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Raider999 09-03-2022 15:20

Latest boxes
 
Just had a call from Virgin with an offer for me to return.

Got a couple of questions

1) is 1Tb the maximum storage available?

2) the 2nd box - does it need cables to it or is it connected to the main box by wifi?

Thanks

BenMcr 09-03-2022 15:37

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Yes it's 1TB for new Virgin TV 360 installs and yes all boxes need the coax connection

Raider999 09-03-2022 15:41

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36116121)
Yes it's 1TB for new Virgin TV 360 installs and yes all boxes need the coax connection


Thanks for the prompt reply, unfortunately not the answers I was hoping for.

Jaymoss 09-03-2022 15:58

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There is a wifi box but it has no recording

BenMcr 09-03-2022 16:19

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36116124)
There is a wifi box but it has no recording

Also that's not widely available yet, it's still in trial

Jaymoss 09-03-2022 16:28

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36116126)
Also that's not widely available yet, it's still in trial

Thought that ended months ago and was told I can keep the box. Guess I should check the forum

BenMcr 09-03-2022 16:36

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I guess I should have said pilot rather than trial i.e. you can't yet order it on request.

Jaymoss 09-03-2022 16:40

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arrr that makes sense then

Raider999 09-03-2022 16:50

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SkyQ mini boxes are wifi - bedroom recently re-configured an re-decorated so wife won't be happy if the mini-box needs wires.

I was told the mini-box doesn't have recording capability so does this mean it is one of the wifi connected variety?

BenMcr 09-03-2022 17:17

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Nope. 360 Mini boxes still need coax for Live TV even though they connect over the home network for everything else including streaming recordings from the main box.

nodrogd 09-03-2022 19:17

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The coax connection allows VM to offer its UHD broadcast channels on mini boxes as well as main one. Something SkyQ minis cannot yet handle.

OLD BOY 09-03-2022 20:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36116120)
Just had a call from Virgin with an offer for me to return.

Got a couple of questions

1) is 1Tb the maximum storage available?

2) the 2nd box - does it need cables to it or is it connected to the main box by wifi?

Thanks

The 1TB box carries more content for your ‘recordings’ than you would think, because it takes many of them from on demand, which does not take up space on your box.

Also, if you have two boxes, they both record and so that doubles capacity. You can see the recordings on your second box from your main box and vice versa.

We are still lacking in the streaming department, but I expect this to change with time.

BenMcr 09-03-2022 20:50

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36116153)
Also, if you have two boxes, they both record and so that doubles capacity. You can see the recordings on your second box from your main box and vice versa.

If you're a new 360 customer you will only get one box with a hard drive. It's only existing V6 customers with more than one who get multiple recording boxes.

RobboEdin 09-03-2022 21:05

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36116153)
The 1TB box carries more content for your ‘recordings’ than you would think, because it takes many of them from on demand, which does not take up space on your box.

Not true. Recordings are physically recorded.

Raider999 09-03-2022 23:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36116153)
The 1TB box carries more content for your ‘recordings’ than you would think, because it takes many of them from on demand, which does not take up space on your box.

Also, if you have two boxes, they both record and so that doubles capacity. You can see the recordings on your second box from your main box and vice versa.

We are still lacking in the streaming department, but I expect this to change with time.

That would be fine, however I believe that is only available to customers who convert their V6 boxes to run as 360.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36116163)
If you're a new 360 customer you will only get one box with a hard drive. It's only existing V6 customers with more than one who get multiple recording boxes.

Is it possible to get 2 of the V6 boxes as I used to have?

RobboEdin 10-03-2022 00:00

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36116195)
Is it possible to get 2 of the V6 boxes as I used to have?

No, all new TV customers get TV 360 and MultiRoom boxes are the minibox.

Raider999 10-03-2022 12:13

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Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 36116203)
No, all new TV customers get TV 360 and MultiRoom boxes are the minibox.


Does anyone know the result of the wifi mini box trial?

Also when they are likely to be available?

cheekyangus 10-03-2022 15:05

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36116253)
Does anyone know the result of the wifi mini box trial?

Also when they are likely to be available?

If it's the trial/pilot I'm thinking of it was only for "Broadband-only" customers. Whether that's who it's for if it fully launches remains to be seen.

I was also under impression it wasn't a product that would be mixed with the conventional TV product as it it was aimed at a customer with different needs. So they wouldn't be mixing this streaming-only service in a way that it would link with TV360 boxes, even though they are seemingly both using Horizon. Maybe that had changed (or never was, it was an impression I got from what was said at the time).

