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1andrew1 19-06-2023 13:45

Partygate 2: New investigation launched June 2023
 
Wasn't there an 80s song about this by The Associates? ;)
Yes, here it is.
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Met Police launch new Partygate investigation into Downing Street and Chequers gatherings

Officers investigating new evidence including video of ‘Jingle and Mingle’ Christmas party at Tory headquarters

Scotland Yard announced that it was “assessing information and new material” over events in 2020 and 2021 on Monday, shortly before parliament debated a report sanctioning Mr Johnson for misleading parliament over the parties.

Its previous Partygate investigation saw 83 people, including the former prime minister and his successor Rishi Sunak, given a total of 126 fines.

A Metropolitan Police spokesperson said: “A number of other events have subsequently been referred to us which we are in the process of assessing.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2360209.html

jfman 19-06-2023 15:01

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Convenient timing for this to leak distracting from the Boris vote of shame.

Stuart 19-06-2023 15:51

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36154154)
Convenient timing for this to leak distracting from the Boris vote of shame.

Personally, I think it's to distract the media from the honours list. I mean, what could one young girl working for Boris have done in a 2 year career that would warrant a peerage? I suspect I know, but Carrie might not be happy with the answer.

Pierre 19-06-2023 16:00

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you cannot comprehend the enormity of the MOD EDIT I don't give about this.

Using language that invokes the Site "swear filter", or using asterisks to avoid the Site "swear filter", is against Site T&Cs.

Repetition of this behaviour will invoke the Infraction System.

pip08456 19-06-2023 17:01

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36154161)
you cannot comprehend the enormity of the MOD EDIT I don't give about this.

I can as I'm the same.

Damien 19-06-2023 18:08

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I don't think the police time is worth going after staffers several years on. There is still some argument to be made that you should go after the politicians who wrote the laws they're breaking but as a political event people know Johnson & Co lied, they've made their minds up and it brought down Johnson as well as derailed the Government.

pip08456 19-06-2023 18:19

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36154184)
I don't think the police time is worth going after staffers several years on. There is still some argument to be made that you should go after the politicians who wrote the laws they're breaking but as a political event people know Johnson & Co lied, they've made their minds up and it brought down Johnson as well as derailed the Government.

Here’s the first minister of wales breaking his own lockdown rules at the time at a packed Diwali party.

You know the man whose rules were so Draconian and insane he cling-filmed supermarket aisles.

Anyone calling for his head? He’s still In charge - labour saying nothing.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...6&d=1687195064

Mr K 19-06-2023 18:36

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Whataboutism alert again !

jfman 19-06-2023 19:08

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36154185)
Here’s the first minister of wales breaking his own lockdown rules at the time at a packed Diwali party.

You know the man whose rules were so Draconian and insane he cling-filmed supermarket aisles.

Anyone calling for his head? He’s still In charge - labour saying nothing.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...6&d=1687195064


Steady pip, you’re starting to sound like you care.

1andrew1 19-06-2023 19:21

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If I didn't give a monkey's I wouldn't read a thread let alone post anything! Life's too short.

Hugh 19-06-2023 19:59

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36154185)
Here’s the first minister of wales breaking his own lockdown rules at the time at a packed Diwali party.

You know the man whose rules were so Draconian and insane he cling-filmed supermarket aisles.

Anyone calling for his head? He’s still In charge - labour saying nothing.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...6&d=1687195064

Do you mean he was breaking the lockdown rules in Wales at the time which stated -

"Face coverings are not required in premises where food and drink is served'.

The advice says: 'This is because the purpose of attending those places is to eat and drink, for which a face covering is not practical and, therefore, not required.'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lebration.html

btw, are you re-quoting Sophie Corcoran or CCHQ? ;)

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1687201437

Damien 19-06-2023 20:15

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It's literally copy and pasted!

pip08456 19-06-2023 20:57

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36154197)
It's literally copy and pasted!

Yes.

jfman 19-06-2023 21:09

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At least if you are reading and regurgitating Sophie Corcoran’s views on anything it confirms you’ve given up caring.

1andrew1 19-06-2023 22:31

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36154201)
Yes.

Why not credit the author?

jfman 19-06-2023 22:35

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36154212)
Why not credit the author?

Because neither did Sophie Corcoran. :rofl:

1andrew1 19-06-2023 22:43

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36154213)
Because neither did Sophie Corcoran. :rofl:

OB logic. :D

1andrew1 04-07-2023 17:57

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And a new investigation is launched today! No 10 really has been a a drain on our hard-pressed police service.
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In a press release, the force said: "The Met is now re-opening an investigation into potential breaches of the regulations at an event in Matthew Parker Street on 14 December 2020."

That December date is the same day that footage was taken showing workers on Shaun Bailey's 2021 London mayoral campaign dancing and mingling while the capital was in Tier 2 of COVID restrictions.

