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The Greatest Lie Ever Sold: George Floyd and the Rise of BLM
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Floyd was a prime example of why you should just comply with the old bill. No matter what colour. He was a wife beating thieving slimebucket still do not wish him dead but he should have just complied.
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Police officers have no authority to execute someone for disobedience.
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Plenty of cases around the WORLD, where somebody has died after having to be restrained. There was a case in the US where a guy who wasn't being violent or aggressive, other than perhaps verbally, died after being physically restrained by 2 security guards. As the guy was white and the guards weren't, no fuss or riots over it. |
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George was, in the eyes of the law a petty criminal he did not deserve to be murdered. He has become a focal point for the historic ill treatment, racism suffered by the black community in the US I can give you first hand eye witness testimony of this happening when a colleague of mine having both been out for dinner and a few beers were walking back to a hotel in MSP (the hewing) was stopped and searched for 0 reason whatsoever You want to start a thread about the mistreatment of whites by the police have at it. |
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This was all discussed two years ago in the George Floyd thread, and I’m not seeing anything new.
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He was a known violent criminal they were protecting themselves |
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These people of all colours that deliberately provoke the Police just do not seem to realise it would all go better for them if they just chilled out. I do not think I have ever seen a group of cops suddenly decide not to arrest someone because they are fighting back or making the arrest difficult they are going to get nicked anyway, why make it worse? just yes sir no sir home for supper |
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I’m not sure how much further he could have capitulated than dying to be honest.
The cop is rightfully a convicted murderer. |
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I saw a thread on City-data about BLM being exposed on the political base earlier but I still think its a good movement... People of ANY COLOUR can be mean........ |
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Did anyone see the cops bodycam footage? He wasn't actually kneeling on Floyds neck, he was on his upper back. The phone footage angle made it look like the cop was on his neck. The documentary also shows that Floyd had a lethal dose of drugs in him at the time of his arrest.
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The cop - a habitual offender it appears - got 22 years that’s good enough for me. He’s a murderer. |
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A criminal - a habitual offender it appears - resists arrest and dies as a result. He was an idiot |
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So..... laying motionless and having no pulse indicates non compliance ? cop: "stop resisting" detainee: lies motionless and has no pulse cop: "stop resisting" * keeps knee on neck. Yuo, makes absolute perfect sense. |
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As for the Floyd case I appear to have been misinformed and his only resistance appears to have just been getting him out of the car. After that he seemed compliant. It does look to be though that he was suffering a medical incident causing him to fall to the floor more than once. Whether his past record led Chauvin to treat him harshly I do not know or whether his illness had any role in his death either. I got it wrong with case and hold my hands up (an admission of being wrong and fessing up. Rare thing for this forum hahahaha) |
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Also with regards to the medical stuff there was been a criminal trial in America where the jury were not convinced it was anything other than the blocking of his airways.
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However, what I was trying to convey is the difference in policing culture between here and the USA. Whatever problems we have, we just don’t have the levels of casual brutality amongst rank and file officers that appears to be standard practice over there. |
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What else he did or didn’t do that day is a red herring. |
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I am sure over the years many have felt like it though |
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Autopsy demonstrated no signs of lethal trauma. Autopsy did demonstrate lethal levels of drugs in his system. |
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The Hennepin County medical examiner's office ruled Floyd's death was a homicide caused by "cardiopulmonary arrest" complicated by "restraint, and neck compression" while he was being subdued by police. The official autopsy which btw is easily available online states ss above. You're talking weapons grade dribble |
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perhaps you could try to read this and maybe just maybe learn something https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...ng-of-america/ |
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He resisted being put ine the police car Claiming to be claustrophobic (having been taken out of a car). That he was demanding to be able to lie on the ground. That the Officer didn't have his knee on his neck. As well as: That the autopsy found no evidence of airway restriction. That he had taken a lethal combination of drugs. Cold blooded murder? More like trial by media. BTW there is an appeal pending. |
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Regardless of who did what, Floyd or the police.
