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Damien 09-11-2022 07:21

U.S Midterms - Democrats hold Senate, Republicans take House
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...main_p001_f001

Early days but the US midterm election results are starting to come. So far it looks like the Republicans will, as expected, take the house albeit narrowly but the senate remains a toss-up as the Democrats seem to be outperforming the expectations in the run-up to this election.

1andrew1 09-11-2022 08:48

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As an outsider, the mid-terms do seem a bit of overkill. Why not just have one election every four years for everything?

jfman 09-11-2022 09:00

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36139615)
As an outsider, the mid-terms do seem a bit of overkill. Why not just have one election every four years for everything?

Because the Constitution says so. And that’s hard to change, the argument would be that it gives checks and balances. One party controlling the Presidency, the House and the Senate for 4 years would be able to wield more power for longer, and the electorate tends to vote against that scenario given the opportunity at midterms.

denphone 09-11-2022 11:29

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What happened to the predicted red wave..

Dingbat 09-11-2022 11:39

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36139624)
What happened to the predicted red wave..

Going the same way as the red wall will.

ianch99 09-11-2022 11:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36139617)
Because the Constitution says so. And that’s hard to change, the argument would be that it gives checks and balances. One party controlling the Presidency, the House and the Senate for 4 years would be able to wield more power for longer, and the electorate tends to vote against that scenario given the opportunity at midterms.

You mean like the UK :)

Dude111 09-11-2022 12:13

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
As an outsider, the mid-terms do seem a bit of overkill. Why not just have one election every four years for everything?

Ya they should.... Its a joke!

Pierre 09-11-2022 12:40

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Well one positive is that it is unlikely to bolster Trumps belief in running again. DeSantis (if he wants to run) would seem to be the Republicans best shot in 24.

Dave42 09-11-2022 12:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36139624)
What happened to the predicted red wave..

it was fake news Den :rofl: :rofl:

Damien 09-11-2022 13:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36139635)
Well one positive is that it is unlikely to bolster Trumps belief in running again. DeSantis (if he wants to run) would seem to be the Republicans best shot in 24.

He and Florida are the only place the Republicans got the ‘wave’ expected. He will be heavy favourite now

Sephiroth 09-11-2022 13:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36139636)
it was fake news Den :rofl: :rofl:

... and it's fake news now.

Damien 09-11-2022 13:57

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It wasn’t fake news. Even the Democrats thought it would be worse

Sephiroth 09-11-2022 14:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36139641)
It wasn’t fake news. Even the Democrats thought it would be worse

I know, but I couldn't resist use of the pun!

papa smurf 09-11-2022 14:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36139641)
It wasn’t fake news. Even the Democrats thought it would be worse

They were worried all those dead voters would forget to vote for them again

Paul 09-11-2022 15:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36139626)
You mean like the UK :)

No.


... its 5 years ;)

Hugh 09-11-2022 15:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36139644)
They were worried all those dead voters would forget to vote for them again

I know - it's terrible when that happens...

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ways-vote-dem/

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Here are some examples:

• Nevada: In the aftermath of Biden’s roughly 34,000-vote win over Trump in Nevada, Donald Kirk Hartle, a Republican, told KLAS-TV that he was "surprised" to see that his wife cast a ballot "because she passed away three years ago. That is pretty sickening to me, to be honest with you."

While Hartle’s story gained attention from GOP leaders and pundits who were questioning the results of the state’s presidential vote, the tale eventually fell apart, as investigators concluded that Hartle himself had cast the fraudulent ballot.

Hartle pleaded guilty to one count of voting more than once in an election, receiving a sentence of probation and a $2,000 fine.

• Pennsylvania: Bruce Bartman from Marple voted on behalf of his late mother in the 2020 presidential election. He pleaded guilty to two counts of perjury and one count of unlawful voting and was sentenced to five years of probation.

Bartman said his illegal vote was cast for Donald Trump, The Associated Press reported. He also registered his late mother-in-law but did not secure an absentee ballot for her.

Bartman apologized, telling the court, "I was isolated last year in lockdown. I listened to too much propaganda and made a stupid mistake."

