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Dave42 09-06-2023 15:56

FOUR Tory MPs have thrown in the towel
 
Nadine Dorries standing down as MP with immediate effect
In a tweet moments ago, Nadine Dorries wrote: "I have today informed the chief whip that I am standing down as the MP for Mid Bedfordshire, with immediate effect.

"It has been an honour to serve as the MP for such a wonderful constituency but it is now time for someone younger to take the reins."

This will trigger a by-election in her Mid Bedfordshire constituency.

Nadine Dorries has served in parliament since 2005, and has served in government since 2019 when Boris Johnson took office.

She was promoted to the Cabinet in September 2021, serving Culture Secretary until Mr Johnson left Downing Street in September 2022.

Her standing down as MP means that a by-election will now take place in her constituency.

At the 2019 general election, she won 59.8% of the vote, or a majority of 24,664, meaning it was a relatively safe Conservative seat.

However, with Tory party currently struggling in the polls, opposition parties will no doubt fight hard to take that seat.

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...-blob-12593360



dont let the door hit you on way out Nadine

Hugh 09-06-2023 16:14

Re: Nadine Dorris stands down as MP with immediate effect
 
She's obviously not done it because of this...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...full-x77j5dhq9

Quote:

Nadine Dorries, the former culture secretary, and Alok Sharma, the former Cop26 president, had been expected to stand down to take peerages, leaving Sunak facing two by-elections.

However, a Whitehall source said that both were taken off the list yesterday over concerns about the damaging impact of the contests, particularly in Sharma’s marginal Reading West seat. Downing Street declined to comment.

Last night a source familiar with the process said that Dorries and Sharma’s names had been resubmitted to the House of Lords appointments committee for vetting and their peerages were likely to be granted at a later date.
Also, Nads this morning on TalkTV

https://twitter.com/i/status/1667183710561615880

Quote:

The last thing I would want to do is cause a by-election in my constituency

jfman 09-06-2023 16:20

Re: Nadine Dorris stands down as MP with immediate effect
 
Blue on blue action. Delicious.

Hugh 09-06-2023 16:23

Re: Nadine Dorris stands down as MP with immediate effect
 
I wonder if Johnson will go for the seat?

On a related note, I see Conor Burns has been ambushed by a knighthood - just goes to show if you continually spout sycophantic nonsensical rubbish about cakes, your toadying will be rewarded…

(OB lurking hopefully) ;)

Damien 09-06-2023 19:05

Re: Nadine Dorris stands down as MP with immediate effect
 
These people who get Knighthoods or Peerages and were just friends/minor staffers for a Prime Minister, how do they not feel embarrassed by it? At least with long-standing MPs there is an element of public service being rewarded and something to be said for experience in the Lords. We may not always agree and see them as politically motivated but at least in their minds there is a justification.

But to go around as a 'Sir', 'Dame' or 'Lord' and put yourself in a category with people who earned it because your mate was PM? Just shameless.

Shaun Bailey. Failed candidate for London Mayor and a London Assembly member. He is now a Peer!

This as well:

Quote:

Charlotte Owen, a former adviser to Mr Johnson, will become one of the youngest peers, as will fellow advisers Ben Gascoigne and Ross Kempsell.
It's just all so shameless and pathetic. Our political and media class is just one big club using the instruments of the state to back-slap and reward each other. Sir David Attenborough worked for years producing programs and advocating for the environment to get his Knighthood, Sir Simon Clarke MP has been an MP for six years but he was mates with Johnson so gets the same reward. Imagining having the arrogance to be a Knight for that, pathetic.

I am not even annoyed at Johnson. He used his last bit of power to reward his allies, which always happens, I am annoyed by the people that accept it when deep down they must know they don't deserve it.

jfman 09-06-2023 19:37

Re: Nadine Dorris stands down as MP with immediate effect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36153450)
These people who get Knighthoods or Peerages and were just friends/minor staffers for a Prime Minister, how do they not feel embarrassed by it? At least with long-standing MPs there is an element of public service being rewarded and something to be said for experience in the Lords. We may not always agree and see them as politically motivated but at least in their minds there is a justification.

But to go around as a 'Sir', 'Dame' or 'Lord' and put yourself in a category with people who earned it because your mate was PM? Just shameless.

