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Mick 03-08-2022 08:35

China Military Drills have invaded Taiwan
 
BREAKING: Chinese military exercises near Taiwan have encroached on the island's territory and amount to a blockade of its sea and air space, the defence ministry has said.

The exercises by the Chinese navy and air force are seen as a direct response to the visit to Taiwan of top U.S politician Nancy Pelosi, the most senior American politician to visit in 25 years.

The Taiwan Defence Ministry said China had broken UN rules and it would counter any incursions into its territory. - Sky News. https://news.sky.com/story/chinese-m...istry-12664515

papa smurf 03-08-2022 08:44

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Is this woman nuts ? wtf does she think she's doing.

tweetiepooh 03-08-2022 11:06

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Unofficially supporting Taiwan. It's part of the games played that's worked for years. Worry is now that China's leadership, having "won" Hong Kong, are now looking to win Taiwan.

Mick 03-08-2022 11:09

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BREAKING: US House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi is leaving Taipei, Taiwan, following her historic visit that had provoked a threatening posture from China. - Sky News.

Pierre 03-08-2022 13:12

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36130207)
Unofficially supporting Taiwan. It's part of the games played that's worked for years. Worry is now that China's leadership, having "won" Hong Kong, are now looking to win Taiwan.

They didn’t “win” Hong Kong, they were always going to get it back.

Mick 03-08-2022 15:37

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LATEST: China issues new threat suggesting those who offend China will be punished. Germany wades in asking for rapid deescalation of military threats - Sky News

Damien 03-08-2022 16:09

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China is always sabre-rattling on Taiwan, the question to me is why do America think they needed to also put on a show? Do they have intelligence that China might be seriously considering taking it?

Gavin78 03-08-2022 21:34

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They had enough to put on a live fire exercise last minute, how combat ready were they?

1andrew1 03-08-2022 22:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36130219)
They didn’t “win” Hong Kong, they were always going to get it back.

Why were they always going to get it back? And does the same apply to Taiwan?

Jaymoss 03-08-2022 22:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36130252)
Why were they always going to get it back? And does the same apply to Taiwan?

Britain literally leased Hong Kong for 99 years in 1898

Paul 04-08-2022 01:49

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Rather dramatic title, I dont think China have quite invaded Taiwan (yet). ;)

Mick 04-08-2022 08:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36130260)
Rather dramatic title, I dont think China have quite invaded Taiwan (yet). ;)

Just copying what it said in the Sky News link, the military drills are being conducted on Taiwan land, it’s an invasion of sorts, but not a full one. This morning China have flown 2 military drones, over Taiwan airspace, total breach of UN laws.

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BREAKING: China fired 'multiple' ballistic missiles during drills: Taiwan military preparing for war, but not seeking it. - Sky News.

Maggy 04-08-2022 08:51

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Well normally in such sabre rattling situations it comes down to economic sanctions rather than outright war. China seems to be more about economics when dealing with the world at large these days and going full out war won't be making them money.It may settle down if everyone just deals in trade rather than tit for tat shows of military muscle.

Mick 04-08-2022 09:05

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Various U.S Media outlets are reporting that U.S House of Representatives speaker Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan was initially advised against by U.S President Joe Biden, both he and Pentagon were initially opposed to such a visit, but later prepared her visit with military protection, stating she had a right to go.

Dave42 04-08-2022 17:38

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she was very stupid to go the world got enough on with Russia Ukraine war without her trying to stir up trouble with China too last thing world needs

TheDaddy 04-08-2022 18:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36130305)
she was very stupid to go the world got enough on with Russia Ukraine war without her trying to stir up trouble with China too last thing world needs

Wonder what she thought it would achieve, if Taiwan need reassurance ring them up ffs

Mad Max 04-08-2022 19:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36130306)
Wonder what she thought it would achieve, if Taiwan need reassurance ring them up ffs


She, along with sleepy Joe, should be packed up and taken to the nearest nursing home, madness going to Taiwan ffs.

Paul 04-08-2022 21:00

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Sleepy Joe did not actually agree with it, but stopped short of actually preventing her.

I completely fail to see the point of it, other than to annoy the Chinese, which seems dumb.

RichardCoulter 04-08-2022 21:02

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Let's hope that this doesn't end up with another war.

Mad Max 04-08-2022 21:03

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36130333)
Let's hope that this doesn't end up with another war.

Well if it does we can all kiss our arses goodbye.

Mr K 04-08-2022 21:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36130335)
Well if it does we can all kiss our arses goodbye.

And our semiconductors....

Mick 05-08-2022 09:58

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BREAKING: BEIJING, Aug 5 (Reuters) - China has decided to sanction U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her immediate family in response to her "vicious" and "provocative" actions, the Chinese foreign ministry said on Friday.