Meanwhile, in August 2021, a man from the Wilkes-Barre area pleaded guilty to a third-degree misdemeanor — not for voting fraudulently but for filing an absentee ballot application in the name of his late mother. The application cited a need to vote absentee because the man’s mother was purportedly "visiting great grandkids Oct. 24-Nov. 10."

The defendant, Robert Richard Lynn, was a registered Republican, the Times-Leader newspaper reported, citing state records. He was sentenced to six months of probation and 40 hours of community service.

• Florida: In 2020, voter Larry Wiggins of Manatee County tried to "test" the system by requesting a ballot for his late wife. "I heard so much about ballots being sent in and people just having found them in different places," Wiggins told WFLA-TV. "I feel like I haven’t done anything wrong." He told the Tampa station, "I said, Well, let me just send it in and see what’s going to happen, to see if they’re actually going to send a ballot for her to vote."

The request was flagged by the local elections office when it went through standard identity checks, so Wiggins did not receive a ballot. Instead, his case received a criminal referral. He pleaded no contest and was sentenced to 24 months of probation and 100 hours of community service.

Wiggins told WFLA that he was a Democrat who supported Trump.

Arizona: Tracey Kay McKee of Phoenix cast her late mother’s ballot in the 2020 general election. She was sentenced to two years of probation, fines and community service.

Both McKee and her recently deceased mother were registered Republicans, the Associated Press reported. In court, prosecutors noted that McKee railed against absentee voting during an interview with investigators in which she denied casting the ballot herself, saying, "I don’t believe that this was a fair election. I do believe there was a lot of voter fraud."

• Colorado: In 2017, a woman from Golden pleaded guilty to voting twice for her late father. Toni Lee Newbill had cast ballots in the 2013 general election and the 2016 Republican primary.

Damien 09-11-2022 19:17

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DeSantis has overtaken Trump as the favourite for the Republican nomination on some markets after last night's results. Flordia really was massive for the Republicans, the kind of result they wanted elsewhere. Might Trump's spell be broken on the party?

papa smurf 10-11-2022 12:20

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Pennsylvania voters elect ‘already dead’ Democrat state representative in midterm

https://www.express.co.uk/news/us/16...ny-deluca-dxus

jfman 10-11-2022 15:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36139713)
Pennsylvania voters elect ‘already dead’ Democrat state representative in midterm

https://www.express.co.uk/news/us/16...ny-deluca-dxus

Probably more coherent than Biden/Trump* (delete according to preference).

Damien 10-11-2022 17:13

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Thankfully it seems this time the election fraud accusations haven't really taken off. People have conceded when they've lost, there haven't been mass protests. Republicans are mostly arguing amongst themselves for the results rather than assuming it's rigged.

Suggestions that the Republicans are trying to stop Trump announcing he'll run next week: https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ncement-delay/

Mr K 10-11-2022 20:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36139731)
Thankfully it seems this time the election fraud accusations haven't really taken off. People have conceded when they've lost, there haven't been mass protests. Republicans are mostly arguing amongst themselves for the results rather than assuming it's rigged.

Suggestions that the Republicans are trying to stop Trump announcing he'll run next week: https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ncement-delay/

He'll run, even if it's the 'Trump Party, ' he's bigger than the Republicans. All good news for the Democrats.

Damien 13-11-2022 07:53

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Democrats retain the Senate so that hasn't changed. Looks like the Republicans will get a small majority in the House.

TheDaddy 13-11-2022 21:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36139856)
Democrats retain the Senate so that hasn't changed. Looks like the Republicans will get a small majority in the House.

Does it look like that?

Damien 13-11-2022 22:11

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36139884)
Does it look like that?

Yes, they're ahead in enough races to win the House which is what everyone is expecting (and expected). It's just likely to be in the single digits rather than the 20/30+ majority they expected.

This is the best a defending party has done in the midterms since the Republicans in 2002 and they had a popular President on the back of 9/11, not Biden who is very unpopular and massive inflation.

jfman 14-11-2022 08:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36139886)
Yes, they're ahead in enough races to win the House which is what everyone is expecting (and expected). It's just likely to be in the single digits rather than the 20/30+ majority they expected.

This is the best a defending party has done in the midterms since the Republicans in 2002 and they had a popular President on the back of 9/11, not Biden who is very unpopular and massive inflation.

