Men less likely to wear ties with a jacket
 

These past few years has seen the increasing trend of men not wearing a tie with a jacket, even in the most formal of settings, which until recently was extremely rare but is now commonplace. I'm curious to know people's thoughts on this.

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I wear a tie only when I absolutely have to. Weddings, funerals, the odd other occasion.

Shirts have not required a tie at the neck for a century or more. As it is a decorative object, I choose whether I wish to decorate myself in that way or not. That’s it, really.

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I started to ditch the tie about 5 years ago. It gets in the way and I think it looks nicer to just have a good quality shirt on.

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Ditto. :)

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I ditched ties, the bowler hat, the cape and plus fours many years ago. Far too anachronistic.

I havent ever liked Ties.............

The other day I saw a young chap with a tie on,I would say he is 5 or 6....... I dunno why they had a tie on him but it looked quite out of place! (I guess cause I dont like ties anyway)

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No one likes or enjoys ties. You have to wear them under certain circumstances.

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Wrong.

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There's always one.... :D

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I don’t wear ties because the Iranians don’t.

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I last wore a tie to get my current job - Jun 1999. I wore a cravat for my wedding and simply don't wear ties at all now. I don't think I have a shirt that I can do up the top button.

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Last time I wore a tie (and a suit) was my mothers funeral over 7 years ago.

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What about the Russians ?

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As I conduct weddings and funerals I wear ties slightly more often than that, however my experience conducting funerals is that these days fewer than half the men attending own a dark suit and a black tie. The younger they are, the less likely. The youngest men often will be in white shirt, black jeans and the darkest coat they could lay their hands on (often leather). They invariably look like they work as a waiter and have nipped out the back for a fag while it’s quiet.

I’m the last to complain as I wear a tie only when absolutely necessary, but even I acknowledge the rare, formal occasion when dignity requires a uniform response from those attending, and I know (from having lost my black tie more than once and having to buy another one at short notice) that it isn’t expensive to own one and keep it in the back of the wardrobe for when required.

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Coincidently I have recently been listening to an article that claims that ties are a symbols of masculine authority/superiority because they are essentially an arrow pointing to the penis!

There are discussions about this on the internet too.

Maybe ties are falling out of fashion because, even subconsciously, the younger generation wish to distance themselves from this??

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Or perhaps that’s just bolleaux?

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar…

https://moderntie.com/blogs/news/the...-mens-neckties

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There are also discussions about the Earth being flat, and the moon being made of cheese, it doesnt actually make those things true ...

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That's right, Ties are symbol of white supremacy as wearing one mocks slaves that had metal collars around their neck, even the name "tie", is in reflection to the slaves hands that were "tied" as they were transported. It's obvious when you think about it.

The dickie bow is a symbol of patriarchy, wearing one is just like a decorative bow you would put on a present, effectively a possession, meaning that you possess all that is around you including your wife.

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The last time l wore a tie was 6 years ago at our best friends funeral.

Yes I have a movie from 1980 Paul that mentions the "Flat earth society" (Hopscotch)

How long has this madness been going on??

HOW COULD THE EARTH BE FLAT??? -- I DONT THINK THERE IS ANY WAY IT COULD BE!!

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Well that would take a long time to fully cover.

Earth was believed to be flat long before we knew it was a sphere. However in recent years and decades some have decided to ignore science and fact. I've seen some YouTube videos and Netflix documentaries. There are deeply invested and even have conventions where they meet and discuss their own takes on science.

But back to topic. I only wear a tie and suit at weddings and funerals.

About 15 years ago the call centre I worked in decided that we all needed to be smarter so rules were changed and trousers shirts and ties became mandatory. It did not go down well.

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Surely they don't really believe it. I always treated it as a long-running joke.
("People all around the world believe the earth is flat")

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100% serious. Its embarrassing. The videos I've seen, there reasoning for it being flat are insane.

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I didn't wear a tie in my last job, even though it was a office job I was given the same uniform as the shop floor, and a tie didn't go with the polo shirt.

But I did wear a tie when I worked for TNT AMS, except on the very hot days, but I did if I went to outstation in Belgium, regardless of the temp (one time it was 35c)