Shaun Bailey. Failed candidate for London Mayor and a London Assembly member. He is now a Peer!

This as well:

It's just all so shameless and pathetic. Our political and media class is just one big club using the instruments of the state to back-slap and reward each other. Sir David Attenborough worked for years producing programs and advocating for the environment to get his Knighthood, Sir Simon Clarke MP has been an MP for six years but he was mates with Johnson so gets the same reward. Imagining having the arrogance to be a Knight for that, pathetic.

I am not even annoyed at Johnson. He used his last bit of power to reward his allies, which always happens, I am annoyed by the people that accept it when deep down they must know they don't deserve it.

Why should they not be proud of their achievements? It is the literal embodiment of the British state. Who knows who, who is related to who, etc.

You don't think they backed Johnson because he was the best man for the job, did you?

Dave42 09-06-2023 19:53

Re: Nadine Dorris stands down as MP with immediate effect
 
looks like mad nad spat her dummy out and resigned as her move to lords got blocked and Johnson's dad got blocked too quite rightly so

Chris 09-06-2023 20:11

Re: Boris to join Nadine Dorris on the dole queue
 
Now Bo Jo go goes too …

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65863267

Dave42 09-06-2023 20:12

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
wow 2 utter usless tories MP's gone in same day Johnson must been found guilty in inquiry no shock there

OLD BOY 09-06-2023 20:15

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36153457)
wow 2 utter usless tories MP's gone in same day

You may take a different view after a short period of a Labour government.

Dave42 09-06-2023 20:16

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36153459)
You may take a different view after a short period of a Labour government.

this is worse government ever OB

Hom3r 09-06-2023 20:19

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
It funny how Sue grey and a fellow colleague who both found against Boris, now have jobs with Liebour

Dave42 09-06-2023 20:21

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36153461)
It funny how Sue grey and a fellow colleague who both found against Boris, now have jobs with Liebour

you do know the inquiry had a tory majority dont you

jfman 09-06-2023 20:22

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36153459)
You may take a different view after a short period of a Labour government.

:rofl:

The highest inflation, the biggest drop in living standards, predicted drop in house prices,

I'll take my chances OB over this shower.

Dave42 09-06-2023 20:25

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36153463)
:rofl:

The highest inflation, the biggest drop in living standards, predicted drop in house prices,

I'll take my chances OB over this shower.

you forgot public services totally on there knees too and the gap between super rich and the rest of us never been bigger

jfman 09-06-2023 20:30

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36153465)
you forgot public services totally on there knees too and the gap between super rich and the rest of us never been bigger

Oh if we really wanted to do so, we could indeed be here all night, with OB doing his most glorious Comical Ali impersonation.

1andrew1 09-06-2023 21:07

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36153468)
Oh if we really wanted to do so, we could indeed be here all night, with OB doing his most glorious Comical Ali impersonation.

I'll save him the job.

Other countries have high inflation too/Starmer was more guilty than Johnson/Trade deals with the US and India will happen in X + 5 years/You just need to believe more/Stop talking the country down, you're to blame/Labour-loving Sue Gray is the reason why Johnson resigned/People are just jealous of Mad Nad's book sales.
:D

jfman 09-06-2023 22:34

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36153469)
I'll save him the job.

Other countries have high inflation too/Starmer was more guilty than Johnson/Trade deals with the US and India will happen in X + 5 years/You just need to believe more/Stop talking the country down, you're to blame/Labour-loving Sue Gray is the reason why Johnson resigned/People are just jealous of Mad Nad's book sales.
:D

I have ideas but I think out of respect we should give OB the floor for one evening. It's disappointing I guess. We were so close to greatness, if we ignored reality.

1andrew1 09-06-2023 23:04

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36153470)
I have ideas but I think out of respect we should give OB the floor for one evening. It's disappointing I guess. We were so close to greatness, if we ignored reality.

OB is not rushing to take the floor as all his pro-Johnson rants on Cable Forum did not secure an OBE, whilst Johnson's hairdresser picked one up. Plus he's got a lot of recordings to watch! :D

Hugh 09-06-2023 23:41

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
All joking aside, how bad must the report be, that Johnson felt he had to resign? This, from a man whose default mode is to bluster through and deny everything…

jfman 09-06-2023 23:46

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
He’s probably realised there’s more money to be made elsewhere anyway. The sooner he is out of the Commons the sooner he’s into the Lords.