I think that’s why he’s got doubts ;)

The NBC News projection for uncalled races takes it to R219-D216, with a margin of error of +/-4.

Damien 14-11-2022 08:27

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Yeah, so they'll need all the close races to break to the Democrats for a 1 seat Dem majority. It's not likely.

Mick 14-11-2022 11:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36139886)
Yes, they're ahead in enough races to win the House which is what everyone is expecting (and expected). It's just likely to be in the single digits rather than the 20/30+ majority they expected.

This is the best a defending party has done in the midterms since the Republicans in 2002 and they had a popular President on the back of 9/11, not Biden who is very unpopular and massive inflation.

Regardless-Important thing to note is, that once GOP win the House, they’ll kill the Jan 6th investigation committee dead in its tracks.

Damien 14-11-2022 11:58

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36139918)
Regardless-Important thing to note is, that once GOP win the House, they’ll kill the Jan 6th investigation committee dead in its tracks.

Probably although not sure that'll be wise since their allegiance to Trump is one of the explanations given for their poor performance. Most Americans want the storming of the Capitol investigated. They'll also have wafer-thin margins, which will mean moderate Republicans in Democrat-friendly areas will need to vote to kill it.

Incidentally, some key races went Republican last night, confirming a Republican majority.

Hugh 14-11-2022 12:13

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36139921)
Probably although not sure that'll be wise since their allegiance to Trump is one of the explanations given for their poor performance. Most Americans want the storming of the Capitol investigated. They'll also have wafer-thin margins, which will mean moderate Republicans in Democrat-friendly areas will need to vote to kill it.

Incidentally, some key races went Republican last night, confirming a Republican majority.

The Republicans need 7 more confirmed wins to have a majority.

https://wapo.st/3UOZGE2

Damien 14-11-2022 12:43

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Sorry should have said 'all but' confirming. I.E They look certain now.

Mick 14-11-2022 13:02

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36139926)
Sorry should have said 'all but' confirming. I.E They look certain now.

Let’s stick with what Americans say… “Projected winners”. ;)

Damien 17-11-2022 06:20

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Confirmed that the House is now Republican. Looks like they're have a majority of a handful of seats

Mr K 17-11-2022 08:53

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36140185)
Confirmed that the House is now Republican. Looks like they're have a majority of a handful of seats

And they're aleady fighting each other...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...droidApp_Other

Chris 07-12-2022 11:12

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Democrats solidify their hold on the senate by winning the Georgia run-off.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63877555

Apparently the first time since 1931 that a ruling party hasn’t lost a single senate seat at mid-term elections.

Also worth noting that the GOP candidate was yet another under-performing MAGA Trump-backed placeman. Looks like the magic’s wearing off.

Pierre 07-12-2022 12:00

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36141382)
Looks like the magic’s wearing off.

It's gone, but that won't stop his inflated ego from running again. If he runs and gets the nomination, he'll gift Biden (or his successor) a second term by simply being being the least worst option.

Mick 09-12-2022 14:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36141382)
Democrats solidify their hold on the senate by winning the Georgia run-off.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63877555

Apparently the first time since 1931 that a ruling party hasn’t lost a single senate seat at mid-term elections.

Also worth noting that the GOP candidate was yet another under-performing MAGA Trump-backed placeman. Looks like the magic’s wearing off.

Democrats lose a Senator, what a crying shame.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2242122.html

Democrats go back to holding 50 seats. She could still caucus with them, as an Independent but she has rejected some of their party policies, voted against ending the filibuster to get Biden's legislative agenda through.

Hugh 09-12-2022 15:48

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She has said she will still caucus with the Democrats

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law...to-independent

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Arizona Senator Kyrsten Sinema declared as an independent Friday but made clear she intends to continue to caucus with Democrats, maintaining the party’s newly expanded control of the chamber, committee subpoena power and ability to advance judicial nominees.
The VP still has the Casting Vote, though…

Chris 09-12-2022 15:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36141536)
Democrats lose a Senator, what a crying shame.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2242122.html

Democrats go back to holding 50 seats. She could still caucus with them, as an Independent but she has rejected some of their party policies, voted against ending the filibuster to get Biden's legislative agenda through.

