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denphone 31-07-2022 19:36

England women win Euro 2022
 
England Women wins Euro 2022.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/58890160


Truly wonderful.:D:D:cleader::cleader:

Julian 31-07-2022 19:48

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Can't believe how the BBC have been pushing this so much when the squad is almost completely devoid of any non-white players. :td:

Also the constant comparisons with the men's team has been pathetic and completely irrelevant.

Thankfully it's over.

Sorry Den not for me....

Mr K 31-07-2022 20:02

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36129981)
Can't believe how the BBC have been pushing this so much when the squad is almost completely devoid of any non-white players. :td:

Also the constant comparisons with the men's team has been pathetic and completely irrelevant.

Thankfully it's over.

Sorry Den not for me....

Killjoy.

Paul 31-07-2022 20:17

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36129981)
Can't believe how the BBC have been pushing this so much when the squad is almost completely devoid of any non-white players.

So ?

I didnt know football teams had non white quotas now :dozey:

No doubt the BBC are pushing it for the usual woke related reasons.
I tried to watch some the other night, but the standard wasnt that good, and the screeching commentator soon drove me to the mute button.

Dont get me wrong, its nice that we won, and even better we beat Germany to do it, but I really have no interest in womens football. To me its no different or better than non league football, and I have no interest in that either.

Mr K 31-07-2022 20:19

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36129985)
So ?

I didnt know football teams had non white quotas now :dozey:

No doubt the BBC are pushing it for the usual woke related reasons.
I tried to watch some the other night, but the standard wasnt that good, and the screeching commentator soon drove me to the mute button.

Dont get me wrong, its nice that we won, and even better we beat Germany to do it, but I really have no interest in womens football. To me its no different or better than non league football, and I have no interest in that either.

Not even Notts County? ;)

Maggy 31-07-2022 20:21

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36129981)
Can't believe how the BBC have been pushing this so much when the squad is almost completely devoid of any non-white players. :td:

Also the constant comparisons with the men's team has been pathetic and completely irrelevant.

Thankfully it's over.

Sorry Den not for me....

What a sour puss.

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36129985)
So ?

I didnt know football teams had non white quotas now :dozey:

No doubt the BBC are pushing it for the usual woke related reasons.
I tried to watch some the other night, but the standard wasnt that good, and the screeching commentator soon drove me to the mute button.

Dont get me wrong, its nice that we won, and even better we beat Germany to do it, but I really have no interest in womens football. To me its no different or better than non league football, and I have no interest in that either.

Oh come on Paul.It's ENGLAND.:p:

Paul 31-07-2022 20:21

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36129986)
Not even Notts County? ;)

Nope. They are (well were, decades ago) our local rivals.

Damien 31-07-2022 21:17

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Probably going to be a big boost for women's football domestically as well. The WSL has been getting more popular, Arsenal are moving more and more games to the Emirates Stadium for example, but this should help speed that process up.

Jaymoss 01-08-2022 00:27

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One thing I did notice was how on the hole the women players are less likely to try and cheat than the men so that is a big big up from me

Jimmy-J 01-08-2022 01:55

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All very good, now go home and get the tea on. ;)

GrimUpNorth 01-08-2022 09:00

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I thought it was really good, sad it took until after we'd won to get a thread on here!

Did make me think of the Not The Nine O'clock New sketch about women's football but I'm not posting a link as it's not appropriate for a family website and society has moved on and we have different morals and values than we did back then. And the players wear something under their shirts these days so not even realistic any more!

Damien 01-08-2022 10:32

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62375750

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England's Euro 2022 final win over Germany was watched by a peak BBC One television audience of 17.4 million, making it the most-watched women's football game on UK television.

The 2-1 extra-time win is also the most-watched programme in the UK so far in 2022.

Halcyon 01-08-2022 11:53

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Absolutely loved the final and when Germany equalised it was definately game on!

Russ 01-08-2022 14:55

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I can get over the fact they’re English…but well done to the ladies.

There’s some debate about how the women’s game is different to the men’s but one to ing is certain, I saw a lot less diving, theatrical rolling around on the pitch and they seemed far more able than the men to stay on their feet during a tackle :tu:

Paul 01-08-2022 15:05

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36130055)
I saw a lot less diving, theatrical rolling around on the pitch and they seemed far more able than the men to stay on their feet during a tackle :tu:

I wonder if that would still be the case if it ever got to the same level of popularity, and the same sums of money involved.

