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Chris 24-04-2023 17:35
Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
The Trumpites’ MAGA cheerleader-in-chief, Tucker Carlson, has left Fox ‘news’ with immediate effect. His last show, according to the network, was last Friday night. They’re not even giving him a final show as a goodbye. We will all have to draw our own conclusions as to how mutually agreed this arrangement was, and the extent to which Carlson’s tell-em-what-they-want-to-hear approach (as revealed by text messages given in evidence at the Dominion libel trial) has led to his downfall.

While his impact on British public life is negligible, limited perhaps to giving one or two people at GB ‘News’ ideas, I suspect the overall health of Western democracy has been fractionally improved by removing him from America’s most watched news channel.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65379340

Hugh 24-04-2023 19:03
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
Tucker Carlson was previously fired from CNN and MSNBC.

His dismissal from Fox makes him the first anchor to be fired from all three cable networks…

Pierre 24-04-2023 19:16
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
He had the top rated show on all of cable news (so I believe, I haven’t fact checked it), so a very bold move by Fox.

I suspect a further story coming soon?

Damien 24-04-2023 19:39
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36150534)
He had the top rated show on all of cable news (so I believe, I haven’t fact checked it), so a very bold move by Fox.

I suspect a further story coming soon?
Speculation includes a Presidental run.

But this could also be because of the lawsuit from Dominion over the election claims which Fox News settled for a massive amount. He may be their highest-rating TV host but he may also have been seen as a liability. The fact Dominion had e-mails showing that privately he didn't like Trump and knew the claims were bogus probably didn't help.

Chris 24-04-2023 21:34
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
1 Attachment(s)
In today’s edition of You Couldn’t Make It Up, Vladimir Soloviev wants Tucker to come and work for his propaganda operation in Moscow.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1682368447

pip08456 24-04-2023 23:46
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
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He was set to be one of Dominion’s first witnesses to testify at trial,
Could this be the reason?

Chris 25-04-2023 07:51
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36150552)
Could this be the reason?
Pretty much guaranteed. The text messages Dominion got hold of ahead of the hearing pretty much prove Carlson was more interested in Fox ratings and stock price and was prepared to say anything on air in pursuit of them - including things that were opposite to his belief (apparently he actually hates Donald Trump) and things he knew were untrue (The election wasn’t stolen; Dominion voting machines weren’t fraudulent or faulty).

He may not have been personally responsible for the entire mess but he’s senior enough and influential enough to have been highly complicit and to be able to act as the sacrificial lamb. I don’t know how high up the decision to sack him was taken but it does have a whiff of the News of the World about it, and it was the man himself who decided that needed to close in order to protect the empire.

---------- Post added at 07:51 ---------- Previous post was at 07:25 ----------

Specctator U.S. gossip column is now saying as much: https://thespectator.com/topic/tucke...upert-murdoch/

ianch99 26-04-2023 11:03
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
Not sure if this is just trolling but RT briefly tweeted a welcome message "We are happy to have Tucker Carlson on our team". Very appropriate that he could end up finally as Putin's (official) puppet.

Damien 26-04-2023 17:22
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
It's obviously trolling. Pretty sure sanctions would prevent him from being paid, even if he didn't he is better as a useful idiot for them trotting out their talking points without being paid.

He'll do better going to an online right-wing news platform like Rumble or The Daily Wire alternatively building his own platform.

Mick 27-04-2023 17:10
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36150519)
The Trumpites’ MAGA cheerleader-in-chief, Tucker Carlson, has left Fox ‘news’ with immediate effect. His last show, according to the network, was last Friday night. They’re not even giving him a final show as a goodbye. We will all have to draw our own conclusions as to how mutually agreed this arrangement was, and the extent to which Carlson’s tell-em-what-they-want-to-hear approach (as revealed by text messages given in evidence at the Dominion libel trial) has led to his downfall.

While his impact on British public life is negligible, limited perhaps to giving one or two people at GB ‘News’ ideas, I suspect the overall health of Western democracy has been fractionally improved by removing him from America’s most watched news channel.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65379340
Like hell it has, he will be taken up by some other network in the U.S. He had a huge audience, more fool Fox and Murdoch for getting rid of him which cost them more in market value on removing him, than their settlement figure with Dominion. I also believe Fox News audience fell dramatically on his replacement.

Itshim 27-04-2023 17:30
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36150678)
Like hell it has, he will be taken up by some other network in the U.S. He had a huge audience, more fool Fox and Murdoch for getting rid of him which cost them more in market value on removing him, than their settlement figure with Dominion. I also believe Fox News audience fell dramatically on his replacement.
Sure you are right :D

Chris 27-04-2023 17:59
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36150678)
Like hell it has, he will be taken up by some other network in the U.S. He had a huge audience, more fool Fox and Murdoch for getting rid of him which cost them more in market value on removing him, than their settlement figure with Dominion. I also believe Fox News audience fell dramatically on his replacement.
His problem is thanks to the text messages being published, it’s now fairly clear he doesn’t like Trump and never really believed the Dominion machines were rigged. It’s hard to see any of the other right wing networks taking him on.

Canning him certainly did cost Fox a pretty penny but they have form for lancing the boil in this way. News of the World was ruthlessly terminated when it threatened to poison the family brand, despite being the UK’s top selling Sunday paper. The Murdoch family, and Fox itself, are sitting on a massive cash pile and can afford to take drastic action like this and then hope to ride out the storm.

In any case, they have another libel case coming up and may hope to persuade everyone that they are already getting their house in order by getting rid of the person most associated with the contended claims.

1andrew1 27-04-2023 22:13
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36150678)
Like hell it has, he will be taken up by some other network in the U.S. He had a huge audience, more fool Fox and Murdoch for getting rid of him which cost them more in market value on removing him, than their settlement figure with Dominion. I also believe Fox News audience fell dramatically on his replacement.
He thought he was bigger than Fox News. The Murdochs don't work that way. No one is indispensable to them and no one is bigger than their brands.

He's tarnished goods. No important US broadcaster will rush to sign him anytime soon.

Mr K 27-04-2023 22:29
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36150685)
He thought he was bigger than Fox News. The Murdochs don't work that way. No one is indispensable to them and no one is bigger than their brands.

He's tarnished goods. No important US broadcaster will rush to sign him anytime soon.
Yeah but he's a shoe in for President . The US electorate are bonkers, hence their choices of leader in recent years.

1andrew1 27-04-2023 22:36
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36150687)
Yeah but he's a shoe in for President . The US electorate are bonkers, hence their choices of leader in recent years.
Too young to be President right now. ;)

Pierre 28-04-2023 09:14
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36150685)
He thought he was bigger than Fox News.
He probably is. If he went on his own and set up his own Channel on Twitter, Rumble, Blaze (I doubt you tube would have him), he probably get a bigger audience and make more money

Damien 28-04-2023 11:14
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36150695)
He probably is. If he went on his own and set up his own Channel on Twitter, Rumble, Blaze (I doubt you tube would have him), he probably get a bigger audience and make more money
Glen Beck left Fox News and set up Blaze and his profile declined. I think it depends how much of a younger audience Tucker actually has but he'll make money either way.

The only question is how far will he go on his show? Fox News was one of the few outlets that could afford the kind of settlements they're paying out. Will a new outlet be willing to underscore the risk?

1andrew1 28-04-2023 11:44
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36150695)
He probably is. If he went on his own and set up his own Channel on Twitter, Rumble, Blaze (I doubt you tube would have him), he probably get a bigger audience and make more money
I can't see how he can get a larger audience than being on Fox News - it's the US market leader and has a linear channel as well as apps and a hefty marketing budget.

If Twitter, Rumble and Blaze were the ways to increase viewing numbers and income then why would there be anyone left commentating for Fox News and CNN?

Pierre 28-04-2023 13:34
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36150709)
I can't see how he can get a larger audience than being on Fox News - it's the US market leader and has a linear channel as well as apps and a hefty marketing budget.
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/st...76097349578753
This video he posted yesterday currently stands at 72.8 million views.

On Fox he averaged just over 3 million.

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If Twitter, Rumble and Blaze were the ways to increase viewing numbers and income then why would there be anyone left commentating for Fox News and CNN?
You still need to be popular to command an audience. It's unlikely Don Lemon would command an audience via a alternative medium.