The singular bottom line is that Floyd did not have to die that day. It is as black and white as that. Should the policeman have been convicted or what he should been convicted of are secondary. |
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Watch the documentary, it may change your view. You don't need to watch it to the end as it goes off onto what BLM have done with their funds as is immaterial. |
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Pretty sure the documentary could not by any stretch of the imagination could be called "objective", as neither Candace Owens or the Daily Wire are…
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That's ironic as that is what the article actually does. It skirts around the issue of lethal levels of drugs in his system. It states that his neck was knelt on when the bodycam footage shows that it wasn't. It correctly states that "the autopsy of George Floyd “revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxiation” ", but then incorrectly says "taken from the criminal charge complaint against Chauvin" I'm unimpressed by the article. I'm even less impressed that you won't entertain watching the documentary. You might learn something.... |
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How can you judge until you've seen it? She's definately anti BLM and that is what the doc is really about but on the Floyd case she approaches it differently. I do recomend you watching it and then making up your own mind. |
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His life choices are totally incidental to what occurred. |
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His life choices are the exact reason such a thing occurred. If he were a law abiding citizen going through his day to day life, we wouldn't be here talking about it. |
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That is the only place to be shining a light. |
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Spot on, Pierre.
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Spot on indeed
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While choosing a life of being a criminal. If he wasn't a criminal, we wouldn't be talking about this as it wouldn't have happened. |
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You love that word, despite the fact that "Murder" requires the death to be deliberate or pre-planned. This was neither.
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Second-degree murder is generally either: An unplanned, intentional killing (reacting in the heat of the moment when angry) A death caused by a reckless disregard for human life He was murdered , Derek Chauvin was convicted of 2nd degree murder and also 3rd degree murder and something else which I can’t remember immediately |
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Should’ve, would’ve, could’ve are totally meaningless in regards to what happened in this case. The fact, and the only fact that matters, is that he died whilst being 100% in the care of the police. It may have been quite possible that the police did nothing wrong to cause his death whilst he was in their custody. That question has been answered in a court. It really is that simple. |
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A series of choices that lead to the end event on both sides |
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What would your position be if he wasn’t a criminal, and died in police custody in exactly the same way? What would your position be if he had a mental impairment/learning difficulties, and the police ( due to his size) restrained him and he died in exactly the same way. What would be your view of the polices’ actions? |
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Got it! |
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He may have been whatever he was, but as I say earlier if it was a case of mistaken identity and he was completely innocent, why would that in any way be a material difference in what happened? ---------- Post added at 20:51 ---------- Previous post was at 20:51 ---------- Quote:
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Or did I say he got to where he is now due to his own lifestyle choices. ---------- Post added at 20:53 ---------- Previous post was at 20:52 ---------- Quote:
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So that doesn’t fly, at all. |
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Had the hennepin police exercised their legal responsibilities he would still be alive and that’s all there is to it. |
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Had George Floyd not been a criminal, he would still be alive. |
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Your focus is wrong |
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If he wasn't a criminal, he wouldn't of needed the care of the Police that day, his lifestyle choice put him in that position in the first instance. My focus is what I want my focus to be. He was a criminal and put himself in the position he was in. Had he not been a criminal in the first instance, we wouldn't be here talking about it. |
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And as we say in Scotland if your auntie had baws she’d be your uncle.
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If someone had a bad lifestyle and bad choices, a drug addict, wife beater, serial criminal and he ended up in hospital due to complications with his drug use. He would have been fine, just needed 48hrs in hospital and he would have walked out, he may have got clean and gone on to be a good citizen but the doctor made an error he should been able to avoid as a professional and as someone that is trusted to care for. He administered a lethal dose of anaesthetic and killed him. Should that doctor be prosecuted? |
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So what type of criminal record do you guys think justifies not coming home again? Just wondering what crimes put you in the don't deserve to live category?
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If I have to, jfman will stop laughing and I don’t want that to happen.
Seriously, for you to ask that, you need to re-evaluate your recent posts and apply a self critical irony filter. You’ll work it out. |
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Afraid I'm also agreeing with you on this point, Pierre. |
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No one has mentioned that the BLM leaders bought mansions, gave away millions to friends and family and haven't filed any tax returns.....:D
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Talk of Kanye West being sued for 250 million for saying Floyd died of a drug overdose rather than due to someones knee being in his neck
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