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gus0898uk 21-09-2023 01:44

BT/TNT Sport on Discovery+
 
I apologise in advance but I am an anologue in the new digital world. :)

With my Virgin package I watch Champions League, PL etc on BT Sports now TNT sport on 527, 528 etc etc

I have seen it mentioned that TNT Sport is moving to Discovery+,what do I have to do to keep watching the footy?
TIA:dunce:

Legendkiller2k 21-09-2023 02:16

Re: BT/TNT Sport on Discovery+
 
TNT sports will still be available on virgin media as a seperate subscription.

gus0898uk 21-09-2023 11:31

Re: BT/TNT Sport on Discovery+
 
I'm not too sure about this, I recently agreed a new 18 month contract which included BT Sports, now if I want to watch BT SPORT/TNT SPORT I will have to pay even more to watch it on Discovery?
I can feel a phone call coming on.

TimeLord2018 21-09-2023 11:50

Re: BT/TNT Sport on Discovery+
 
The linear channels aren't shutting down, only BT Sport app is closing next month which wasn't included with Virgin anyway.

https://support.discoveryplus.com/hc...out-TNT-Sports

Joedm45 21-09-2023 13:17

Re: BT/TNT Sport on Discovery+
 
As far as I know, if your contract includes BT Sport then you carry on receiving the now renamed TNT Sport.

RichardCoulter 21-09-2023 14:51

Re: BT/TNT Sport on Discovery+
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 36160439)
As far as I know, if your contract includes BT Sport then you carry on receiving the now renamed TNT Sport.

...until you renegotiate at the end of your contract and are moved onto the nrw package that doesn't include it.

I guess you could keep it by not renegotiating & paying the out of contract price, but that's likely to cost a lot more than £18.

I had a call the other day from that overseas call centre. They offered to move me to the new Maxit TV called Mega TV or something that doesn't include TNT Sport, but I could keep it for £18 more!

I obviously declined and said it was a ridiculous offer to make. She then offered to double my broadband speed. I still declined as what I have is perfectly adequate.

They really must have a low opinion of the intelligence of their customers and will try absolutely anything to screw extra out of people without giving anything extra for it unless they absolutely have to.

TimeLord2018 21-09-2023 14:58

Re: BT/TNT Sport on Discovery+
 
TNT Sports is still available to subscribe though, £18 on TV packages and £10 on Stream.

The only TNT Sports package available on Discovery+ is Premium at £30

Whether Discovery+ launches on Virgin at some point and a TNT Sports subscription via Virgin includes access to Discovery+ Premium like Sky is another matter.

ozsat 21-09-2023 15:32

Re: BT/TNT Sport on Discovery+
 
SkyQ subscribers with TNT Sport via Sky - and BTv subscribers with TNT Sport get it added at no extra cost to Discovery+.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36160442)
TNT Sports is still available to subscribe though, £18 on TV packages and £10 on Stream.

The only TNT Sports package available on Discovery+ is Premium at £30

Whether Discovery+ launches on Virgin at some point and a TNT Sports subscription via Virgin includes access to Discovery+ Premium like Sky is another matter.


gus0898uk 21-09-2023 16:07

Re: BT/TNT Sport on Discovery+
 
Thanks for all the input, as long as I can still get the football that is all I really watch on BT.
As well as my Maxit package, I also have Amazon Prime, but that is something I use a lot for shopping also. My last VM deal I lost Sky Cinema, but that was no big loss to me.

OLD BOY 22-09-2023 16:34

Re: BT/TNT Sport on Discovery+
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36160441)
...until you renegotiate at the end of your contract and are moved onto the nrw package that doesn't include it.

I guess you could keep it by not renegotiating & paying the out of contract price, but that's likely to cost a lot more than £18.

I had a call the other day from that overseas call centre. They offered to move me to the new Maxit TV called Mega TV or something that doesn't include TNT Sport, but I could keep it for £18 more!

I obviously declined and said it was a ridiculous offer to make. She then offered to double my broadband speed. I still declined as what I have is perfectly adequate.

