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Jaymoss

01-06-2022 22:35

Johnny Depp Wins Defamation Case

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...anada-61633236

If you watched any of it Amber Heard was obviously lying through her teeth throughout the trail. I am happy with the result. Depp should go after Disney and Rowling now for sacking him off due to the lies

The main case was Amber Heards report that she was a victim of domestic abuse and this is where she lost
She counter sued 2 of which were ruled out 1 upheld. Heards claims basically ruined his career

Depp awarded $15 million Heard $2 million so an award of $13 million to Depp

Hugh	01-06-2022 23:08

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Million…

Jaymoss

01-06-2022 23:09

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36124263)

Million…

corrected...

Mad Max

01-06-2022 23:10

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36124263)

Million…

I was just about to say that, Hugh.

Paul	01-06-2022 23:34

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36124264)

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You missed one ;)

As to the win ... good for him, she seemed an outright liar.

Jaymoss

01-06-2022 23:40

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36124267)

You missed one ;)

As to the win ... good for him, she seemed an outright liar.

cheers :) Hugh could have just edited it instead of making me look a fool but fair cop I am a fool hahaha

SnoopZ

01-06-2022 23:51

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I hope her carrier takes a nosedive and eventually Depp can rebuild his.

Julian

02-06-2022 00:00

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Excellent news.

Now we just need that vile witch vardy to lose her case.

Hugh	02-06-2022 00:41

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36124269)

cheers :) Hugh could have just edited it instead of making me look a fool but fair cop I am a fool hahaha

"Misunderstandings and lethargy perhaps produce more wrong in the world than deceit and malice do" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe*

Apologies for not just correcting it.

*also known as "Hanlon’s Razor" ;)

Jaymoss

02-06-2022 00:43

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36124274)

When I read that I thought you were justifying Heards BS. Thankfully that was not the case when I read the quote hahaha

Pierre

02-06-2022 01:02

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Amber Heard, pretty much just destroyed the “Me Too” movement. She has showed how women with power and agency, can use that to try and destroy a man’s reputation.

Thanks Amber!

Paul	02-06-2022 03:22

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36124262)

Depp awarded $15 million Heard $2 million so an award of $13 million to Depp

Apparently, not quite.

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Fairfax County Circuit Court Judge Penney Azcarate reduced the punitive damages the jury awarded Depp to $350,000, which is the state’s statutory cap, or legal limit, making his total damages $10.4 million (so $8.4 million on balance).

Ken W

02-06-2022 08:19

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36124264)

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I would have awarded him $10 only

Jaymoss

02-06-2022 11:52

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Originally Posted by Ken W (Post 36124283)

I would have awarded him $10 only

why? because you think it is ok for a woman to say a man is violent towards her in ways he is not? you think it is ok for a woman to have printed that a man is sexually violent? you think it is ok for a woman to try a destroy a mans life out of spite?

Sirius

02-06-2022 11:55

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Originally Posted by Ken W (Post 36124283)

I would have awarded him $10 only

Good job your not involved in the case then. Personally i think he should have been give a bigger pay-out as it was proved she lied through her teeth. Shame she cannot now be tried for lying under oath.

Ken W

02-06-2022 12:17

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36124292)

I thought that I was being generous

Maggy

02-06-2022 12:40

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The real losers in all this are those women who have a genuine case against an abuser but will be thinking very hard about actually taking an abuser to court or even to report abuse to the authorities. :erm:

I hope women and some men won't be put off to try and seek redress that they ARE owed.:(

nomadking

02-06-2022 12:59

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Erin Pizzey who can safely be described as having decades of knowledge on the matter.
Link

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Fifty years ago, the first sanctuary for "battered wives" opened its doors. It went on to become Refuge, the UK's largest single provider of help for those experiencing domestic violence.
Erin Pizzey, the woman who began it all in a small house in west London, later developed a theory that would lead her to leave the organisation and decry feminism. She now campaigns for men's rights.
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Ms Pizzey parted ways with the charity in the early 1980s after a disagreement revolving around feminism and her belief it was "anti-man" and forced women into the role of victim.
Her childhood was prominent in her mind when "feminists started demonising all fathers", as she puts it. The memories of both parents "reminded me of the truth - domestic violence is not a gender issue.
"I have never been a feminist, because, having experienced my mother's violence, I always knew that women can be as vicious and irresponsible as men."
Her stance now on domestic abuse is that violence is a family issue, usually intergenerational, and men and women are equally capable and culpable of it.