1andrew1 10-06-2023 00:00

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36153474)
All joking aside, how bad must the report be, that Johnson felt he had to resign? This, from a man whose default mode is to bluster through and deny everything…

Agreed. Presumably the report says he did mislead Parliament on mote than one occasion.

Sephiroth 10-06-2023 09:00

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36153473)
OB is not rushing to take the floor as all his pro-Johnson rants on Cable Forum [COLOR=“Red”]did not secure an OBE[\COLOR], whilst Johnson's hairdresser picked one up. Plus he's got a lot of recordings to watch! :D


That’s a bit harsh, Andrew. We all wanted Boris to succeed but he turned out to be a bumbling liar. OB must be disappointed too. So picking on OB (not just you) is unfair.

1andrew1 10-06-2023 09:24

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36153484)

That’s a bit harsh, Andrew. We all wanted Boris to succeed but he turned out to be a bumbling liar. OB must be disappointed too. So picking on OB (not just you) is unfair.

He was twice sacked for lying before he became PM. In his view he probably has succeeded - hs's been PM , written books, taken the country out of the EU.

Mr K 10-06-2023 09:38

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
The real reason why he's quit:-
Quote:

How Uxbridge & South Ruislip would vote if an election was held today -- Britain Predicts

Lab: 48.3% (+10.7)
Con: 36.8 (-15.8)
https://twitter.com/BritainElects/st...994407446?s=20

To reappear in a safe Con seat after Rishi loses the next election. Then to reappear as leader of the bunch of inbreds. Tbh not sure any Con seat would be safe with him standing.

Hugh 10-06-2023 09:40

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36153484)

That’s a bit harsh, Andrew. We all wanted Boris to succeed but he turned out to be a bumbling liar. OB must be disappointed too. So picking on OB (not just you) is unfair.

I think it’s probably the fact that after almost everyone else realised Johnson is a bumbling liar (and also a lazy adulterous poltroon), OB keeps defending him 100%, and insists everyone else is mistaken, and any evidence to the contrary is a conspiracy.

Sephiroth 10-06-2023 09:49

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 

I have to show some solidarity with my Tory, Wokingham compatriot when you lot pounce on him like he had the verbal pox (and I know what’s coming next from you lot).


---------- Post added at 09:49 ---------- Previous post was at 09:44 ----------


The laugh I had on hearing about Boris’ resignation is that Carrie has been royally stiffed. She married a randy PM with an 80 seat majority and a flat in Downing Street. True, he can earn real money now, but her ability to determine the UK’s future is now zero.

\

Mr K 10-06-2023 09:51

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36153488)

I have to show some solidarity with my Tory, Wokingham compatriot when you lot pounce on him like he had the verbal pox (and I know what’s coming next from you lot).


\

Never mind you'll be rid of him soon...
https://www.bracknellnews.co.uk/news...next-election/

Be all those poxy immigrants moving in I should think.

Sephiroth 10-06-2023 10:21

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That Mr K trawls my local press is a sadness in it’s own right!

jfman 10-06-2023 10:59

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
I’ve got a leaked first draft of his resignation statement.

Quote:

And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids.

ianch99 10-06-2023 12:06

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36153484)

That’s a bit harsh, Andrew. We all wanted Boris to succeed but he turned out to be a bumbling liar. OB must be disappointed too. So picking on OB (not just you) is unfair.

I didn't

Hugh 10-06-2023 12:28

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
from twitter

Quote:

Johnson had a choice 'Leave or Remain' and Johnson chose Leave again as it was better for his career.

GrimUpNorth 10-06-2023 12:53

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36153484)

That’s a bit harsh, Andrew. We all wanted Boris to succeed but he turned out to be a bumbling liar. OB must be disappointed too. So picking on OB (not just you) is unfair.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36153495)
I didn't

I didn't either. I'd have preferred acupuncture with rusty 6" nails. Also it's surprise Seph seems to be feigning surprise about Boris being a bumbling liar, I thought he was better than that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36153494)
I’ve got a leaked first draft of his resignation statement.