They really must have a low opinion of the intelligence of their customers and will try absolutely anything to screw extra out of people without giving anything extra for it unless they absolutely have to.

If they contacted you because you were near to the end of your contractual term, it was a reasonable offer because TNT have pulled out of the wholesale deal with VM. I see that they did offer you double the broadband speed free, and if you were nice to them, they may have thrown in Sky Cinema free instead if you didn’t want the broadband. That’s what they did for me, and I am a very happy bunny.

Rillington 28-09-2023 16:28

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I wonder how many more customers VM will lose due to TNT Sports disappearing from the XL package (or whatever the silly name it has now).

OLD BOY 28-09-2023 16:51

Re: BT/TNT Sport on Discovery+
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 36160844)
I wonder how many more customers VM will lose due to TNT Sports disappearing from the XL package (or whatever the silly name it has now).

Well, all of them, since it's a TNT decision. It will still be available, but at an increased cost.

jfman 28-09-2023 17:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36160849)
Well, all of them, since it's a TNT decision. It will still be available, but at an increased cost.

Despite the many predictions of a lost cost streaming future, I might add.

1andrew1 28-09-2023 22:40

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Was not expecting this!
Quote:

Premier League and EFL agree to sell TV rights together

The Premier League are set to agree an historic deal with the EFL in which they will sell their television rights together for the first time.

Under the terms of a proposal from the Premier League that was presented to clubs earlier today the EFL will also receive 14.75 per cent of their pooled media rights from next season and an £88 million bonus payment this season, with collective selling to begin in 2028.

The details presented to EFL clubs at a meeting in Derby represent a major breakthrough in what has been a protracted stand-off with the Premier League for several years, and will lead to an immediate increase in funding for the lower divisions.

Whilst the exact figures will depend on future television deals the 14.75 per cent share is expected to more than double the current £130m in solidarity payments the Premier League provide to the EFL, a figure which excludes parachute payments.

The agreement to sell television rights on a collective basis is also hugely significant, and should ensure that the funding of EFL clubs rises in line with that of the Premier League.

This sales model would be welcomed by broadcasters, particularly Sky Sports, as it would give them more certainty over future content.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/foot...193a9014&ei=46

jfman 28-09-2023 22:52

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Odd that in - theoretically at least - the most competitive landscape ever for TV rights the EFL decides to tie it’s future media revenue growth to someone else rather than back themselves in the marketplace.

Aligning both is arguably a necessary precursor to the end of the 3pm blackout.

Paul 29-09-2023 02:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36160877)
Aligning both is arguably a necessary precursor to the end of the 3pm blackout.

That ridiculous "rule" should have been dumped years ago.

1andrew1 29-09-2023 10:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36160877)
Aligning both is arguably a necessary precursor to the end of the 3pm blackout.

I think this is the sub-plot.

OLD BOY 29-09-2023 13:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36160855)
Despite the many predictions of a lost cost streaming future, I might add.

Not for sport, if you remember, although I think that will improve with consolidation.

Hugh 29-09-2023 13:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36160893)
Not for sport, if you remember, although I think that will improve with consolidation.

Yes, because nothing reduces prices like a couple of companies holding all the rights (cf Sky Sports)

1andrew1 30-09-2023 12:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36160893)
Not for sport, if you remember, although I think that will improve with consolidation.

I agree that if consolidation happens, this could lead to a reduction in fees paid for TV rights which ultimately could be passed onto the consumer. Likely not via a price reduction but a price freeze.

The trouble is that there have been too many companies out there willing to run TV sports broadcasting at a loss and hence provide sports with more competition for their rights, driving up prices.

The UK's only hope for no increases in pay TV sports prices must be that DAZN stays away from major sports and that the duopoly of TNT Sports and Sky Sports for major rights continues.

