybe he thought he was being clever because Starmer won't be campaigning and he would?

It's bad politically, and morally, and a basic failure to do his job.

The guy is a complete moron.

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We all indulge in performative outrage to a greater of lesser extent on forums like this. It’s a debating tactic after all. But this morning I am absolutely incensed that Sunak thought it was acceptable to leave D-Day commemorations even a second earlier than any of the other leaders present, in order to go on ITV and repeat his lies about Labour’s tax plans. Utterly extraordinary. And no amount of unreserved apology can undo the evidence of him being fundamentally unsuitable for the job of Prime Minister.

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There’s got to be one or two gullible enough to think they’ll win their own seat though and losing their 80k a year job plus expenses might overwhelm them.

That said I’m not staying up for it.

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It's starting to feel like there's too many 'mistakes' for it to be a mistake.

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You could be generous and say that the Prime Minister had issues at home to sort around the election. However, he left the actual Leader of the Opposition there who is tweeting photos of himself with veterans, the King and even Volodymyr Zelensky who, let’s be honest, has much bigger domestic issues going on than en election right now.

I am starting to wonder if there’s some kind of side bet to throw the election. Is Rishi Sunak going to be on Taskmaster or something with a task to get less than 100 MPs?

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It was put out there for the gullible but didn't work!

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Obviously, not completely true... ;)

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I'm just baffled by such a decision and hope the veterans don't feel too let down by their country's leader.

It clearly shows Sunak's disconnect to the British public because until now I couldn't think of anyone who would a) want to skip such a ceremony b) think doing so wouldn't reflect badly on them with their friends, family and in this instance, the electorate.

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Luckily for Sunak, the biggest UK Army camp (Catterick) in the world isn't in his constituency...

Oh, wait....

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What’s quite mad is this was a day Rishi was getting for free. No difficult election questions. Gets to be a statesman while Starmer hangs around pretending. Maybe sell some of his Dad’s tools to Zelensky.

But no, he made a mess of it.

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Just walking past Downing Street as you do and I came across Sunak's Friday night karaoke lyrics blowing down the road. I may have tweaked them slightly ;)

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Slightly off topic (sorry) but a contrast on how a different national Leader behaves:

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One of the best clips I saw on the news yesterday. Those who had to shed their blood to push totalitarianism back because it was allowed to spread too far across Europe before anyone seriously woke up to the threat … they see Ukraine, its leader and its people, and they know, and they understand.

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Yes, I so agree. So much relevance for today ...

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And as regards the disgraceful Sunak, the ITV interview that was more important to him than showing due respect for those who fought and died in what is perhaps the single most important military engagement in history, won’t even air until Wednesday of next week. Which means when it comes around, we will all be talking about this again.

See how tiny is my violin.

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This isn't the topic for it really but across Europe there is a rising sympathy for totalitarianism amongst the young. It's telling that in France Le Pen's weakest demographic is those who remembered the Nazis and Vichy France. It's a worry then this generation leaves entirely.

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Small enough for him to play...

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Very good :D

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3 )and yet sir kier has confidence in them , is he stupid, lying or a plain con artist :cool:

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He’s exercising a form of collective responsibility. His private thoughts on Welsh Labour would probably be quite illuminating. Also, vis a vis Tory claims that what Welsh Labour is doing to the NHS in Wales now is an indication of what UK Labour would do to the NHS in England after the election, it’s worth pointing out that Welsh Labour was running the Cardiff clown car last time there was a UK Labour government, and there was a notable disparity in outcomes between England and Wales then, too. Of course Labour can’t draw attention to that without implicitly slagging off the Welsh branch of the party, so they’re a bit stuck.

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He can't say he's got no confidence in them. I don't know if there's anything he can or is doing behind the scenes to improve things.

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Labour do have a bit of a habit of bringing down waiting lists after a Tory government…

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What the heck is going on on the election 2024 program the audio is way out of sync

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Blair’s Westminster Labour government absolutely did that. Welsh Labour in the Senedd … not so much.

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Unite refuses to endorse Labour party’s election manifesto

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Sunak on TV apologising for leaving the D Day commemorations early, then trying to make out that any further discussion of this decision would be disrespectful to veterans and those that lost their lives because it would be "politicising" the commemorations.

The guy is a total ass.

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Wherefore art thou witty remoaners? Rishi is guilty of D-exit. Please discuss for the next 4 years :dozey:

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True obviously but given my natural disdain and suspicion of Tories (even by association) I’d rather take a gamble on things possibly staying the same, potentially getting slightly worse with the current lot than have Tories in and virtually guaranteeing the latter on a grand scale.