It doesn’t really counter my point though, does it. Trump-backed candidates have underperformed in these elections, even in places where non-Trumpite Republican candidates have done well. The personal decision of a senator to ditch the Dem whip is interesting in its own right but doesn’t contradict the observation that there is limited appetite in the country for MAGA/Trump republicanism.

Plus, as Hugh has pointed out, the VP has the casting vote in the senate so the Dems still have control.

TheDaddy 09-12-2022 20:18

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36141545)
It doesn’t really counter my point though, does it. Trump-backed candidates have underperformed in these elections, even in places where non-Trumpite Republican candidates have done well. The personal decision of a senator to ditch the Dem whip is interesting in its own right but doesn’t contradict the observation that there is limited appetite in the country for MAGA/Trump republicanism.

Plus, as Hugh has pointed out, the VP has the casting vote in the senate so the Dems still have control.

A majority is good for the committee's though regardless of casting vote, that said I guess they still have a majority though as she is independent, maybe even available to the highest bidder!

Mick 11-12-2022 12:11

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36141543)
She has said she will still caucus with the Democrats

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law...to-independent



The VP still has the Casting Vote, though…

Only in a tie result & not all the time she won’t and Manchin, usually has his dem colleagues in a fix when he declares he wont vote with them.

---------- Post added at 12:11 ---------- Previous post was at 12:06 ----------

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36141545)
It doesn’t really counter my point though, does it. Trump-backed candidates have underperformed in these elections, even in places where non-Trumpite Republican candidates have done well. The personal decision of a senator to ditch the Dem whip is interesting in its own right but doesn’t contradict the observation that there is limited appetite in the country for MAGA/Trump republicanism.

Plus, as Hugh has pointed out, the VP has the casting vote in the senate so the Dems still have control.

Yes it does, I was making the point, which still stands, Dems have 50 seats again, not 51.

No need to mention Trump, I never brought him up, so I don’t give one iota, about where Trump/MAGA standing is right now & never have.

Damien 11-12-2022 12:57

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36141605)
Only in a tie result & not all the time she won’t and Manchin, usually has his dem colleagues in a fix when he declares he wont vote with them.

Pretty much the same as before though as Sinema would occasionally rebel as well.

1andrew1 11-12-2022 13:11

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36141608)
Pretty much the same as before though as Sinema would occasionally rebel as well.

She should resign and face election as an independent candidate.

As others have noted, this has been a successful Senate election for the Democrats. The learnings are pretty much all on the Republican side of the House. And they suggest the need to ditch Trump as he has fallen out of favour with the electorate, bar the die-harders.

Hugh 11-12-2022 14:13

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36141605)
Only in a tie result & not all the time she won’t and Manchin, usually has his dem colleagues in a fix when he declares he wont vote with them.

---------- Post added at 12:11 ---------- Previous post was at 12:06 ----------



Yes it does, I was making the point, which still stands, Dems have 50 seats again, not 51.

No need to mention Trump, I never brought him up, so I don’t give one iota, about where Trump/MAGA standing is right now & never have.

There are now three Independent Senators, all of whom caucus with the Democrats - Angus King (Maine), Bernie Sanders (Vermont), and Kristen Sinema (Arizona).

Mick 11-12-2022 17:29

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36141614)
There are now three Independent Senators, all of whom caucus with the Democrats - Angus King (Maine), Bernie Sanders (Vermont), and Kristen Sinema (Arizona).

I’m well aware of the numbers, Hugh, doesn’t alter the fact Dems still only have 50 seats, Sinema, just gone, won’t always side with Democrats, Manchin, usually has a habit of voting against his own side, that’s their majority gone. Either way, they’ve lost control of the House.

Hugh 11-12-2022 18:39

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I’m sorry, but I don’t follow your reasoning.

The Dems had 50 seats before, 48 Dems and 2 Independents who caucused with them.

They now have 48 Dems and 3 Independents who caucus with them, but they still only have 50 seats?

Damien 12-12-2022 07:17

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36141619)
I’m well aware of the numbers, Hugh, doesn’t alter the fact Dems still only have 50 seats, Sinema, just gone, won’t always side with Democrats, Manchin, usually has a habit of voting against his own side, that’s their majority gone. Either way, they’ve lost control of the House.

