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Rishi Sunak sacks Suella Braverman as home secretary as he begins reshuffle
Monday 13 November 2023 08:45, UK

Suella Braverman has been sacked as home secretary.

Last week she wrote a newspaper article that criticised the Metropolitan Police's handling of a controversial pro-Palestinian march for Armistice Day.

The prime minister came under pressure to act after Ms Braverman was accused of undermining the operational independence of - and public confidence in - the police.

Critics - from both opposition parties and fellow Tory MPs - called Ms Braverman's comments "offensive" and "inflammatory".

In a piece for The Times, Ms Braverman accused the police of "playing favourites" with how it handles controversial protests by showing a more lenient attitude to left-wing protesters than their right-wing counterparts.

She ramped up her attacks on those attending pro-Palestinian demonstrations - likening them to Protestant marches in Northern Ireland - comments that were labelled "wholly offensive" and "ignorant" by one former Tory cabinet minister.

This breaking news story is being updated and more details will be published shortly.

https://news.sky.com/story/suella-br...etary-13003852

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The Tories. A shit show that seems to never end....

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David Cameron seen going into 10 downing street

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It's easy to kick Braverman now she's down, but I think we should take a moment to remember all the excellent things she's done in her career, like...

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...carry on.

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Good riddance to the worse Home Secretary ever.

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:clap::clap::clap::clap:

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Sunak slow to react as ever.

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How can I compete with this comment. Irony at its best!

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James Cleverly confirmed as home secretary sky news

https://news.sky.com/story/suella-br...593360#6760210

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'Call me Dave is back' ! Must be some mistake he's a Remoaner...

Rejection of the swivel eyed loons and back to the centre ground? Too little, too late.

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Interesting stament from no 10:-.
“Rishi Sunak has asked Suella Braverman to leave government and she has accepted.”
What if she declined? :confused:

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Cameron confirmed foreign secretary ironic a brexit Pm that kept coming on about unelected bureaucrats just appointed a unelected foreign secretary

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That's just smacks desperation on their part. They're screwed and they now know it.

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Lord Cameron of Witney?

(He will need to given a Peerage to serve in Government)

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From the Guardian...

'Braverman says she will have 'more to say in due course', implying she does not plan to accept her sacking quietly
According to PA Media, Suella Braverman has said:

It has been the greatest privilege of my life to serve as home secretary … I will have more to say in due course.

That implies she is working on a blistering “resignation” speech, which is unlikely to be comfortable reading for Rishi Sunak.'

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Clearly nobody on the backbenches wants to postpone their future career prospects by serving their country.

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The first time one of the Great Offices has been held by a peer since Carrington, who resigned for failing to spot the imminent invasion of the Falkland Islands in 1982 (and arguably also for a foreign policy posture that encouraged Argentina to think they could get away with it). Though the more serious question is whether it is any longer acceptable to have a senior cabinet member beyond the scrutiny of the elected chamber.

Sunak may well be trying to distance himself from his own party’s right wing but winding back our principles of democratic accountability by a generation is a desperate way of doing it.

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The sooner we have a general election, the better..

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Somebody call the vet, the Tory party needs to be put out of its misery.

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They should also bring back Boris as Minister for Sillly Walks ( a post last held by John Cleese), but he'd be crap at that too.

Maybe Dave is paving the way for a new EU referendum? He's good at those.

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Oooof!

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1699870953

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Can you have "a greatest privilege" twice?

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General Election for May hopefully.

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Rishi Sunak - "Alright Dave. I've had the same Government for 13 years...". "Yeah, only had 5 new Prime Ministers, 8 new Home Secretaries, and 7 new Chancellors"....

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:D

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Meanwhile, at the Daily Mail/Telegraph/Express/GB News…

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A very appropriate metaphor of the danger of electing Labour - you're alluding to the fact that Vincent saved the day a little later after a decision of misguided and catastrophic stupidity? :D

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Wondering if I can shoe horn in a metaphor for the tories when later in the film when he was killed with his own gun whilst on the toilet :)

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Wow, a politician who actually resigned when the screwed up

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https://x.com/bethrigby/status/17240...Fx9lsEXWlOa1jg

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letters going in later

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That seems to be the take away from today.

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Imposing an unelected Eton failure as Foreign Secretary, a man who imposed years of austerity on the country, literally broke the country in 2016 and then ran away, is the final act in this Clown Show of a Party.

Beyond parody ...

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Also don't forget the Greensill scandal.

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Still another year yet (slightly longer if they wait until Jan 2025).

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Rishi Sunak sacked Suella Braverman by phone this morning.

And Downing Street say there won’t be any exchange of letters between the two - almost unheard of.

https://twitter.com/tamcohen/status/1724114063049806090

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What happened to Gove?