"Despite China's serious concerns and firm opposition, Pelosi insisted on visiting Taiwan, seriously interfering in China's internal affairs, undermining China's sovereignty and territorial integrity, trampling on the one-China policy, and threatening the peace and stability of the Taiwan Strait," a ministry spokesperson said in a statement. - Reuters News Agency.

tweetiepooh 05-08-2022 10:15

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China "won" HK not because they didn't get it back as an entity but because they have managed to slowly remove freedoms and make it more like the mainland.

Mick 05-08-2022 19:11

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BREAKING: China puts 'ring of steel' around Taiwan island and cuts off some diplomatic channels with the U.S; Taipei warns of 'firm action' - Sky News.

richard-john56 05-08-2022 20:31

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Let us keep appeasing these thugs shall we... Taiwan never belonged to China but to Imperial China if anything... How dare they attack an 82 year old woman... The ultimate defence weapon would be to have nukes placed secretly on Taiwan if they were invaded by thousands of Chinese robot troops and their leader. BOOM! blow the lot sky high if the Taiwanese cannot live in peace then the Communist will not have it either. Drastic I know.

Pierre 05-08-2022 21:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36130394)
China "won" HK not because they didn't get it back as an entity but because they have managed to slowly remove freedoms and make it more like the mainland.

What exactly did anyone expect them to do. Hong Kong was “returned” to China as per the agreement. What China does with it after that is their business.

Hugh 05-08-2022 22:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36130447)
What exactly did anyone expect them to do. Hong Kong was “returned” to China as per the agreement. What China does with it after that is their business.

Unless they signed an agreement not to…
Quote:

In accordance with the "One country, two systems" principle agreed between the United Kingdom and the People's Republic of China, the socialist system of the People's Republic of China would not be practised in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (HKSAR), and Hong Kong's previous capitalist system and its way of life would remain unchanged for a period of 50 years
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handover_of_Hong_Kong

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Beijing’s imposition of new rules disqualifying opposition legislators in Hong Kong constitutes a breach of legally binding international commitments, the UK foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, has said.

Raab said the move represented a “clear breach” of the Sino-British joint declaration, which was supposed to guarantee Hong Kong a high degree of autonomy under Chinese rule.

In a statement, Raab said the UK would work with allies to hold the Chinese government to its obligations under international law.

“China has once again broken its promises and undermined Hong Kong’s high degree of autonomy,” said Raab.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-dominic-raab

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The UK now considers Beijing to be in a state of ongoing non-compliance with the Sino-British Joint Declaration,” the foreign ministry said in a statement.

The treaty was signed before Britain handed Hong Kong back to China in 1997 and was designed to allay fears about its future under Beijing’s rule.

It guarantees the financial hub special status including a high degree of autonomy to manage its own affairs and the right to freedom of speech.

But British Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said that Beijing’s decision “to impose radical changes to restrict participation in Hong Kong’s electoral system” was a “further clear breach” of the agreement.
https://hongkongfp.com/2021/03/14/ch...ement-says-uk/

Gavin78 06-08-2022 01:29

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China is just flexing, the issue is if it did turn into a "Ukraine" would the US have to go it alone or would they have the support of NATO? Would the US even bother to get involved?

Pierre 06-08-2022 23:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36130451)
Unless they signed an agreement not to…

It’s China, anyone that thought they’d stick to that and not ignore it when it suits are being very naive.

It their sovereign territory and they won’t have a third party dictate to them what they can do on it.

Parallels could possibly be drawn here.

1andrew1 06-08-2022 23:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36130502)
It’s China, anyone that thought they’d stick to that and not ignore it when it suits are being very naive.

It their sovereign territory and they won’t have a third party dictate to them what they can do on it.

Parallels could possibly be drawn here.

We've not got as bad as dishonouring international agreements as China, but I agree we're heading in that direction. I'm nonetheless hopeful that we will prove more sensible and not go down that route.

papa smurf 07-08-2022 08:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36130505)
We've not got as bad as dishonouring international agreements as China, but I agree we're heading in that direction. I'm nonetheless hopeful that we will prove more sensible and not go down that route.

Is this you opening yet another bottle of EU whine :shocked:

heero_yuy 07-08-2022 08:19

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36130512)
Is this you opening yet another bottle of EU whine :shocked:

More like sour grape juice. :D

Hugh 07-08-2022 09:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36130502)
It’s China, anyone that thought they’d stick to that and not ignore it when it suits are being very naive.

It their sovereign territory and they won’t have a third party dictate to them what they can do on it.

Parallels could possibly be drawn here.

They claim it’s their "sovereign territory" - Taiwan disagree…

Maggy 07-08-2022 09:17

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How about sticking to the topic please which is NOT the EU.

Pierre 07-08-2022 13:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36130514)
They claim it’s their "sovereign territory" - Taiwan disagree…

I was talking about Hong Kong.

Hugh 07-08-2022 17:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36130522)
I was talking about Hong Kong.

Apologies.

Mick 28-08-2022 09:25

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BREAKING: China issues warning and places it’s military on high alert and declares it is 'ready to defeat any provocation' as two U.S Navy ships sail through Taiwan Strait - Sky News. https://news.sky.com/story/china-rea...trait-12683614


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