They already had independent senators who were considered part of their block. Nothing realistically changes since Sinema, like Manchin, didn't always side with the Democrats. It's just a change in her official designation. They still won't be able to pass anything if both of those rebel just as they did before but they still maintain control of the House since Manchin never tended to rebel on critical matters like a Supreme Court Justice or anything going after Biden.

Sinema would need to switch to the Republicans for them to lose the House officially.

Mick 13-12-2022 13:41

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36141639)
They already had independent senators who were considered part of their block. Nothing realistically changes since Sinema, like Manchin, didn't always side with the Democrats. It's just a change in her official designation. They still won't be able to pass anything if both of those rebel just as they did before but they still maintain control of the House since Manchin never tended to rebel on critical matters like a Supreme Court Justice or anything going after Biden.

Sinema would need to switch to the Republicans for them to lose the House officially.

Didn’t say anything about Dems losing control of Senate, it’s immaterial anyway because the Dems don’t have the House.

But if Sinema doesn’t go along party lines and Manchin, Manchin votes with Republicans, dems lose their majority. Cackling VP Harris, can’t use her deciding vote, But again, Biden’s legislative agenda can’t proceed without the control of the House.

1andrew1 13-12-2022 13:53

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Does anyone think now that Biden won't fufill his full term? Now would be the time for him to step down but that's not looking likely.

Sephiroth 13-12-2022 14:40

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He's like any politician. Loves the big stage. That's why Cameron voted Remain.

TheDaddy 13-12-2022 16:01

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36141777)
He's like any politician. Loves the big stage. That's why Cameron voted Remain.

Really, that's the reason :rofl:

Sephiroth 13-12-2022 16:21

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36141782)
Really, that's the reason :rofl:

Why else do most politicians want to get to the top (apart from the corrupt ones)?

Think about it. Is there an altruistic main party leader in the UK? Take the Wee Skankie in Scotland - strutting the EU corridors a few years ago - she wants a seat at the high table. Cameron was the same; what would top being PM of a sovereign country? Being at the top table with other leaders and wielding power there.

So, why wouldn't Biden want to be there for the same reason? Any altruism he might possess is dwarfed by the power fix he gets from the power he wields.


Damien 13-12-2022 16:41

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36141785)
Why else do most politicians want to get to the top (apart from the corrupt ones)?

Think about it. Is there an altruistic main party leader in the UK? Take the Wee Skankie in Scotland - strutting the EU corridors a few years ago - she wants a seat at the high table. Cameron was the same; what would top being PM of a sovereign country? Being at the top table with other leaders and wielding power there.

So, why wouldn't Biden want to be there for the same reason? Any altruism he might possess is dwarfed by the power fix he gets from the power he wields.


Sturgeon wants Scottish Independence. Everything she does suggests to me that's her genuine goal.

Sephiroth 13-12-2022 18:09

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36141786)
Sturgeon wants Scottish Independence. Everything she does suggests to me that's her genuine goal.

My insights into politicians' psyche goes deeper than the hurdle of acquiring top spot. I've been an astute watcher of the televised EU Council gatherings and you can see the "little" Presidents etc loving the limelight. The past Lithuanian president was an example. Then there's the strutting done by the big wheels.

The love it and Sturgeon wants just that. Must be since on independence alone Scotland would be headed for disaster.

Trouble is, the mass of 16 year olds who will be voting know diddly squat about anything important beyond their family.


Hugh 13-12-2022 18:29

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36141793)
My insights into politicians' psyche goes deeper than the hurdle of acquiring top spot. I've been an astute watcher of the televised EU Council gatherings and you can see the "little" Presidents etc loving the limelight. The past Lithuanian president was an example. Then there's the strutting done by the big wheels.

The love it and Sturgeon wants just that. Must be since on independence alone Scotland would be headed for disaster.