1andrew1 01-10-2023 09:40

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Looks like there could be a three-way split for c250 Premier League rights. Maybe DAZN 50 games, TNT 50 games, Sky 150 games?
  • DAZN has confirmed it will be involved in the bidding process.
  • Premier League is hoping for £4bn pa for all rights, international and dometic. This is up from £3.47bn a year. However, £3.47bn has been the price for six seasons at a time of very high inflation.
  • New four-year deal domestic broadcast tender document being sent out this month. (Previous deals were for three years)
  • Games on offer will rise from 200 to 250-270.
  • There will be fewer packages of games - likely five packages with 50-54 games per package so no light package like the current one Amazon has.
  • Sunday evening games won't be included.
  • More games will come from:
    - Monday and Friday nights
    - Saturday lunchtimes and tea-times
    - Three slots across Sundays
    - Various midweek matches
See https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-TV-fight.html

jfman 01-10-2023 09:47

Re: BT/TNT Sport on Discovery+
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36161059)
Looks like there could be a three-way split for c250 Premier League rights. Maybe DAZN 50 games, TNT 50 games, Sky 150 games?
  • DAZN has confirmed it will be involved in the bidding process.
  • Premier League is hoping for £4bn pa for all rights, international and dometic. This is up from £3.47bn a year. However, £3.47bn has been the price for six seasons at a time of very high inflation.
  • New four-year deal domestic broadcast tender document being sent out this month. (Previous deals were for three years)
  • Games on offer will rise from 200 to 250-270.
  • There will be fewer packages of games - likely five packages with 50-54 games per package so no light package like the current one Amazon has.
  • Sunday evening games won't be included.
  • More games will come from:
    - Friday nights
    - Saturday lunchtimes
    - Saturday tea-times games
    - Three slots across Sundays
    - More Monday games
    - Various midweek matches peppered across the season.
See https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-TV-fight.html

I'll believe the DAZN bid when I see it. Even their actual statement doesn't commit to an actual bid - one could reasonably interpret that as being in discussions to understand the bidding process more.

Quote:

‘We will be involved in the bidding process'
At least we now know what I've always expected the bargain basement Amazon offer was only viable because it was so cheap. It's interesting that, despite being one of the largest companies on the world, it doesn't sound like there's any appetite to jump in for 50 games at market value.

1andrew1 01-10-2023 10:16

Re: BT/TNT Sport on Discovery+
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36161060)
I'll believe the DAZN bid when I see it. Even their actual statement doesn't commit to an actual bid - one could reasonably interpret that as being in discussions to understand the bidding process more.

At least we now know what I've always expected the bargain basement Amazon offer was only viable because it was so cheap. It's interesting that, despite being one of the largest companies on the world, it doesn't sound like there's any appetite to jump in for 50 games at market value.

The Amazon experiment would have been cancelled after three years if the rights hadn't been rolled over because of Covid.

If DAZN don't get involved now, then I doubt they ever will! TNT's owners are likely to focus more on the bottom line now the channel's role is not to be a loss-leader for BT broadband subscriptions. And there's cheap sports rights to be plucked from Viasport UK if filler rights are needed to bulk up the DAZN offer.

But having three players with 50+ matches each will be pricey and encourage alternative sourcing.

OLD BOY 01-10-2023 13:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36160896)
Yes, because nothing reduces prices like a couple of companies holding all the rights (cf Sky Sports)

I think it is clear to most that it is cheaper for sports fans if as many sports were provided by a limited number of providers rather than having to pay for subscriptions to multiple providers.

Itshim 01-10-2023 13:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36161087)
I think it is clear to most that it is cheaper for sports fans if as many sports were provided by a limited number of providers rather than having to pay for subscriptions to multiple providers.

However the bigger number controled the better chance of getting a premium. Time will tell perhaps :rolleyes:

Rillington 02-10-2023 16:36

Re: BT/TNT Sport on Discovery+
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36161059)
Looks like there could be a three-way split for c250 Premier League rights. Maybe DAZN 50 games, TNT 50 games, Sky 150 games?

I think that's not a bad guess. In fact I'd e very surprised if DAZN does't pick up some PL games.

ozsat 02-10-2023 16:52

Re: BT/TNT Sport on Discovery+
 
DAZN already have EPL deals for coverage around the world so would not actually be new to the tv rights people.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 36161146)
I think that's not a bad guess. In fact I'd e very surprised if DAZN does't pick up some PL games.



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