They added: "Following assessment of material relating to a gathering in Parliament, the Met is opening an investigation into potential breaches of the Regulations at an event on 8 December 2020."

The Metropolitan Police has previously issued 126 Fixed Penalty Notice (FPNs) referrals following an investigation into claims of Covid rule breaching parties at Downing Street and Whitehall.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...dd63fb200&ei=7

Mick 05-07-2023 08:44

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Oh wonderful, a Covid thread. Most Political Parties broke the stupid rules for what is essentially just a cold.

Mr K 05-07-2023 09:00

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36155332)
Oh wonderful, a Covid thread. Most Political Parties broke the stupid rules for what is essentially just a cold.

Bit of a nasty cold to cause 228,000 deaths in the UK.

Mick 05-07-2023 09:23

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36155333)
Bit of a nasty cold to cause 228,000 deaths in the UK.

They did not die of just Covid.

Of which most of those has other major ailments, being a contributing factor. We all know how those deaths were recorded, they could have been knocked down, if they tested positive over a certain period, Covid was put on Death certificates.

Colds can kill people. It was a cold, I caught Covid 6 times, 3 before any jabs. I’ve had colds worse than Covid.

tweetiepooh 05-07-2023 09:27

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36154195)
Do you mean he was breaking the lockdown rules in Wales at the time which stated -

"Face coverings are not required in premises where food and drink is served'.

The advice says: 'This is because the purpose of attending those places is to eat and drink, for which a face covering is not practical and, therefore, not required.'


By that logic why prosecute anyone where food and drink were served? Unless of course it's the gathering itself that's the problem then work through all events reported equitably. Even those without high profile attendees.



This whole thing is getting a bit tedious.

Mr K 05-07-2023 09:38

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36155339)
They did not die of just Covid.

Of which most of those has other major ailments, being a contributing factor. We all know how those deaths were recorded, they could have been knocked down, if they tested positive over a certain period, Covid was put on Death certificates.

Colds can kill people. It was a cold, I caught Covid 6 times, 3 before any jabs. I’ve had colds worse than Covid.

So life expectancy in the UK which has been increasing for decades, has declined last few years. Is that a clue that it was more than a 'cold'?

Mick 05-07-2023 12:43

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36155341)
So life expectancy in the UK which has been increasing for decades, has declined last few years. Is that a clue that it was more than a 'cold'?

It was declining not because of Covid. You do know there are thousands of other serious medical complications?

OLD BOY 05-07-2023 13:14

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36154186)
Whataboutism alert again !

That doesn’t mean it’s not relevant or not just as important. Of course, if it’s Labour people misbehaving, you would always want to be quiet about it. A little balance wouldn’t go amiss, although I know I stand to be disappointed.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36155341)
So life expectancy in the UK which has been increasing for decades, has declined last few years. Is that a clue that it was more than a 'cold'?

More like flu, I’d say.

---------- Post added at 13:14 ---------- Previous post was at 13:13 ----------

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36155340)
By that logic why prosecute anyone where food and drink were served? Unless of course it's the gathering itself that's the problem then work through all events reported equitably. Even those without high profile attendees.



This whole thing is getting a bit tedious.

I agree. This whole thing has been ridiculously hyped up for political advantage.

Mr K 05-07-2023 14:39

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36155359)
It was declining not because of Covid. You do know there are thousands of other serious medical complications?

You mean because of 13 years of the Tories running the NHS into the ground, increasing levels of poverty and the country generally going backwards? Yes, all contributory factors to lower life expectancies.

OLD BOY 05-07-2023 18:58

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It was Covid that ran the NHS into the ground, although I know you would prefer to believe otherwise.

denphone 05-07-2023 19:32

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36155404)
It was Covid that ran the NHS into the ground, although I know you would prefer to believe otherwise.

Absolute rubbish as its very convenient for the government to blame covid for everything as there has been a huge funding gap since 2010 onwards and severe austerity cuts into the bargain as well.


https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/nhs...privatisation/

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...o-fix-the-nhs/

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...rd-study-finds

Mr K 05-07-2023 21:53

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36155404)
It was Covid that ran the NHS into the ground, although I know you would prefer to believe otherwise.

I think you'll find it's been going downhill since 2010. What happened then I wonder?
https://www.health.org.uk/publicatio...-waiting-times

jfman 05-07-2023 22:14

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36155404)
It was Covid that ran the NHS into the ground, although I know you would prefer to believe otherwise.

:rofl: what’s actually frightening is you believe that and have a vote equal to everyone else’s (FPTP aside) in an election.

An utterly deranged fantasy.

Foreign agents must be rubbing their hands that the brightest young minds in CCHQ - the governing party in all but thirteen of the last forty-five years are stupid enough to break the law, on camera, with an audit trail.

These idiots would pay out a far greater return than Farage’s bank account.