Having watched the highlights, it seems taking your shirt off and running around to celebrate a goal is still a thing. :erm: I wonder if she got booked for it.

Russ 01-08-2022 15:14

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Good point. I’m not sure I think that would change if the stakes were higher….in the best possible way I’d love to find out.

nomadking 01-08-2022 15:18

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36130055)
I can get over the fact they’re English…but well done to the ladies.

There’s some debate about how the women’s game is different to the men’s but one to ing is certain, I saw a lot less diving, theatrical rolling around on the pitch and they seemed far more able than the men to stay on their feet during a tackle :tu:

The thing noticed was that there tended to be a lot less oomph in all of their movements. As if it was an under-12 boys team. The lack of physicality would explain all that.

Damien 01-08-2022 15:33

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36130057)
I wonder if that would still be the case is it ever got to the same level of popularity, and the same sums of money involved.

Having watched the highlights, it seems taking your shirt off and running around to celebrate a goal is still a thing. :erm: I wonder if she got booked for it.

Yeah she got booked, same rules as the men's game.

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36130059)
The thing noticed was that there tended to be a lot less oomph in all of their movements. As if it was an under-12 boys team. The lack of physicality would explain all that.

Women's football is slower-paced. Not as fast and players aren't closed down as fast. You'll also notice that small mistakes aren't as quickly punished as they are in the men's game as a result.

nomadking 01-08-2022 15:43

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36130060)
Yeah she got booked, same rules as the men's game.



Women's football is slower-paced. Not as fast and players aren't closed down as fast. You'll also notice that small mistakes aren't as quickly punished as they are in the men's game as a result.

If there was an advantage to playing that way, men would've been doing that all along instead. If they could play like the men and it was an advantage over the other women's team, they would do so. Therefore women are unable to play at the same level as the men, just as an under-12s boys team would struggle against the men's team.

Damien 01-08-2022 17:16

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36130061)
If there was an advantage to playing that way, men would've been doing that all along instead. If they could play like the men and it was an advantage over the other women's team, they would do so. Therefore women are unable to play at the same level as the men, just as an under-12s boys team would struggle against the men's team.

No one said they can play at the same level as the men. I didn't say they were playing that way because it was an 'advantage', you seem to be trying to go out of your way to create a fight here.

nomadking 01-08-2022 18:12

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36130064)
No one said they can play at the same level as the men. I didn't say they were playing that way because it was an 'advantage', you seem to be trying to go out of your way to create a fight here.

No one? Really?:shocked: They demand the same pay and the same attention etc. as Premiership teams and the men's national squad. Are those in the National League demanding the same pay as those in the Premiership?
Same with so many other sports. Women are demanding the same pay for doing less and to a lower standard. Equality?

Just look at all the fuss in the media. How many of the "fans" are actually interested in football, rather than just the hype over women playing it?

peanut 01-08-2022 20:16

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Women's football is like women's tennis. There is a place for it but will never have the same command as the men's sport. I agree it's not for everyone but I don't think it's right to slate it or write it off. I thought their win was excellent and anything that inspires and create decent role models is a good thing.

admars 01-08-2022 20:28

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I went to the England NI match, and I had been to one of the world cup qualifiers a few years ago.

the atmosphere is brilliant, it's different to the men's, probably becuase it's more families, and couples, and not groups of men.

little things, like say a player has been good for 85 mins, and makes a mistake, you don't get ppl shouting they're a f-ing waste of space nd shouldn't be on the pitch ;)

also, I remember being impressed by Millie Bright's crossing of the ball, and I wouldn't like to have been on the receiving end of some of her tackles, not dirty, but crunching :)

Mr K 01-08-2022 20:51

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36130060)
Women's football is slower-paced. Not as fast and players aren't closed down as fast. You'll also notice that small mistakes aren't as quickly punished as they are in the men's game as a result.

They are equally as good, if not better, than men at the verbals (but we knew that already ! ;) )
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Jill Scott has become an internet sensation after being caught swearing at a rival player during the women’s Euro 2022 final on Sunday night.

Before England’s Lionesses secured their historic 2-1 victory against Germany at Wembley Stadium, the 35-year-old mid-fielder was pulled down to the ground by opposition player Sydney Lohmann.

Clearly furious by the challenge, Jill was then seen shouting and telling Sydney to ‘f*ck off you f*cking pr*ck’ – and her rant didn’t go unnoticed
https://metro.co.uk/2022/08/01/euro-...ders-17102206/

nomadking 01-08-2022 20:56

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The atmosphere will be different, because they are not really football fans. It could just as easily been synchronised knitting. No passion or fervour, other than women playing and they are playing for the "fans" country.
I wouldn't say I was especially a fan of football or any other sport, so I wouldn't all get worked up at a match. I might get worked up, if I thought an error had been made in a decision, but that's it.