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Can’t believe I’m saying this but what about the Lib Dems? I can understand why you’d dismiss the plaidos out of hand but there are other alternatives. The problem with just sticking with one party over the very long term is that they get complacent, which tends to make them even worse.

I think Wales is in a bit of a bind, and to be brutally honest I think the underlying problem is that the Senedd and government have got too much legislative/executive power.

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Good call about the Lib Dems and yeah you’re right about Plaid. I just prefer to vote for a party with fairly recent and relevant government experience.

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Or do what the Remainers did and demand another vote?

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Difference being Remainers don’t get another crack 4 or 5 years later.

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He's been told that before, but doesn't quite
seem to understand it....

Another referendum on Europe at some point, is a certainty. Problem is we'll get a much worse deal than we had, but have to take it. Beggars can't be choosers.

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In both situations, I don't think the result would/will be any different. Do you?

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People have moved on from 8 years ago and can quite clearly see the wood for the trees now.;)

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Classy…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1717930834

What the Labour candidate was doing in France…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1717930741

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Bit like when he didn't understand what he was voting for in the referendum

It's okay to ignore the will of the people now and thwart their will

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Anyone know why Kuenssberg is missing from the iPlayer today? There’s a lot of people talking about Farage being racist about Sunak which I suppose might have meant they were worried about falling foul of the law in some way but no official reason seems to have been given.

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They have removed clips from X too. Possibly something Farage said (seen some comments online) But could alternatively be the fact he was promoted on screen as being in Clacton could mean that, rather than being interviewed in his capacityas Reform leader, he is perceived as being interviewed as a constituency candidate, a perk that his opponents in Clacton haven't been given.

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Hearing some very disturbing rumours that Sunak’s D-Day debacle was planned to allow him to fall on his sword…..paving the way for David Cameron’s return to number 10. Apparently he’s the only Tory believed to be capable of preventing the total annihilation of the Tories we’ve been hoping for.

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I think that’s likely the result of people having too much time on their hands and desperately trying to find new angles on the story. Or maybe just that the whole debacle was so jaw-droppingly crass that some people simply can’t believe it could happen.

Personally I think it’s instructive to remember that Rishi Sunak is the one who came second to Liz Truss the last time the Tories had a leadership election. They knew he was even worse than she was. They’ve always known. And their failure to deal with him months ago has now blown up in their faces and they have nobody to blame but themselves.

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No you’re absolutely right with all that. But given how much of a bloodbath they’re facing, desperate measures such as this would not shock me one bit.

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I reckon, as seen as Labour are going to win regardless, that I might as well vote for Nigel’s party. Just to give the Tory’s a kicking and see what arises out of the ashes.

They’ll either reform into a proper Conservative Party or just perish and be replaced.

This election is basically a free punt.

We’re guaranteed at least 10yrs of Labour, providing they don’t implode as spectacularly.

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They’re beyond saving, they could resurrect Thatcher and still lose.

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It’s an interesting calculation. If you accept there’s a percentage of population that are racist, of that percentage there will some that are right leaning. Do more of them vote Tory led by someone else than Sunak?

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Do you know any left leaning racists?

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I’m sure there’s racism across the political spectrum.

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Oh I think it’s entirely possible, based on what we know of his temperament, that he could resign from the entire process, seat and all, and those who have been speculating this weekend are correct to the extent that a replacement PM would have to be someone already in the establishment. I don’t believe they’re precisely correct about the replacement absolutely having to be a minister - none of this is covered by Act of Parliament, it’s all evolving precedent. But as there are no MPs in the Commons as of 30th May, the next best thing is a member of the Privy Council, which aside from a few royal and judicial members is mostly made up of current and former ministers and senior opposition office holders. And within that set, the most obvious choice is a senior member of the present government. Cameron fits the bill on that basis. So far, so logical. It’s just the cAmErOn Is StItChInG iT uP angle that’s fanciful.

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Next door to us as he is no fan of Sunak or Farage.

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It’s a bit of a shame for our Nige the far right seem to be doing well in the European election. Instead he’s slumming it in Clacton.

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I think Rishi will last until the election, but maybe we should open a poll to guess what time he resigns as leader of the Conservatives on Friday 5th? I think he'll be gone by 6.30am.

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Well you need to have ambition.

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Farage has form for this - he is an expert at skirting round the edges of what is acceptable, then drawing back and acting as if nothing has happened. He baits those who want to call him a racist into over-the-top reactions, whilst appealing to the hard right with the dog-whistle style phrasing.

followed by

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx005vdgg5yo

Also known as the "motte-and-bailey fallacy"…

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Dave isnt an MP, or running to be one. Might make PMQs a bit tricky if he's not there?