Trouble is, the mass of 16 year olds who will be voting know diddly squat about anything important beyond their family.


tbf, that could be Observer Bias…

Russ 15-12-2022 14:01

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Just when you thought he couldn’t be any more bigger of a tw*t

https://news.sky.com/story/america-n...ocial-12768463

Paul 15-12-2022 15:40

Re: U.S Midterms - Democrats hold Senate, Republicans take House
 
LOL, perhaps hes announcing his retirement, at 76 its time he did.

Damien 15-12-2022 16:03

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Is he selling Truth Social maybe?

Or is he going to pull out of the race and back DeSantis?

Hugh 15-12-2022 16:31

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36141942)
Is he selling Truth Social maybe?

Or is he going to pull out of the race and back DeSantis?

Trump's conservative base deserting him for DeSantis - poll

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63967234

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Most Republican-leaning voters would prefer Florida's governor over Donald Trump as their 2024 presidential nominee, according to a survey.

By a 56%-33% margin, conservative voters picked Governor Ron DeSantis over the former president, who formally launched his new campaign last month.

Mr K 15-12-2022 16:36

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36141949)
Trump's conservative base deserting him for DeSantis - poll

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63967234

Fake news, I should think....

Hugh 15-12-2022 17:01

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36141935)
LOL, perhaps hes announcing his retirement, at 76 its time he did.

This is the big announcement - he’s selling NFTs/Digital Lottery Tickets.

You buy the $99 NFT to enter into a sweepstakes for a *chance* to win a one-on-one meeting

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...8&d=1671123488

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1671123607

Paul 15-12-2022 17:23

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36141955)
This is the big announcement - he’s selling NFTs/Digital Lottery Tickets.

:rofl:

Hugh 15-12-2022 17:34

Re: U.S Midterms - Democrats hold Senate, Republicans take House
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36141956)
:rofl:

There’s more…


Mick 15-12-2022 17:51

Re: U.S Midterms - Democrats hold Senate, Republicans take House
 
I think he’s bottling it, either that or he’s just got really piss poor campaign managers. Seen lots of commentary suggesting this is the closest we got to a Trump concession speech.

Mick 19-12-2022 22:30

Re: U.S Midterms - Democrats hold Senate, Republicans take House
 
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BREAKING: U.S Supreme Court blocks and holds lower court order, that ordered Trump-era policy, on blocking illegal migrants entering country to be lifted.

Chief Justice Roberts has paused the lifting of Title 42 for now.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1671488927

jfman 27-12-2022 19:20

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64102086

A liar in Congress. Colour me surprised.

TheDaddy 28-12-2022 03:58

Re: U.S Midterms - Democrats hold Senate, Republicans take House
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36142673)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64102086

A liar in Congress. Colour me surprised.

He's wanted for fraud in his native Brazil to, apparently...

1andrew1 28-12-2022 13:51

Re: U.S Midterms - Democrats hold Senate, Republicans take House
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36142698)
He's wanted for fraud in his native Brazil to, apparently...

Surprised his Party didn't undertake some basic due diligence if that is the case.

Hugh 30-12-2022 14:48

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Trump’s Tax Returns

https://t.co/NVegOYNGuZ

Zip archive

29 PDFs in the Business folder, 17 in the Individual folder

Mr K 30-12-2022 16:36

Re: U.S Midterms - Democrats hold Senate, Republicans take House
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36142829)
Trump’s Tax Returns

https://t.co/NVegOYNGuZ

Zip archive

29 PDFs in the Business folder, 17 in the Individual folder

Save us the hassle Hugh. Just have a read through and report back . Ta ;)

pip08456 30-12-2022 17:54

Re: U.S Midterms - Democrats hold Senate, Republicans take House
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36142841)
Save us the hassle Hugh. Just have a read through and report back . Ta ;)

Would be easier as I don't want to trawl through them. That said is there anything new we need to learn?

Paul 30-12-2022 18:01

Re: U.S Midterms - Democrats hold Senate, Republicans take House
 
Try this ;

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What do Trump's tax returns show?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64127825

TheDaddy 30-12-2022 19:40

Re: U.S Midterms - Democrats hold Senate, Republicans take House
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36142846)
Would be easier as I don't want to trawl through them. That said is there anything new we need to learn?

Shows that he kept the presidential salary that he promised to donate to charity, mind you when you consider what that family has done with actual charities money it shouldn't surprise anyone... :(


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