Rupa Huq suspended
 

Labour MP Rupa Huq suspended from party for calling Chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng 'superficially' black

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-mp...rteng-12706333


Nice to see the racism problem is under control


The MP for Ealing Central and Acton, made the remarks about Britain's first black chancellor at a Labour conference fringe event on Monday entitled "What's Next for Labour's Agenda on Race?"

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shocking comments she should be ashamed of herself rightly suspended

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Yup. She can't complain about the suspension.

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And they call the Conservatives the nasty party!

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Is anyone actually surprised? The left is not nice and cuddly and it doesn’t believe in freedom to live as you choose. It peddles a new orthodoxy which it is prepared to use law to force on people and it reveals the ugly truth every time someone from a minority group dares step out of the approved state of victimhood assigned to them.

Witness for example the shrill denouncements of Germaine Greer and others who gave their lives for feminism, at the hands of radical trans activists for whom womens’ rights are anathema. Or, in this case, the denouncement of a black man for the heinous crime of being successful and having his own ideas about how success might best be offered to everyone else.

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The right wing press will love the traction from this. Losing the economic argument leaves culture wars as the last straw to clutch at between now and a general election and Labour have left an open goal.

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Good to see people in this forum calling out racist behaviour - well done, papa.

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The key thing is that she came out and said this sort of things, while there are masses of others in the Labour party who think them, or discuss them amongst themselves.

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Ok .... but how is calling a black man "black", racist and vile :confused:

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She said he was 'superficially' black with the implication being that he somehow isn't really because his experience and background don't match.

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The terms that tend to be used instead are "coconut" and "bounty bar", meaning they are "white" inside, and not fully "black".

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Did she really mean that? Or is it simply acknowledging that the broader lived experience of certain minorities isn’t uniform based on their outward appearance. So when people stereotype and visualise the “black community” they probably don’t visualise an investment banker.

Fundamentally it’s an open goal for the opponents of Labour for them to have these pseudo-intellectual debates publicly because when you filter the content down to a soundbyte, a tweet, or a tabloid newspaper column it’s very easy to portray it as saying something it doesn’t. Of those who see through that, the vast majority will be wondering why Labour thought it was wasting their time over during the biggest economic crisis in decades.

Being the moral arbiter or who does (and who doesn’t) count as having lived experience across racial or sex based lines is just toxic.

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Sound rather like another case of people trying hard to be offended.

Bady chosen words ? Definitely, but "racist and vile" Come on, a bit OTT

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Twice in two weeks we agree. :shocked: ;)

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Whatever way you look at it, she referred to his race and in a derogatory way.

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And your evidence for this assertion is?

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Badly worded and unacceptable by her. I assume you were equally unimpressed by Boris Johnsons infamous "piccanninnies with watermelon smiles" contribution some years ago.

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Whataboutery alert

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No, it's a cross party problem that's all.

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“Superficially”. I.e not really. I.e. “Uncle Tom”

If you’re a conservative black person, you can’t possibly be properly black.

It’s like Larry Elder a republican black man that ran for governor of California. Headline…..: Larry Elder the Black Face of White Supremacy

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...face-of-white/

If you’re black and disagree with the left you’re not black enough, like wise if you’re a woman standing for women only spaces you’re a transphobic or if you’re a gay person campaigning for same sex attracted rights ……..also a transphobic.

The left will come for you, even if you are of the left.

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Not strictly true, of course.:rolleyes: It was 2 separate quotes, not one.
The "watermelon smiles" was a reference to the fake smiles that tribal leaders in the Congo would have for an upcoming Royal visit. The tribal leaders were responsible for a lot of killing. He was evoking an image, nothing more.

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The very least they should do is suspend her and following an enquiry kick her out if found guilty.

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Thank you for confirming what I said :)

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She called him ‘superficially black’ because his social background doesn’t conform to the left’s acceptable definition of blackness, which is economically and socially marginalised and from a certain strata of the working class.

In one phrase she managed to be obnoxiously both classist and racist. It’s actually quite an achievement. It is, as I said, also unsurprising to anyone who knows the well these people drink from, which is every bit as bigoted and narrow minded as those they claim to oppose.

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Exactly.

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Agreed. This could have been a gift to Truss were it not for her economic mismanagement drowning it out.

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Racism is a societal problem, not a political one. Calling it ‘cross party’ diminishes it.

The particular *flavour* of racism exhibited by Huq is a problem of the hard left*, which is obsessed with theories of race and class that stereotype people and lead to ridiculous incidents like this one.

*Not the Labour Party, but represented both inside and outside it in wider society

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It’s can hardly be considered a flavour of racism if it’s not discriminating against him on the basis of his race. Trying to claim he’s a black person without the lived experience of black people is indeed monumentally stupid but not racist.

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She attacked him on the basis of his race. She wasn’t simply drawing attention to the difference between his lived experience and the majority of black Britons. She was actively attempting to diminish him for it - on the basis of his race. That’s racism, except of course from the point of view of the hard left, which believes it owns the issue and, in some cases, even believes that it is not possible for anyone from an ethnic minority to be racist.

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I think this can only be a deliberately sensationalist interpretation of events to slur people you are politically opposed to. Hence your persistent use of “hard left”.

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Actually the opposite - I’m using ‘hard left’ deliberately instead of ‘Labour’ because it’s obvious that Starmer and a great many others in the party are appalled by Huq’s behaviour.

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Huq supported Cooper, Smith and then Starmer in the last 3 leadership elections and there was a more left wing candidate at points.

I think it would probably be more appropriate, and less hyperbolic, to either recognise her actual intent or even if not that it’s an isolated problem within Labour. Rather than slur people on the left as if they all said it. That reasonable step however does the Conservatives no favours when they are on their knees.

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She may as well have called him an Uncle Tom, that was her intent.

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H’mm. Who would have thought that jfman would attempt to justify the indefensible?

Ooo, not I…:D

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No one, because he isnt.

Do you have something useful to contribute, or should I remove you from the topic for pointless personal digs, yet again ?