OLD BOY 06-07-2023 13:50

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36155410)
Absolute rubbish as its very convenient for the government to blame covid for everything as there has been a huge funding gap since 2010 onwards and severe austerity cuts into the bargain as well.


https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/nhs...privatisation/

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...o-fix-the-nhs/

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...rd-study-finds

Such a shame about the 2008 financial crash, wasn’t it? Don’t forget that when David Cameron’s government came to power immediately after the election, he put more money into the NHS which Labour claimed was ‘reckless’ in view of the financial crisis.

Labour would not have put the NHS in a better position because while it is good as spending money, it is completely incapable of controlling the budget.

If you do not believe that Covid had a devastating impact on the NHS, you are not thinking this through, are you, Den?

jfman 06-07-2023 13:54

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36155482)
Such a shame about the 2008 financial crash, wasn’t it? Don’t forget that when David Cameron’s government came to power immediately after the election, he put more money into the NHS which Labour claimed was ‘reckless’ in view of the financial crisis.

Labour would not have put the NHS in a better position because while it is good as spending money, it is completely incapable of controlling the budget.

If you do not believe that Covid had a devastating impact on the NHS, you are not thinking this through, are you, Den?

What’s having a devastating effect in the incompetence and inadequacy if the Conservative party. The sooner they are out the door and this great nation can get up off its knees the better.

1andrew1 06-07-2023 14:06

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36155482)
Such a shame about the 2008 financial crash, wasn’t it? Don’t forget that when David Cameron’s government came to power immediately after the election, he put more money into the NHS which Labour claimed was ‘reckless’ in view of the financial crisis.

Labour would not have put the NHS in a better position because while it is good as spending money, it is completely incapable of controlling the budget.

If you do not believe that Covid had a devastating impact on the NHS, you are not thinking this through, are you, Den?

Den's saying the rot set in before Covid, he's not disputing that made it worse. I believe he's mentioned his wife works for the NHS so he has some insights that you may not be party to.

OLD BOY 06-07-2023 16:44

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36155488)
Den's saying the rot set in before Covid, he's not disputing that made it worse. I believe he's mentioned his wife works for the NHS so he has some insights that you may not be party to.

You mean in the bad old Labour days when hospital patients were drinking out of vases and the Health Minister was more interested in hiding bad news than fixing it?

jfman 06-07-2023 17:10

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36155499)
You mean in the bad old Labour days when hospital patients were drinking out of vases and the Health Minister was more interested in hiding bad news than fixing it?

The bad old Labour days :rofl:

Pick a side OB you can’t argue the NHS was AND wasn’t working before Covid. Otherwise it’s just anti-Labour vitriol and Conservative propaganda.

For someone who waxed lyrical about how we just have to believe to make things better, you aren’t giving the next Government the backing I’d have expected.

OLD BOY 06-07-2023 20:19

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36155505)
The bad old Labour days :rofl:

Pick a side OB you can’t argue the NHS was AND wasn’t working before Covid. Otherwise it’s just anti-Labour vitriol and Conservative propaganda.

For someone who waxed lyrical about how we just have to believe to make things better, you aren’t giving the next Government the backing I’d have expected.

You are being ridiculous. It’s pointless debating anything with you.

denphone 06-07-2023 20:29

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36155518)
You are being ridiculous. It’s pointless debating anything with you.

Your biggest problem is you repeatedly parrot the same lines as CCHQ and Tory media outlets OB without any proof or substantiation of your increasingly wild untruthful claims.

Mad Max 07-07-2023 20:08

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Witch hunt part 2.....:geez:

OLD BOY 07-07-2023 20:10

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36155520)
Your biggest problem is you repeatedly parrot the same lines as CCHQ and Tory media outlets OB without any proof or substantiation of your increasingly wild untruthful claims.

And your biggest problem, Den, is to assume that anything coming out of the Conservative camp is a lie. Do you never stop to analyse your anti- Conservative attitude? Listen to the argument rather than obsessing on the source.

jfman 07-07-2023 20:16

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36155606)
And your biggest problem, Den, is to assume that anything coming out of the Conservative camp is a lie. Do you never stop to analyse your anti- Conservative attitude? Listen to the argument rather than obsessing on the source.

Is that the argument that’s going to get trounced at the next election? It’s not den you have to worry about it’s the voters deserting them in their droves. Millions of people up and down the country with falling living standards. Workers getting below inflation pay rises. Home owners getting rinsed by their banks. People that were supposed to be on the right side of the drawbridge when the Tories pulled it up.

Pray, tell, OB. How much do they have to lose the argument by for you to take the blinkers off and concede the shambles they are?

TheDaddy 07-07-2023 22:19

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36155609)

Pray, tell, OB. How much do they have to lose the argument by for you to take the blinkers off and concede the shambles they are?

I don't understand why anyone who isn't a multi millionaire in pure cash has anything to do with that party, seriously what's in it for them


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