Hub5 - VOIP
 

Anybody with VOIP active swapped from Hub4 to Hub5 yet?
If so - anything I need to lookout for?

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Just got my Hub5 a few days ago, and can confirm that its working great for VOIP on the default or modem modes.

On the things to look out for part. When it starts up in full router mode (the default mode) it will come up on the network on 192.168.1.1. Which may collide with your 3rd party router. It did have a fight (ip address collision) with my Asus router until I put it into modem mode and then it went back to using 192.168.100.1 and everything was happy again.

As for performance, its working great so far and I'm not noticing the same lag spikes or lockups as I was on the hub4.

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Thanks for info.
I installed my mum's last week as just a basic router operation and it was available as 192.168.100.1 - but will look out.

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VOIP is why I'll be sticking to my SH2ac.
When your broadband is down, my separate independent phoneline will be working.
Pay for 200mb get that and a bit more . Not sure.what more I expect.

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They will eventually force everyone onto VoIP so they can shutdown the old copper phone network.

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I'll wait till they do ;)

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When you move to VOIP has nothing to do with your current Hub.
When your area gets done, you will get a new Hub that supports the function.

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I don't see how that is connected??
My mum has a Hub5 and a regular 'phone line which works with the Hub5 off.

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All copper phone lines are due to be shut down by 2025. It's proving too costly for BT et. all to maintain the lines. VoIP is the preferred route now, and yes it has no resilience during power cuts ....

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Not great for the most vulnerable that don't have broadband and or mobile. Guess we stopped caring about them a while ago...

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I think many of them are using powered base units for their 'phones and so thy will not work in a power cut anyway.

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We have both a wireless phone and an old one plugged in for use in power cuts. Mobile signal here is not stellar.

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Is it VOIP? I don't think it is. My phone is analogue and plugged into the Hub telephone port (via a filter). So it can't be VOIP.

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It is VoIP between the Hub and Virgin Media, but it's converted to an analogue service on the Hub so you can use your existing handsets.

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But is there a proper VOIP service for users with IP phones via the telephone port (which is not Ethernet).

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Does it output correct voltage on the 'VOIP' ports, then? - I admit that I've never actually checked!


Tom

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Not sure what you mean by a 'proper VoIP service'

VoIP is a description of a technology, not a specific set of features.

The VoIP setup for the Hub based lines on Virgin Media (and Openreach for the most part) is designed to replicate an analogue phone service to minimise disruption as much as possible to how customers use their phone line, and to allow as much as existing UK approved phone equipment to be reused as possible.

The Hub based VoIP has a dedicated IP path between the Hub and Virgin Media and doesn't go near the customer accessible broadband connection.

VoIP is in VoWiFi or VoLTE on mobile devices, but those again are designed to replicate how circuit-switched calls from mobile devices work to the end user.

'OTT' VoIP uses Ethernet or WiFi compatible kit connected to a router over a broadband connection.

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It is not VOIP that was in the in thing a decade or so ago with peep buying proper VOIP handsets to call abroad cheap, if it was your normal DECT phone would not work.

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It's VOIP. Same concept as getting your own Analogue Telephone Adaptor (ATA) and plugging your existing phone into that. Just in this case Virgin manage the ATA (the hub) and the connection/subscription it uses.

I'd like to think eventually they'd unbundle it slightly so you can use your own voip capable phone with a username/password and settings they provide. But as it is, you have to use their hub so you are stuck with it being analogue on the cpe.

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Someone explained on the VM forum why it is not actually VOIP.

"VM's home landline service via a connection from TEL1 on the back of the hub (marketing name is 21CV) is not a VOIP service"

May be in this thread: https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...VOIP%20service.

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Going by my reading that thread it seems bit of a mess for that guy at least and Vm are going to fix the issue and someday be offering VOIP.

For me now this late in the day and at my age I hardly use my phones (landline or talk/text on my mobile but use it for many things).

I cannot be bothered with 99% of people so only make calls if it is a must but again back when the buzz word was VOIP it was good for people to call their family back in India etc cheaply before mobiles cost less to do so on.