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Ask Dorries

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first letter in Andrea Jenkyns she confirmed it on her twitter

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Well that's her off Dougie's List then

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Esther McVey is going in to tackle wokery. :rofl:

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Doh!

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I think he is still wandering the streets of London looking for a "hate mob" photo op :)

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I remember someone saying, not sure who though, that they would not want the US and the UK in executive limbo at the same time so Jan 2025 may be off?

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Being told that one of the reasons a significant number of Ministers are asking to step down now is because ACOBA rules require 6 month hiatus before taking up certain jobs. Clearly believe we’re looking at May election.

https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status...32224700370993

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I like Dan Hodges but I think he’s reaching a bit here. Ministers get a payoff when they leave office equivalent to a quarter of their salary. They can more than afford a six-month career break in the event of losing an election and unless some of them have already been offered jobs they know are starting next spring I’m sceptical they’ll be overly concerned about the enforced pause.

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It might also be if there are a few select positions and they don't want to be held back while their colleagues are free to take up posts right away. I remember reading that MPs are not as in demand as they once were, the respect the position holds has declined, and whilst Ministers are probably fine maybe they won't find it as easy as they would like to get the same kind of jobs their predecessors did.

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tbf, there has been quite a turnover in Government Ministers in the last thirteen years, probably leading to a glut on the market…

https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...ent-reshuffles

This is just Cabinet Ministers/Secretaries of State, not including all of the others (each Department can have between 6-12 Ministers & Parliamentary Under-Secretaries)

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1699909019

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And how employable, at the senior level, are brief ministers? How many of the recent ones have come out with enough clout and respect to be attractive for top positions?

Cleverly? Gove and Hunt. Wallace. Sunak himself. Tugendhat and Mercer? All of those have served for some time in some position and are at least somewhat heavy hitting enough to be of interest to the private sector.

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Gove no way. He is a serial disrupter and wouldn't last 5 mins in an environment where people wouldn't handle his jumping around and need to keep Cummings nearby.


Sunak is loaded and there is absolutely no chance the guy needs to work again. Probably why he went into politics. They would probably just head back to the US and work with hedge funds again to have something to do.

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Aside from Education Gove has a good reputation and has served in multiple posts usually lasting quite a long time in each of them since he isn't a screw-up. He is one of the few people who's been near or in the cabinet for most of the last 13 years, I think he'll probably be ok.

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Well, that is what his machine likes people to think, anyway.


I can't think everything in Nads book is true but all of the roads in it lead to Gove, and a cabal including Cummings (who was his adviser all the time) in power and basically running the party behind the scenes.


It seems a bit far fetched, and maybe it is. But Gove is a clever guy and a slick operator, he also doesn't have the empathy or public face to be a PM in his own way. So why not just sit in a safe minor ministerial role where you can keep things ticking over whilst moving things at a bigger picture? It sort of holds weight really.


When you think about it he's held ministerial roles basically constantly since 2010 but hasn't done a lot since Education. it's like he's around the place like a bad smell because no-one can or dares to get rid of him, and because they'd rather have him in the bunker shitting than shitting into it from outside, presumably.

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There is nothing like a former Home Secretary scorned.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2446793.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67420331

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Meeoww!!
Sounds like a bit of a schoolgirl tantrum. Unfit for office obviously, but that goes for the lot of them.

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Nadine Dorries after hearing about Cameron’s Peerage… ;)

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Who was it who said we would have strong and stable government.:(

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Good reputation? From who? You have a very, very, low bar. Worrying low ...

Isn't he the one who stabbed Johnson in the back and also promised, on video, that Brexit would never, ever, compromise environmental standards?

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From Whitehall, it's widely reported he is a respected minister amongst civil servants. Same noises from James Cleverly who had positive noises from the Foreign Office.

Again it fits given the long time he tends to stay in roles.

This is about my personal opinion of the man but just what seems to be said of him.

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This is for other reasons.


Though I think she's a bit of a loon, you should read Nads book and draw your own conclusions...

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I guess the respect you cite was due to the fact he actually turned up for work and tried to do the job in hand. However, I'd discount one Tory saying how good another Tory is as slightly biased.

Look to the real world and see the mess he made of the Education sector when he was in charge. He was almost universally loathed by the teaching profession due to his toxic changes. Look to the real world and see him promising, on camera, that leaving the EU would improve food & environmental standards yet we now have them lower than ever before.

Bottom line is that the man is a serial liar and cannot be trusted.

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I can vouch for that, half my family were teachers (most left now) and they and their colleagues all despised him. He thought he was being clever with the syllabus as he reinvented the wheel, trouble is his was square shaped. Aside from being a greased weasel who would trust a man who looks like a Botox experiment gone wrong :shocked: