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Chris 04-01-2023 18:28

Republican Congressmen can’t agree a speaker
 
Bizarre scenes in the US of A where about 20 MAGA Republican congressmen have decided to derail the process of electing a new speaker. The party’s preferred candidate is Kevin McCarthy but their majority in the house isn’t big enough for him to get the job unless at least some of the dissenters decide to stop mucking about and vote for him.

With stunning lack of self awareness, their preferred rebel candidate in the *fourth* unsuccessful round of votes today was Byron Donalds, a Trump fan and 2021 election denier.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...anada-64153397

Hugh 04-01-2023 18:49

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The third vote yesterday was even more bizarre.

After Jim Jordan nominated Kevin McCarthy to be Speaker, he (Jim Jordan) was then nominated (over his own objections) by Texas Congressman Chip Roy.

Itshim 04-01-2023 19:13

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Rumor being spoken of in local golf club is that Donald Trump , could be àked to stand ! In case people didn't know you do not need to be a member to be speaker

Damien 04-01-2023 19:17

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This is a consequence of the poor Republican performance in the mid-terms, wafer-thin majority. The MAGA Republicans were always going to cause trouble.

What's crazy is that they had already got concessions but they just want to cause disruption anyway, no goal other than destruction.

Mr K 04-01-2023 19:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36143130)
Rumor being spoken of in local golf club is that Donald Trump , could be àked to stand ! In case people didn't know you do not need to be a member to be speaker

Yes your Golf club will have its finger on the pulse....
In that case I nominate Daffy Duck , nothing to say poultry can't be speaker either. Daffy's time has come.

Itshim 04-01-2023 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36143132)
Yes your Golf club will have its finger on the pulse....
In that case I nominate Daffy Duck , nothing to say poultry can't be speaker either. Daffy's time has come.

Probably do , many local big noises , councilors , at least two mayor's local republican supporter's , and quite a few red baseball cap wearers with deep pockets , all are members:p:

Mr K 04-01-2023 19:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36143136)
Probably do , many local big noises , councilors , at least two mayor's local republican supporter's , and quite a few red baseball cap wearers with deep pockets , all are members:p:

Donny would be bored senseless as speaker, he's need a tivo/tv on his desk. Plus a video golf game. Plus some acquiescent young ladies... And unlimited cola, plus Maccy Ds...

Hugh 04-01-2023 20:47

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Now on the sixth vote

https://wapo.st/3GeeTZD

Update - lost that one as well…

https://media.tenor.com/d3eHtOmgztMA...ready-dead.gif

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36143130)
Rumor being spoken of in local golf club is that Donald Trump , could be àked to stand ! In case people didn't know you do not need to be a member to be speaker

If it's a golf club in Florida, that's probably a given - they'd elect him Pope...

Ramrod 04-01-2023 21:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36143122)
Bizarre scenes in the US of A where about 20 MAGA Republican congressmen have decided to derail the process of electing a new speaker. The party’s preferred candidate is Kevin McCarthy but their majority in the house isn’t big enough for him to get the job unless at least some of the dissenters decide to stop mucking about and vote for him.

Apparently, he's a RINO, so that's why they won't vote for him.

Hugh 04-01-2023 22:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 36143145)
Apparently, he's a RINO, so that's why they won't vote for him.

Well, 20 of them think that, and 200 don’t.

Or does that mean the 200 are RINOs too, and the 20 are the only true Republicans?

Oh, and Trump has said they should support McCarthy - does that make him a RINO?

I think their "logic" may not be consistent…

1andrew1 04-01-2023 22:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 36143145)
Apparently, he's a RINO, so that's why they won't vote for him.

It's clearly a fractured Party. Enough Republicans feel he is sufficiently Republican to have nominated him.

Chris 04-01-2023 22:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 36143145)
Apparently, he's a RINO, so that's why they won't vote for him.

So around 20 elected members of the Republican Party get to determine who’s Republican In Name Only, and ought to be given more credence than around 200 elected members of the Republican Party who have been content to vote for McCarthy?

Such is life in the alt-reality these utter numpties inhabit I guess. :shrug:

tweetiepooh 05-01-2023 10:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36143132)
Yes your Golf club will have its finger on the pulse....
In that case I nominate Daffy Duck , nothing to say poultry can't be speaker either. Daffy's time has come.

How about Steam Boat Willie - at least he'd see things in black and white.

Hugh 05-01-2023 21:39

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And on we go, again and again…

https://wapo.st/3GceKpG

Quote:

House deadlocked as McCarthy fails again, loses ninth vote for speaker

Republican leader Kevin McCarthy’s ninth failed vote for speaker ensures the House will surpass the number of ballots cast a century ago. McCarthy has offered fresh concessions as he and his allies negotiate with GOP defectors who have denied him a majority vote in the chamber. The compromises, however, have failed to move his foes, sending him to defeat on a third day of voting.

No other business in the House can proceed without a speaker. The last time a speaker election took more than one ballot was in 1923, when Speaker Frederick Gillett (R-Mass.) was reelected on the ninth ballot.

Damien 05-01-2023 21:58

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At some point do the Democrats weigh in and put their fingers on the scales for McCarthy or someone else?

Ramrod 05-01-2023 22:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36143217)
At some point do the Democrats weigh in and put their fingers on the scales for McCarthy or someone else?

Why would the Democrats put their fingers on the scales for a Republican? :confused:

Chris 05-01-2023 23:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 36143225)
Why would the Democrats put their fingers on the scales for a Republican? :confused:

They could present themselves as the reasonable ones getting America moving. They could negotiate concessions of their own. They might simply want to twist the knife in the MAGA tendency’s twitching corpse. Any number of political reasons really.

Given that McCarthy was quite rude about the Dems in the previous session, if they wanted favours they could probably exact a significant price. Although I suspect any suggestion he might have been talking to them might just bring the GOP lunatic fringe back on-side. If they don’t ultimately decide to play king maker and vote for McCarthy they’ll walk away from this debacle with absolutely nothing, which would be politically amateurish. Mind you, if the cap fits I suppose …

1andrew1 06-01-2023 00:12

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How many rounds can they go on for? They've done 10 now!

Mick 06-01-2023 01:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36143232)
How many rounds can they go on for? They've done 10 now!

Done 11 now, adjourned until tomorrow.

Itshim 06-01-2023 17:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36143138)
Donny would be bored senseless as speaker, he's need a tivo/tv on his desk. Plus a video golf game. Plus some acquiescent young ladies... And unlimited cola, plus Maccy Ds...

And he was nominated !!!:erm:

Hugh 06-01-2023 17:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36143286)
And he was nominated !!!:erm:

And didn’t win the vote - he demands a recount, and will appeal to the Supreme Court… ;)

Maggy 07-01-2023 09:12

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15 attempts and sooooo many concessions. Is it worth it to be beholden to so many?

1andrew1 07-01-2023 10:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36143307)
15 attempts and sooooo many concessions. Is it worth it to be beholden to so many?

Not a great advert for the West. And I can't think that it increases the Republicans' electability either.

papa smurf 07-01-2023 12:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36143308)
Not a great advert for the West. And I can't think that it increases the Republicans' electability either.

They just need someone who can make America great again to lead them

Chris 07-01-2023 12:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36143308)
Not a great advert for the West. And I can't think that it increases the Republicans' electability either.

The west of what?

1andrew1 07-01-2023 12:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36143312)
The west of what?

The Western World
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world

Chris 07-01-2023 13:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36143313)

I was being ever so slightly facetious, because I’m having a hard time understating why you think internal divisions in one party in one county taints the entire concept of western democracy. Perhaps you could elucidate.

1andrew1 07-01-2023 14:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36143314)
I was being ever so slightly facetious, because I’m having a hard time understating why you think internal divisions in one party in one county taints the entire concept of western democracy. Perhaps you could elucidate.

Of course. I can just see countries like China and North Korea covering this in a very negative way and justifying that they're better off with their own versions of governance.

Chris 07-01-2023 15:10

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I sincerely doubt it will change anyone’s mind in either country.

Paul 07-01-2023 15:44

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Well it seems they finally managed, at the 15th attempt.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64193932

Hugh 07-01-2023 16:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36143327)
Well it seems they finally managed, at the 15th attempt.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64193932

Slight inaccuracy/accidental misinterpretation in that article.

Quote:

It came after a dramatic pressure campaign played out live on the House floor as party rebel Matt Gaetz was urged to vote for Mr McCarthy.

The Florida Congressman was among six holdouts who relented late on Friday.
That makes it sound that he (and five others) voted for McCarthy - they didn’t, they voted "Present"; this lowered the the threshold for a Majority from 218 to 216 (to win the Speakership, a candidate needs a majority of all members who are voting for a candidate).

GrimUpNorth 07-01-2023 20:57

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It reminded me of the fiasco we had when trying to sort out the deal to leave the EU.


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