Itshim

02-06-2022 18:40

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36124262)

So British court got it wrong . Both can't be right , must trust jury over a trained judge . After all pulling down a statue ( whom ever it is) is not criminal damage according to a British jury .:shocked:

nomadking

02-06-2022 19:04

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36124309)

Did this trial use evidence that wasn't applied in the UK one? The UK one was solely about what he did or didn't do, whereas this one was about both of them.
IMO the UK decision was wrong on the basis that the evidence presented wasn't known at the time of the alleged defamation.

Paul	02-06-2022 19:17

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Originally Posted by Ken W (Post 36124293)

I thought that I was being generous

Then you clearly have no clue about the case.

Jaymoss

02-06-2022 19:28

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it is not alleged anymore

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I would go with a jury over a judge yes

On your logic a biased jury would tend to side with the women wouldn't they? isn't it normally men who are vilified in such cases. The evidence presented in court left me in no doubt Heard was lying and the psychiatric reports explained why she is the way she is. A lot of the evidence was not allowed by the judge in the UK trial if it had been there may well have been a different result

End of the day the only witness Heard had to any assault was her sister and Depp had plenty of witnesses that said differently ie hotel staff who were there at the time of alleged assaults bartenders first responders and on top of that Kate Moss who basically disproved one of the lies outright

nomadking

02-06-2022 19:32

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it is not alleged anymore

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I would go with a jury over a judge yes

My point being that they didn't know that at the time of the defamation. You can't defame somebody, and then start searching for evidence.

Pierre

02-06-2022 22:21

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She lied, throughout. That’s it.

Chris

03-06-2022 10:37

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36124317)

My point being that they didn't know that at the time of the defamation. You can't defame somebody, and then start searching for evidence.

Actually you can. If you can prove something you said is true, that’s a valid defence. Whether you had hard evidence at the time of printing is immaterial to the court case, albeit professionally irresponsible on the part of the publisher.

Itshim

03-06-2022 14:14

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36124315)

it is not alleged anymore

---------- Post added at 18:28 ---------- Previous post was at 18:27 ----------

I would go with a jury over a judge yes

On your logic a biased jury would tend to side with the women wouldn't they? isn't it normally men who are vilified in such cases. The evidence presented in court left me in no doubt Heard was lying and the psychiatric reports explained why she is the way she is. A lot of the evidence was not allowed by the judge in the UK trial if it had been there may well have been a different result

End of the day the only witness Heard had to any assault was her sister and Depp had plenty of witnesses that said differently ie hotel staff who were there at the time of alleged assaults bartenders first responders and on top of that Kate Moss who basically disproved one of the lies outright

Frankly a US jury is made up of the "simpler" members of the community , who are easily duped . Surggest that you look at the ,can't believe I am saying this , the BBC news web site and the article about why different courts came to different conclusions ;) in the past" we" have always tried for a jury . Look at OJ Simpson :shocked:

Damien

03-06-2022 14:20

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I didn’t follow the detail of the case but the whole being televised live, clipped for Twitter and social media, with fans appearing outside the court was very unedifying.

Jaymoss

03-06-2022 14:28

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my decision is from looking at the evidence and watching some of the testimony plus the diagnosis of Heard's mental condition and fake crying which was so obvious it hurt. When you call out a section of society as simpler and then spell suggest "surggest" now that is funny

just for reference I read that and blanket "seeing through" Darvo cases as false is a mistake because what about the time when it actually was them ?

The UK Judge rejecting evidence which the US court saw (and the public) is why I would not trust one man. If pleading not guilty to a crime I would always take trial by jury if it could lead to prison time over just sitting in front of a magistrate

TheDaddy

03-06-2022 15:05

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At least she can truthfully say Johnny beat her now...

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