Raider999 10-03-2022 18:37

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36116270)
If it's the trial/pilot I'm thinking of it was only for "Broadband-only" customers. Whether that's who it's for if it fully launches remains to be seen.

I was also under impression it wasn't a product that would be mixed with the conventional TV product as it it was aimed at a customer with different needs. So they wouldn't be mixing this streaming-only service in a way that it would link with TV360 boxes, even though they are seemingly both using Horizon. Maybe that had changed (or never was, it was an impression I got from what was said at the time).


Why would a wifi TV box be supplied to 'Broadband-only' customers??

cheekyangus 10-03-2022 19:14

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36116296)
Why would a wifi TV box be supplied to 'Broadband-only' customers??

Assuming it's the same trial/pilot, and it probably is, it was suggested at the time that it was designed to be aimed at (a gap in the market of) people who are only a little interested in TV and would never go for a full proper package, as they are mainly interested in On-Demand Apps. People who only have Broadband from VM are typically the sort that fall into this category. They gave the impression it wasn't a full service and was mostly Apps.

And it wouldn't take much of a change to allow all customers to use it eventually, so they can scale the service up at a comfortable rate rather than have too much demand and it impact service quality. It could well launch to all customers, and it could also be expanded to a full service. I'd discount nothing, companies change their minds between pilots and launches.

Mad Max 10-03-2022 19:29

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Are there plans to replace all the V6 boxes?

BenMcr 10-03-2022 19:45

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36116300)
Are there plans to replace all the V6 boxes?

V6 boxes will likely eventually all become 360 boxes.

cheekyangus 10-03-2022 20:16

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36116303)
V6 boxes will likely eventually all become 360 boxes.

They need to give plenty warning if they go that route, unless they've managed a way to keep recordings intact.

BenMcr 10-03-2022 20:21

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36116304)
They need to give plenty warning if they go that route, unless they've managed a way to keep recordings intact.

Yes there would be notice but remember that all V+ HD boxes got swapped to TiVo or V6 without keeping any settings or recordings.

cheekyangus 10-03-2022 20:38

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36116307)
Yes there would be notice but remember that all V+ HD boxes got swapped to TiVo or V6 without keeping any settings or recordings.

To my recollection, most people were off that platform by then and got plenty notice in that instance. And customers think of it differently when they are getting new hardware, a software update comes with different expectations, even when you get a new remote control.

Mr K 10-03-2022 20:45

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36116303)
V6 boxes will likely eventually all become 360 boxes.

Never mind V6s , what about Tivo's? Tempted to accidentally break mine. Maybe that's why I haven't been given a price rise this year ;)

BenMcr 10-03-2022 21:21

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36116310)
Never mind V6s , what about Tivo's? Tempted to accidentally break mine. Maybe that's why I haven't been given a price rise this year ;)

Currently you'll get another TiVo.

Mr K 10-03-2022 21:59

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36116313)
Currently you'll get another TiVo.

Bet if I cancelled I'd be offered whatever box I wanted ;)

RichardCoulter 10-03-2022 22:13

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36116303)
V6 boxes will likely eventually all become 360 boxes.

Do you have any idea of when this is likely to happen?

BenMcr 10-03-2022 22:37

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36116318)
Bet if I cancelled I'd be offered whatever box I wanted ;)

That's a different situation than if it breaks.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36116322)
Do you have any idea of when this is likely to happen?

Nope.

cheekyangus 11-03-2022 10:05

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36116313)
Currently you'll get another TiVo.

Thought that was only the case if you didn't have VM Broadband as V6/TV360 don't have built-in internet access?

BenMcr 11-03-2022 10:34

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All TiVo faults are like for like swaps at the moment, there isn't currently a swap out to V6 as there was before Covid hit.

cheekyangus 11-03-2022 14:10

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36116343)
All TiVo faults are like for like swaps at the moment, there isn't currently a swap out to V6 as there was before Covid hit.

Thanks, BenMcr

Itshim 11-03-2022 18:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36116343)
All TiVo faults are like for like swaps at the moment, there isn't currently a swap out to V6 as there was before Covid hit.

And if it was a V6 do you get another ?

BenMcr 11-03-2022 19:00

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36116386)
And if it was a V6 do you get another ?

Yes. Any move from V6 to 360 isn't triggered by a fault. It's always a separate request.


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