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entseo 02-02-2023 22:20

How Can I Pay You with All Possibilities Impossible?
 
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Hello,

It just occurs to me that, if I suddenly have a cash flow problem and I find that my Virgin Media services are "restricted", then I will not be able to pay Virgin Media by any means.

Previously I was able to use my phone. But now that my phone has to go through my home hub that facility will be lost to me.

But VM has now dropped their phone payment facility. And VM's online payment system is impossible to use because VM has cunningly covered the card payment field with a thick black line!

I took a screenshot of this interesting but incredibly idiotic phenomenon so that I could show you, but I am unable to upload it here because you can only attach images which are external URLs. Another brilliant own goal for VM!

Ah! By jumping through several hoops I'm now able to upload the screenshot.

So how am I meant to pay you if my services are "restricted"?

:td: :dunce:

newapollo 02-02-2023 23:53

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Hi entseo,
The automated payment line on 0800 064 3777 is still available 24/7.

Just make sure you have your account number and area reference number to hand

RichardCoulter 03-02-2023 01:32

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Originally Posted by newapollo (Post 36145090)
Hi entseo,
The automated payment line on 0800 064 3777 is still available 24/7.

Just make sure you have your account number and area reference number to hand

But if Virgin have cut off the broadband and the persons landline has been transferred to VOIP, even free 0800 numbers won't work now!

Mr K 03-02-2023 07:48

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A phone service totally reliant on broadband is a crap downgraded service. How do you phone them up if your broadband doesn't work?

Jaymoss 03-02-2023 09:49

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36145093)
But if Virgin have cut off the broadband and the persons landline has been transferred to VOIP, even free 0800 numbers won't work now!

can use a mobile or even a payphone

Paul 03-02-2023 14:21

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Originally Posted by entseo (Post 36145086)
I took a screenshot of this interesting but incredibly idiotic phenomenon so that I could show you, but I am unable to upload it here because you can only attach images which are external URLs. Another brilliant own goal for VM!

Ummm, we are not VM, also, you uploaded it anyway. :confused:
Looks to me like its probably a browser issue, you should probably just try another.

RichardCoulter 04-02-2023 00:04

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36145109)
can use a mobile or even a payphone

Not everyone has a mobile though and some people are housebound.

Most phone boxes in our area have been removed due to lack of use. I believe that BT is to convert the last remaining one into some sort of a hub where phone calls & the internet can be accessed for free!

Paul 04-02-2023 00:28

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36145150)
Not everyone has a mobile though and some people are housebound.

The vast majority have a mobile, and if you're housebound, you should get one.

RichardCoulter 04-02-2023 02:50

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36145151)
The vast majority have a mobile, and if you're housebound, you should get one.

Yes, it would be prudent to do so if this is affordable and the property is able to get a mobile signal.

Chris 04-02-2023 17:23

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36145153)
Yes, it would be prudent to do so if this is affordable and the property is able to get a mobile signal.

Where do you live, 1995?

A very basic emergency handset and a pay as you go sim should cost £20 at most. And there are very, very few places in the country now where there is no mobile signal on any network, even near a window.

RichardCoulter 04-02-2023 17:31

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36145182)
Where do you live, 1995?

A very basic emergency handset and a pay as you go sim should cost £20 at most. And there are very, very few places in the country now where there is no mobile signal on any network, even near a window.

We can afford £20, but not everyone can.

spiderplant 04-02-2023 17:56

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Originally Posted by entseo (Post 36145086)
Previously I was able to use my phone. But now that my phone has to go through my home hub that facility will be lost to me.

When your account is restricted, your phone gets the same access through the hub as it would if it was still a separate line.

Paul 04-02-2023 20:06

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36145183)
We can afford £20, but not everyone can.

If you're "housebound", then you'll find a way to afford it, how do you think they afford a landline ?

RichardCoulter 05-02-2023 10:45

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36145187)
If you're "housebound", then you'll find a way to afford it, how do you think they afford a landline ?

There's currently a cost of living crisis. Some people are having to choose between heating or eating.

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36145184)
When your account is restricted, your phone gets the same access through the hub as it would if it was still a separate line.

Do they cut off the internet when it's a restricted account though?

Itshim 05-02-2023 12:14

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36145187)
If you're "housebound", then you'll find a way to afford it, how do you think they afford a landline ?

No choice with most virgin contracts, and you end up paying even if you don't want/need it !

Paul 05-02-2023 15:28

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36145201)
There's currently a cost of living crisis. Some people are having to choose between heating or eating.

Try not to be a smart ass for once, thats irrelevant to this topic.
We were talking about people who have a landline that would no longer function if their broadband (which they also have) failed.

Chris 05-02-2023 18:46

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36145231)
Try not to be a smart ass for once, thats irrelevant to this topic.
We were talking about people who have a landline that would no longer function if their broadband (which they also have) failed.

Side issue but if you have BT Full Fibre with a ‘landline’ you no longer actually have a landline at all, but a VOIP service delivered via the router and a cordless wifi handset. So it no longer works in a power cut, or if the internet service goes down.

Having said that, if you’re classed as vulnerable they provide you with a battery back-up for the router, so it can do what the telephone exchange used to do and ensure continuity of service in a power cut. And in the event of the fibre broadband going down it switches to 4G.

spiderplant 05-02-2023 20:48

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36145201)
Do they cut off the internet when it's a restricted account though?

Yes

RichardCoulter 05-02-2023 23:28

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Thanks. So, if an account is restricted and the internet goes off, would the battery back up system that Chris mentioned work in an emergency or to contact Virgin (or any provider for that matter) to sort things out?

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36145231)
Try not to be a smart ass for once, thats irrelevant to this topic.
We were talking about people who have a landline that would no longer function if their broadband (which they also have) failed.

I was explaining that there are many people (especially right now) who simply don't have £20 to spare to buy even a cheap mobile phone.

Paul 06-02-2023 03:41

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36145259)
I was explaining that there are many people (especially right now) who simply don't have £20 to spare to buy even a cheap mobile phone.

I know what you were explaining [and its still irrelevant]. Just keep digging that hole. :dig:

spiderplant 06-02-2023 15:24

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36145259)
Thanks. So, if an account is restricted and the internet goes off, would the battery back up system that Chris mentioned work in an emergency or to contact Virgin (or any provider for that matter) to sort things out?

With VM, the internet goes off but the phone connection stays working. I'd imagine the same is true for all other ISPs.


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