Paul 01-08-2022 21:10

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It is, I would guess, the only way the Euro Cup is coming to England anytime in the next few years, the mens team has looked terrible in the last few games.

Hom3r 02-08-2022 12:36

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I spent Monday recovering, I guess loads of Vodka does that to you :D

TheDaddy 02-08-2022 15:28

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36129981)
Can't believe how the BBC have been pushing this so much when the squad is almost completely devoid of any non-white players. :td:

Also the constant comparisons with the men's team has been pathetic and completely irrelevant.

Thankfully it's over.

Sorry Den not for me....

Funny how the comparisons are only positive ones and we're told we can't compare the negative ones as they're different games, I used to enjoy womens football but I feel it's all a bit forced now, it didn't evolve as it should've and that will only continue since the premier league got involved, forced involvement to in some clubs cases to. In terms of quality I wouldn't want to say it's Sunday league but I doubt this team would survive at any level in the mens part time leagues, Birgit Prinz is still the only woman I've ever seen that could remotely cut it at some level in the football league.

Damien 02-08-2022 16:12

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36130143)
Funny how the comparisons are only positive ones and we're told we can't compare the negative ones as they're different games, I used to enjoy womens football but I feel it's all a bit forced now, it didn't evolve as it should've and that will only continue since the premier league got involved, forced involvement to in some clubs cases to. In terms of quality I wouldn't want to say it's Sunday league but I doubt this team would survive at any level in the mens part time leagues, Birgit Prinz is still the only woman I've ever seen that could remotely cut it at some level in the football league.

The quality has got a lot better in the last few years as the game has become more professionalised. It's evolved much faster in the last 5 years than any other time I can remember. Even watching this vs the last international tournament you can see the goalkeeping - whilst still poor - has got much better. Remember it's been in the last 10 or so years that the top women in England could build a career out of this so only around now are we seeing the first generation of female players who came through academies with the prospect of this being a career rather than a hobby.

Crowds are going up. Exposure is going up. TV Viewing figures are going up. It's a growing sport. Arsenal have started having more games at the Emirates.

As the comparisons with the men's game, it is worse. I think the top WSL/National teams would be matched up against their equivalents in the men's youth teams as that's about the level the managers of these teams want to start training against. Arsenal women training against the U16 Arsenal men's team for example.

TheDaddy 03-08-2022 16:09

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36130153)
The quality has got a lot better in the last few years as the game has become more professionalised. It's evolved much faster in the last 5 years than any other time I can remember. Even watching this vs the last international tournament you can see the goalkeeping - whilst still poor - has got much better. Remember it's been in the last 10 or so years that the top women in England could build a career out of this so only around now are we seeing the first generation of female players who came through academies with the prospect of this being a career rather than a hobby.

Crowds are going up. Exposure is going up. TV Viewing figures are going up. It's a growing sport. Arsenal have started having more games at the Emirates.

As the comparisons with the men's game, it is worse. I think the top WSL/National teams would be matched up against their equivalents in the men's youth teams as that's about the level the managers of these teams want to start training against. Arsenal women training against the U16 Arsenal men's team for example.

The goalkeeping has always been poor, England and Germany are the only countries who routinely produce decent goalkeepers, I think the goals are to big for them personally.

Training with is very different to playing against, you know the much vaunted USA womens team were losing so badly to Dallas U15's in 2015 the game was called off at halftime to save them from further embarrassment

Damien 03-08-2022 16:39

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36130224)
The goalkeeping has always been poor, England and Germany are the only countries who routinely produce decent goalkeepers, I think the goals are to big for them personally.

Training with is very different to playing against, you know the much vaunted USA womens team were losing so badly to Dallas U15's in 2015 the game was called off at halftime to save them from further embarrassment

I never heard of the game being called off. I know they lost it but that sounds about right to me. A professional youth team will have the technique and at that age, the physicality will start to tell. 5 - 2 isn't really embarrassing, especially as it was friendly.

But that game is what the professional WSL teams are looking to start emulating. Playing against the U16 teams to improve their ability to deal with pressure and play at speed.

In the end, the women's game has a lot of scope to get much better to the point where the general quality is quite high and we see more competitive games between the women's teams.


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