You forgot it was the cake what did it.

Sephiroth 10-06-2023 13:20

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36153497)
I didn't either. I'd have preferred acupuncture with rusty 6" nails. Also it's surprise Seph seems to be feigning surprise about Boris being a bumbling liar, I thought he was better than that.



You forgot it was the cake what did it.


Er “… bumbling liar …” - that has been my firmly expressed view on this forum for a very long time, if you care to check.

Chris 10-06-2023 14:24

Re: [Further Update] Now *three* Tory MPs have thrown in the towel
 
Nigel Adams quits with immediate effect.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-65860705

The Tories now face three by-elections on some fateful future date, I’m guessing probably after the summer recess.

Hugh 10-06-2023 14:28

Re: [Further Update] Now *three* Tory MPs have thrown in the towel
 
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2023/06/1.gif

Damien 10-06-2023 14:39

Re: [Further Update] Now *three* Tory MPs have thrown in the towel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36153499)
Nigel Adams quits with immediate effect.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-65860705

The Tories now face three by-elections on some fateful future date, I’m guessing probably after the summer recess.

Even on current polling they should hold two of them. Labour and Lib Dem’s might vote tactically but still.

Anyway this is a third potential troublemaker for Sunak gone. Don’t really think he needs to worry about MPs whose loyalty to Johnson trumps their loyalty to the party or country.

Ms NTL 10-06-2023 15:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36153500)

Did they feed Larry viagra?

Dingbat 10-06-2023 15:52

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36153488)

The laugh I had on hearing about Boris’ resignation is that Carrie has been royally stiffed. She married a randy PM with an 80 seat majority and a flat in Downing Street. True, he can earn real money now, but her ability to determine the UK’s future is now zero.

She will be laughing all the way to the bank, given that she will have a claim on half of the mansion they’ve just bought, as well as half of the millions of “earnings” he’s making on the US speech circuit.

She’s got him right where she wants him.

And then there’s the child support, that he’s an expert in paying…

Sephiroth 10-06-2023 15:57

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36153503)
She will be laughing all the way to the bank, given that she will have a claim on half of the mansion they’ve just bought, as well as half of the millions of “earnings” he’s making on the US speech circuit.

She’s got him right where she wants him.

And then there’s the child support, that he’s an expert in paying…

I'll obviously grant you that. But when she married him, I'll bet the prestige was high on her mind.

jfman 10-06-2023 17:07

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36153504)
I'll obviously grant you that. But when she married him, I'll bet the prestige was high on her mind.

Like a white Meghan Markle.

richard-john56 10-06-2023 17:52

Re: [Further Update] Now *three* Tory MPs have thrown in the towel
 
All I can say is HOORAY I see Bill Cash is not standing at next election.

Sephiroth 10-06-2023 18:04

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36153505)
Like a white Meghan Markle.

It had occurred to me.

Chris 10-06-2023 18:17

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36153505)
Like a white Meghan Markle.

Do you think White Meghan likes to drag her sofa onto the street when the sun comes out?

Ms NTL 10-06-2023 20:56

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36153509)
Do you think White Meghan likes to drag her sofa onto the street when the sun comes out?

:confused:

Paul 11-06-2023 01:01

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ms NTL (Post 36153512)
:confused:

I dont get it either :shrug:

1andrew1 11-06-2023 10:22

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36153517)
I dont get it either :shrug:

Is it a cryptic reference to the Oprah Winfrey TV interview setting from a couple of years ago?

Sephiroth 11-06-2023 10:40

Re: [Update] Boris to join Nadine Dorries on the dole queue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36153509)
Do you think White Meghan likes to drag her sofa onto the street when the sun comes out?


Perhaps “… the street where the sun don’t shine”.

Chris 11-06-2023 10:45

Re: [Further Update] Now *three* Tory MPs have thrown in the towel
 
I guess my pop culture references are 10 years out of date …

White Dee

1andrew1 12-06-2023 11:40

Re: [Further Update] Now *three* Tory MPs have thrown in the towel
 
Read into this what you like. From the Political Editor of The Times, Steven Swinford.
Quote:

Exclusive:

Boris Johnson, Nadine Dorries and Nigel Adams have yet to formally resign

Resigning MPs have to apply to Treasury to become Steward of the Chiltern Hundreds or Bailiff of the Manor of Northstead

Means writ for the three by-elections won't be moved today.
https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/...78929234898944

Chris 12-06-2023 12:06

Re: [Further Update] Now *three* Tory MPs have thrown in the towel
 
I doubt they’d move a by election writ today even if they could. They don’t have to do it for several weeks. And there’s a recall petition underway in Rutherglen & Hamilton West at the moment that is likely to result in Margaret Ferrier getting sacked, requiring a by election that will result in a massive SNP-Labour scrap in Scotland. Orchestrating that by election on the same day as the Tory ones would be the Tories’ best hope of lessening the political hit they will sustain just for these three contests taking place at all.

1andrew1 12-06-2023 12:15

Re: [Further Update] Now *three* Tory MPs have thrown in the towel
 
Two weeks ago, Sky News says Sunak and Johnson met but left with different understandings of the agreement. Johnson thought Sunak had agreed to wave through his nominees whatever Holac said whilst Sunak thought he would agree to whatever Holac recommended.

The list of new peerages did not include eight of Mr Johnson's nominations.
Quote:

Sunak: Boris Johnson 'asked me to do something that I wasn't prepared to do'

Rishi Sunak was asked at London Tech Week about this controversy, and there was a rather uncomfortable pause, with laughter and applause from the audience.

In response to the question of whether his predecessor undermined him, Mr Sunak said: "Boris Johnson asked me to do something that I wasn't prepared to do because I didn't think it was right. That was to either overrule the Holac committee or make promises to people.

"I wasn't prepared to do that. As I said, I didn't think it was right. And if people don't like that, then tough."

He added: "When I got this job, I said I was gonna do things differently because I wanted to change politics, and that's what I'm doing."
https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...ament-12593360

Hugh 12-06-2023 12:56

Re: [Further Update] Now *three* Tory MPs have thrown in the towel
 
Johnson "misunderstanding" something that was to his advantage?

<shocked face>

How bad were the eight that got rejected, when a 29 year old got a peerage?

1andrew1 12-06-2023 13:43

Re: [Further Update] Now *three* Tory MPs have thrown in the towel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36153610)
How bad were the eight that got rejected, when a 29 year old got a peerage?

It doesn't bear thinking about! One was his dad I think.

ianch99 12-06-2023 14:04

Re: [Further Update] Now *three* Tory MPs have thrown in the towel
 
I think the only positive thing that comes of out this is how corrupt & entitled the current "Tory" Party is. They are literally shining a high intensity spotlight on what the Party has become.

Labour are sitting back and applauding ...

Sephiroth 12-06-2023 14:07

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If ever you needed proof of the buffoon’s lack of judgement (and hence suitability for office), nominating one’s dad for elevation is that proof.


Hugh 12-06-2023 14:15

Re: [Further Update] Now *three* Tory MPs have thrown in the towel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36153613)

If ever you needed proof of the buffoon’s lack of judgement (and hence suitability for office), nominating one’s dad for elevation is that proof.


Lest we forget...

Baron Johnson of Marylebone

A just reward for his nine years in Parliament...

1andrew1 12-06-2023 15:25

Re: [Further Update] Now *three* Tory MPs have thrown in the towel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36153613)

If ever you needed proof of the buffoon’s lack of judgement (and hence suitability for office), nominating one’s dad for elevation is that proof.

Never underestimate Johnson. You don't become a PM by being a buffoon even if you pretend to be one.

Could it be that his father and the other seven are in the mix so that the Committee throws them out? In doing so, it might make it makes it harder to throw the others out like the 29-year-old intern.

jfman 12-06-2023 19:30

Re: [Further Update] Now *three* Tory MPs have thrown in the towel
 
He has officially resigned. Sunak sources claim they’d block his return as an MP.

And so ends one of the most embarrassing episodes of British political history. Without irony, ITV News just ran a piece on the death of Berlusconi with faux outrage at points acting as if that type of leader oozing cronyism and corruption couldn’t happen here.

In a way you can’t really blame Johnson, he’s acted entirely rational and with self-interest throughout. His allies rail against the “Establishment” without irony, when if it wasn’t for that establishment, what school he went to, what university he went to, he’d be absolutely no-one. No newspaper columns, so puff pieces on the state broadcaster about the affable buffoon on Have I Got News for You.

1andrew1 12-06-2023 19:45

Re: [Further Update] Now *three* Tory MPs have thrown in the towel
 
1 Attachment(s)
Q. Siri, what does a banana republic look like?
A. Will this cleared nomination to the House of Lords do?

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1686595436

Mr K 12-06-2023 19:51

Re: [Further Update] Now *three* Tory MPs have thrown in the towel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36153631)
He has officially resigned. Sunak sources claim they’d block his return as an MP.

And so ends one of the most embarrassing episodes of British political history. Without irony, ITV News just ran a piece on the death of Berlusconi with faux outrage at points acting as if that type of leader oozing cronyism and corruption couldn’t happen here.

In a way you can’t really blame Johnson, he’s acted entirely rational and with self-interest throughout. His allies rail against the “Establishment” without irony, when if it wasn’t for that establishment, what school he went to, what university he went to, he’d be absolutely no-one. No newspaper columns, so puff pieces on the state broadcaster about the affable buffoon on Have I Got News for You.

I do blame him. He's single handedly screwed the country, with his 'getting things done'. But he and his few knighthooded buddies will be all right. The rest of the riff raff can do one as far as he's concerned.

Buck stops with the electorate, they voted for this fraud and they must now take the consequences, for decades. Those that didn't and saw through him, bad luck.

jfman 12-06-2023 21:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36153634)
I do blame him. He's single handedly screwed the country, with his 'getting things done'. But he and his few knighthooded buddies will be all right. The rest of the riff raff can do one as far as he's concerned.

Buck stops with the electorate, they voted for this fraud and they must now take the consequences, for decades. Those that didn't and saw through him, bad luck.

He didn’t do it single handedly - there’s no reason to give him credit he doesn’t deserve. He served his paymasters at the Telegraph, friends who orchestrate loans for him because he’s a financial risk, and potentially foreign intelligence services well as their puppet. Not to mention the dark money that flows through the Conservative Party coffers.

The country is indeed screwed, however that goes back decades of economic mismanagement, generating inequality and the circumstances that made it easy for Johnson to rise up.

If you want to blame one man for Brexit you might as well blame Nick Clegg. That idiot tipped the first domino.

Ms NTL 12-06-2023 23:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36153613)

If ever you needed proof of the buffoon’s lack of judgement (and hence suitability for office), nominating one’s dad for elevation is that proof.


He was already elevated, he is my co-patriot frog now!

"Sir frog daddy Johnson" he was just taking the piss.

Dave42 12-06-2023 23:58

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Quote:

Privileges Committee has found Boris Johnson knowingly misled Commons after rejecting central defence

MPs found no evidence to back his claim he was assured by officials that Covid guidance had not been breached - in fact they found opposite

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/...69969317281795

what a shock NOTTTTTTTTTTTT

1andrew1 13-06-2023 00:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36153642)

For many but not all on this Forum, it was not a surprise. The question is can he be penalised or is it just his reputation that takes a well-deserved hit?

Mr K 13-06-2023 07:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36153645)
For many but not all on this Forum, it was not a surprise. The question is can he be penalised or is it just his reputation that takes a well-deserved hit?

Thing is the people that worship the likes of Boris and Trump, will see this as a badge of honour.

To many voters lying is clever, denial and personality is everything. Blame everything on 'the Blob', 'Big state' etc with no evidence , they'll love it.

I'm all for an IQ test before you're allowed to vote.

Maggy 13-06-2023 07:52

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Has anyone got the perfect Shakespeare quote about Boris?

OLD BOY 13-06-2023 08:31

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What is past is prologue.

He’ll be back, he hints….

Hugh 13-06-2023 08:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36153658)
What is past is prologue.

He’ll be back, he hints….

In the Strangers Bar…

Sephiroth 13-06-2023 09:06

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"I will praise any man that will praise me."

(Antony & Cleopatra)

Hugh 13-06-2023 09:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36153656)
Has anyone got the perfect Shakespeare quote about Boris?

"Neither a borrower nor a lender be."

"And oftentimes excusing of a fault doth make the fault the worse by the excuse."

"Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more; it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

"One may smile, and smile, be a villain."

"I am one who loved not wisely but too well."

"Don't waste your love on somebody, who doesn't value it."

And my favourite...

"I dote on his very absence."

Sephiroth 13-06-2023 09:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36153662)
<SNIP>

"Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more; it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

<SNIP>

Very good.

Mr K 13-06-2023 09:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36153656)
Has anyone got the perfect Shakespeare quote about Boris?

'Infamy, infamy , they've all got it in for me ! '

( sorry, maybe that was the Carry On version Shakespeare's prose...)

1andrew1 13-06-2023 11:24

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"Look like the innocent flower but be the Serpent underneath it" (Macbeth)

TheDaddy 13-06-2023 14:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36153662)
"Neither a borrower nor a lender be."

well at least not a lender, sounds like something a tv spiv would say but seeing as I can find no reference looks like it's one of mine!

Moving on to the bard isn't there something in The Tempest about take me to the party and Titus Andronicas about the ambush of our friends being strong

1andrew1 13-06-2023 18:37

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Not sure what he's trying to achieve here? Is it a last-minute damage limitation exercise?
Quote:

Boris Johnson has made eleventh-hour representations to the privileges committee before it publishes a report which is expected to find that he deliberately misled parliament.

A spokesman for the inquiry said it was "dealing with" further submissions received from the former prime minister at 11.57pm on Monday.

It came as the panel of MPs examining claims that Mr Johnson lied to parliament over "partygate" met to conclude its investigation.
https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...ittee-12901862

jfman 13-06-2023 18:41

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He’s just being awkward because he can.

Dave42 13-06-2023 19:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36153696)
Not sure what he's trying to achieve here? Is it a last-minute damage limitation exercise?

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...ittee-12901862

probably trying to delay they publishing report he knows he banged to rights and the vast majority of public know it

1andrew1 13-06-2023 19:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36153698)
probably trying to delay they publishing report he knows he banged to rights and the vast majority of public know it

Indeed. The feeble minded will find no cake crumbs of comfort here. The rest of us understand that the issue is not cake but misleading Parliament. It's pretty obvious what the Conservative-dominated investigation has established. ;)

pip08456 13-06-2023 19:40

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What does it matter now he's resigned as an MP? I'm fed up of hearing about it and have moved on. I suggest others do the same.

Hugh 13-06-2023 19:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36153704)
What does it matter now he's resigned as an MP? I'm fed up of hearing about it and have moved on. I suggest others do the same.

It matters because it sets precedents and limitations on behaviours that breach the Rules of the House of Commons.

Dave42 13-06-2023 20:29

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Quote:

Nadine Dorries has still not formally resigned as a Tory MP

The Conservative Party will move two writs for Boris Johnson and Nigel Adams' seats for by-elections tomorrow
https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/...69431004770315

Mr K 13-06-2023 20:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36153704)
What does it matter now he's resigned as an MP? I'm fed up of hearing about it and have moved on. I suggest others do the same.

Including Boris? If only...
He's made it very clear he's coming back, prob after the next election when the Tories are desperate in opposition and will grab at anything, even it means falling further into the gutter. He just needs a safe seat, not sure there will be many of those with him standing.

jfman 13-06-2023 20:50

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The search term “Corbyn” appears 200 times in the last 2 years If I generously concede 10% of those references to non-Jeremy’s it points towards the British public having very long memories and being slow to move on.

I’m quite happy to keep going about Boris as he is the personification or corruption and cronyism in the Conservative Party regardless of whether he holds elected office.

1andrew1 13-06-2023 22:06

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Nadine Dorries still hasn't resigned. Is she staying on so that the by-election occurs in September to create maximum inconvenience for Sunak? Or has she had a re-think about quitting?

Chris 13-06-2023 22:54

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Probably re-thinking quitting. She has minimal influence over the by-election timetable.

I think there will be 4 by elections in October (assuming she does quit) - the three Tories, plus Rutherglen & Hamilton West if the recall petition succeeds.

Chris 14-06-2023 09:48

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Looks like the Tories are in a hurry after all … the most likely by-election date is 20 July. However, Mad Nads as of this morning still hasn’t actually quit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65898515

1andrew1 14-06-2023 09:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36153738)
Looks like the Tories are in a hurry after all … the most likely by-election date is 20 July. However, Mad Nads as of this morning still hasn’t actually quit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65898515

Yes, if I was Sunak I'd want the by-elections out of the way asap so I can put the ghost of Johnson behind me and focus on the next general election and fighting Starmer and not internal battles.

Damien 14-06-2023 11:02

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I kind of feel sorry for Dorries. Not a fan of hers and don't think she deserves a peerage but to get hers blocked after being an MP for 18 years and a cabinet member for a lot of that when a 29-year-old 18-month advisor to Johnson gets one must be a slap in the face.

1andrew1 14-06-2023 11:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36153744)
I kind of feel sorry for Dorries. Not a fan of hers and don't think she deserves a peerage but to get hers blocked after being an MP for 18 years and a cabinet member for a lot of that when a 29-year-old 18-month advisor to Johnson gets one must be a slap in the face.

If she had said this then I would have felt sorry for her. However, she said the decision showed working class people could not get into the Lords.

jfman 14-06-2023 13:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36153744)
I kind of feel sorry for Dorries. Not a fan of hers and don't think she deserves a peerage but to get hers blocked after being an MP for 18 years and a cabinet member for a lot of that when a 29-year-old 18-month advisor to Johnson gets one must be a slap in the face.

Obviously the Committee saw something we’ve not re: Dorries.

The whole process is entirely undeserving and a joke in a 21st century democracy. I don’t see why I 29 year old person of a limited skillset and experience should be excluded from the gravy train.

ianch99 14-06-2023 13:33

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The most sordid part of this whole grubby process is that these are very same people who said we had to Leave to rid ourselves of unelected bureaucrats.

Hugh 14-06-2023 14:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36153744)
I kind of feel sorry for Dorries. Not a fan of hers and don't think she deserves a peerage but to get hers blocked after being an MP for 18 years and a cabinet member for a lot of that when a 29-year-old 18-month advisor to Johnson gets one must be a slap in the face.

She was a Cabinet member for one year - her previous position was not Cabinet Level (Minister for Patient Safety, Suicide Prevention and Mental Health (2019–2021)).

1andrew1 14-06-2023 15:06

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Ouch!
Quote:

No 10 has criticised Nadine Dorries for delaying her resignation.

At the post-PMQs lobby briefing, asked about Dorries not yet formally resigning her seat, Rishi Sunak’s press secretary said:

It’s obviously unusual to have an MP say they will resign with immediate effect and for that not to take place. The prime minister believes the people of Mid Bedfordshire deserve proper representation in this house and he looks forward to campaigning for the Conservative candidate in the byelection.

Asked if that meant Dorries’ constituents were not currently being served properly, the spokesperson said:

The prime minister believes that it’s important that they have certainty.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...0834349c1d6517

Dave42 14-06-2023 15:19

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Quote:

The Privileges Committee will publish its report into Boris Johnson tomorrow. It is around 30,000 words long&is expected to be published at around 9am.
https://twitter.com/ChrisMasonBBC/st...85870752309255

jfman 14-06-2023 20:44

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ttee-to-resign

Fair play to Boris here. Not satisfied with trashing his own reputation, the economy, and Britain’s standing on a global stage he’s decided he might as well take the Conservative Party down with him.

Delicious.

1andrew1 15-06-2023 00:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36153784)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ttee-to-resign

Fair play to Boris here. Not satisfied with trashing his own reputation, the economy, and Britain’s standing on a global stage he’s decided he might as well take the Conservative Party down with him.

Delicious.

Just the usual dead cat technique going on here.

Chris 17-06-2023 23:07

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And another one gone
And another one gone
Another one bites the dust …

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65941710

Quote:

A Conservative MP who was suspended following allegations of sexual misconduct has resigned.
David Warburton, who represents Somerton and Frome in Somerset, is the fourth MP from his party to quit in the past eight days.

Ms NTL 18-06-2023 01:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36154047)
And another one gone
And another one gone
Another one bites the dust …

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65941710



Cocaine and just 3 women?

Come on Michael Gove, you easily better that!

Maggy 18-06-2023 09:41

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Wow!Anyone seen the Laura Kuensberg interview with Gove.What a weasel he is..


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