Some people will refuse to watch certain channels out of principal, but if Carlsons video pops up in your Social Media feed, multiple times, chances are you'll watch it, or a portion of it.

1andrew1 28-04-2023 19:21
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36150720)
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/st...76097349578753
This video he posted yesterday currently stands at 72.8 million views.

On Fox he averaged just over 3 million.
Impressive.

I wonder whether he can sustain 3m viewers in a year's time and make similar money without News Corp behind him. Or if this video is more about the novelty factor and people are just curious to hear his side of his sacking.

ianch99 29-04-2023 10:49
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36150742)
Impressive.

I wonder whether he can sustain 3m viewers in a year's time and make similar money without News Corp behind him. Or if this video is more about the novelty factor and people are just curious to hear his side of his sacking.
To be fair, YouTube impressions are hardly a barometer of greatness. I mean "Charlie Bit My Finger" got 900 million :D

Pierre 29-04-2023 23:50
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36150771)
To be fair, YouTube impressions are hardly a barometer of greatness. I mean "Charlie Bit My Finger" got 900 million :D
It wasn’t you tube.

ianch99 30-04-2023 15:10
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36150816)
It wasn’t you tube.
Sorry, Social Media impressions. Very important difference ...

Hugh 08-06-2023 11:57
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
https://www.axios.com/2023/06/07/fox...ontract-breach

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Fox News says Tucker Carlson breached his contract

Fox News Wednesday notified Tucker Carlson's lawyers that the former prime-time anchor violated his contract with the network when he launched his own Twitter show on Tuesday, according to a copy of a letter obtained by Axios.

Why it matters: A breach of contract claim sets Fox News up to explore potential legal action against Carlson, a move that would intensify the already thorny public battle between the two parties.

Carlson’s lawyers told Axios that any legal action by Fox would violate his First Amendment rights.

“Fox defends its very existence on freedom of speech grounds. Now they want to take Tucker Carlson’s right to speak freely away from him because he took to social media to share his thoughts on current events," said Carlson's lawyer, Bryan Freedman, in a statement to Axios…

… Details: Shortly after Carlson posted the first episode of his new show on Twitter Tuesday evening, Fox News general counsel Bernard Gugar sent a letter to Carlson’s lawyers saying Carlson "is in breach" of his contract agreement.

"In connection with such breach and pursuant to the Agreement, Fox expressly reserves all rights and remedies which are available to it at law or equity.”

The letter refers to Carlson's contract, which was originally signed on November 8, 2019 and amended on February 16, 2021.

"This evening we were made aware of Mr. Tucker Carlson’s appearance on Twitter in a video that lasted over 10 minutes," the letter read.

"Pursuant to the terms of the Agreement, Mr. Carlson’s 'services shall be completely exclusive to Fox,'" it continues, quoting Carlson's contract.

It adds that Carlson's contract says he is "prohibited from rendering services of any type whatsoever, whether 'over the internet via streaming or similar distribution, or other digital distribution whether now known or hereafter devised.'"

Pierre 08-06-2023 19:41
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36153402)
Shambolic by Fox.

Chris 08-06-2023 19:47
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
If his Twitter project is his own personal thing then he’s right, Fox can’t deny him his constitutional right to free speech - more’s the pity, given how utterly odious his speech is. If he’s found to be working for someone* however, then any ‘no competition’ clause could well come into play.

*Apart from the Russian state, which I think is a given at this point.

1andrew1 08-06-2023 21:33
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36153410)
Shambolic by Fox.
They must think that Putin's useful (American) idiot has a case to answer. I guess it all depends on the contract between the two parties, which we've obviously not seen.

Damien 08-06-2023 22:02
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
Fight Fight Fight!

Paul 08-06-2023 22:30
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
Am I the only one with no clue who "Tucker Carlson" is ?

Ms NTL 08-06-2023 22:41
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36153422)
Am I the only one with no clue who "Tucker Carlson" is ?
count me in.

Maggy 08-06-2023 22:49
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36153422)
Am I the only one with no clue who "Tucker Carlson" is ?
You’re missing nothing so don’t worry about it.

Chris 08-06-2023 22:54
Re: Tucker Carlson and Fox ‘News’ part ways …
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36153422)
Am I the only one with no clue who "Tucker Carlson" is ?
You’re definitely a lucky one … :D


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