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A Lord can be PM. Not happened for about 130 years but constitutionally possible as well as an administrative nightmare but again given the Tories’ impending bloodbath they’d give anything a try.

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I don't think this shower are particularly bothered about constitutional precedent or pesky legal technicalities anyhow, if needs must etc just do it.

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Call-me-Dave’s elevation to the Lords and appointment as Foreign Secretary made him the first peer to hold one of the 4 great offices of state since Lord Carrington resigned as Foreign Secretary in 1982 for failing to take seriously the signs that Argentina was planning to invade the Falklands.

The convention that senior ministers should be members of the commons so they could be regularly questioned by elected MPs itself goes much further back. The last Lord Prime Minister retired from office in 1902. Alex Douglas-Home was a peer when asked to become PM in 1962 but by then it was understood that it just wouldn’t do for him to remain in the Lords and he immediately renounced his peerage.

Personally I think more than 40 years of there being no Lords in any of the senior cabinet posts should have been enough to end the idea for good and it therefore smacked of desperation to parachute Cameron in. An admission there was nobody good enough in the entire elected Tory party. Some of the recent commentary around Sunak and the D-Day debacle leads me to think on some level he wanted a former PM to be Foreign Sec because that way he could turf a lot of the foreign policy that was rightfully the PM’s onto him. It has become clear that Sunak finds international relations boring. Poor wee scrap.

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Apparently the source is Nadine Dorries's Tweets so not reliable. Sounds like she's dreaming up a plot line for her next novel more than anything that's actually happening. I guess at least the protagonists get to keep their clothes on in this tale for a change!
https://news.sky.com/story/sunak-all...uture-13150285

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If KS loses the General Election will he resign?

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Sunak will jet off to California with his billions. He knows he’s lost this.

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In Scotland it’s the old red card for Douglas Ross (the branch office leader for the Conservatives for those currently asking “who?”. Expenses scandal claiming from the taxpayer for journeys undertaken relating to his work as a linesman.

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Most political leaders if they lose the election whatever their political party generally resign.

The betting odds suggest Rishi Sunak does not have much time to book his removal van.

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics

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So what’s on the agenda this week? Is Rishi Sunak going to punch David Attenborough in the face? Will the Conservatives launch a policy of indentured servitude for second born children? Or maybe we could declare war on someone?

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As JF Man suggested, Douglas Ross will resign as leader of Scottish Conservatives after the election.
https://news.sky.com/story/douglas-r...tives-13150604

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So true. He has mentally checked out and is already choosing his meal selection for the first class flight to LA.

I wouldn't be surprised if some hack discovers his children's LA school reservations :)

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Key thing this week are the manifestos:

• Today: Liberal Democrats. Available here https://www.libdems.org.uk/manifesto
• Tuesday: Conservatives
• Wednesday: Green Party
• Thursday: Labour

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You mean if Labour lose ?
I dont think thats going to be an issue.

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Count Binface released his too, similar to what I voted for in the mayoral election, reintroduction of ceefax, naming bridges after famous people, Phoebe Waller, Wayne etc, caping the price of croissants (European surrender food) at a quid, banishing Peirs Corbyn (and hopefully Morgan) to the Phantom Zone, putting either David Attenborough or a statue off him on the fourth plinth and finishing crossrail

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Such a patriot, milked the country dry before and after marriage and buggers off, good riddance

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Does he still want to relocate the hand dryer in the gents at the Crown and Treaty to a more convenient location? Or has he dropped that now he’s standing for a seat in Yorkshire? :D

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No it's still on there, how could I forget that as is banning loud snacks from cinemas and theatres

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A sensible policy, everybody should get behind.

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Be careful what you post on your socials.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...754a3f9b&ei=16

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He's been reading Farage's school reports again :)

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Who is the 1 Conservative in the CF poll? Stand forward and state your case. We're all ears ... ;)

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I suspect it was Old Boy paying a fleeting visit. There's little that will disuade him from voting Conservative. But to be fair, their candidate Lucy Demery is an upgrade on Redwood in his twilight years.
https://wokingham.today/lucy-demery-...for-wokingham/

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I'm curious who the two "Others" are voting for.

Looking up my candidates on the BBC website, I see I have moved to a new constituency, apparently part of some reform over the last year.

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Me too - maybe UKIP? Monster Raving Loony Party? Independent?

Is there any significance behind the Liberal Democrats being in italics or is that just a glitch?

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That would be who you voted for :rofl: