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daveoc14

07-01-2022 11:11

Change BBC1HD Series Links

Just gone into my V6 with 360 box and there is a message onscreen saying series links on BBC1HD 108 will need to be changed from January 11th.

It does not say why but perhaps they are moving to HD on channel 101 from that date?.

cheekyangus

07-01-2022 11:43

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Probably. I can't remember what happened when BBC1 Scotland HD moved to 101.

Media Boy UK

07-01-2022 11:46

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36108398)

Probably. I can't remember what happened when BBC1 Scotland HD moved to 101.

Information was on the Home page via Discovery Bar (at the top) when you press "Home".

On Screen info was given for STV was getting axe to make way for STV HD to be given Channel 103 in Scotland.

SonicMaster

07-01-2022 12:29

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Hmmm, to warrant the disruption of everyone having to update their series links it must be something worthwhile, like the launch of all BBC One regions in HD and put on channel 101 in the EPG.

Media Boy UK

07-01-2022 12:33

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36108406)

Hmmm, to warrant the disruption of everyone having to update their series links it must be something worthwhile, like the launch of all BBC One regions in HD and put on channel 101 in the EPG.

Digital Bit Rate says that Virgin Media an local BBC One HD channel in Liverpool area. And RXTV says BBC will launch all new BBC One HD Channels by July 2022.

That all I know at time of posting.

japitts

07-01-2022 18:33

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Originally Posted by daveoc14 (Post 36108386)

Just gone into my V6 with 360 box and there is a message onscreen saying series links on BBC1HD 108 will need to be changed from January 11th.

360 users are getting this message, but not TiVo/V6 users.

Presumably TiVo-software's ability to have multi-channel series links, is not unrelated to this.

OLD BOY

07-01-2022 19:02

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Originally Posted by japitts (Post 36108441)

360 users are getting this message, but not TiVo/V6 users.

Presumably TiVo-software's ability to have multi-channel series links, is not unrelated to this.

Or maybe it's simply that BBC1 regions are about to go HD and the 360s will carry only BBC1HD henceforth.

japitts

07-01-2022 19:20

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That's also quite feasible - it's only the SD-regions that would otherwise prevent an HD-swap.

OLD BOY

07-01-2022 20:19

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Yes, can’t see any other reason for doing it.

Media Boy UK

07-01-2022 20:34

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epsilon was reporting the following (See link) in late November 2021:

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...bc-one-hd.html

epsilon

07-01-2022 22:11

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As I have posted in the "changes" thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36108492)

It will probably be BBC One HD England but allocated to regional service IDs. The regional SIDs were added some time ago but the NIT hasn't yet been updated. Presumably, the change coming next week will simply be the NIT being updated. Nothing is actually testing as such, the old England SID and the new regional SIDs link to the same video and audio streams. Virgin will then be prepared to switch to the actual HD regional services as soon as they become available.

The 858 HD service IDs probably won't be added until the actual HD regions are available.

BenMcr

11-01-2022 17:44

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Just to point out, if you've set up a personal favourites channel list in a profile, you'll need to re-add BBC One HD to that too.

OLD BOY

11-01-2022 19:06

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So, I went into my 360 today, only to find that my recordings on BBC1HD had already been removed. So I put them back in. I’m not sure why it was necessary to do that - BBC1HD is still on channel 108, but I’m sure there’s some technical reason.

I have recordings set on channel 101 (for South Today). Presumably, that will just disappear come the changeover, so I’ll have to set it to record all over again. Except I won’t because I record the News At Ten with an hour added on at the end to cover over-runs, so these recordings will also embrace South Today when the time comes.

epsilon

11-01-2022 20:03

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36108915)

So, I went into my 360 today, only to find that my recordings on BBC1HD had already been removed. So I put them back in. I’m not sure why it was necessary to do that - BBC1HD is still on channel 108, but I’m sure there’s some technical reason.

I have recordings set on channel 101 (for South Today). Presumably, that will just disappear come the changeover, so I’ll have to set it to record all over again. Except I won’t because I record the News At Ten with an hour added on at the end to cover over-runs, so these recordings will also embrace South Today when the time comes.

The BBC One HD service on 108 in England has been replaced with 14 new services to prepare for the launch of regional versions. I'm not sure how you expect the 360 to know which of these new services has replaced the old. :D

BenMcr

11-01-2022 20:50

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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36108942)

I'm not sure how you expect the 360 to know which of these new services has replaced the old. :D

Worth a little distinction now I guess - currently it can't be told as far as I understand. That's not to say that a future update could allow it to then.

Although apart from Channel 4 / 4 HD England, I'm not sure there will be another change line this anytime soon.

epsilon

11-01-2022 22:15

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36108949)

4 HD is already split into regional versions all (currently) carrying the London advertising edition, so that ship has also sailed. Unless you want to reinvent the wheel. ;)

BenMcr

11-01-2022 22:21

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Fair enough. I had thought the reason C4 HD wasn't on 104 in most of England is that they hadn't split the non London regions. Obviously another reason.

epsilon

11-01-2022 22:34

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Possibly just waiting for Channel 4 to start providing the extra HD feeds and that roll-out schedule was severely disrupted by the incident at RBM White City.

SonicMaster

12-01-2022 12:25

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Hmmm. Something odd happened last night that must be related to this.

I had a Series Link+ setup for Rules of the Game set to 'All Channels' and 'Record in HD if possible', but it recorded the version on 101 (BBC One South West) rather than 108 (BBC One HD).

cheekyangus

12-01-2022 13:08

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36109028)

I've always been convinced the All Channels and Record HD If Possible have a channel number hierarchy element to their algorithm, because if the SD channel is at a more prominent number it almost always picks the SD over HD.

ozsat

12-01-2022 16:22

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It has always worked with the HD being picked which is further down the EPG then the SD version. Has always worked on BBC, ITV, Sky etc. - so no reason to think a Series Link+ will still not work that way. I hope it will still work.

oliver1948uk

12-01-2022 16:59

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When on 101 on the V6 box, pressing the blue button immediately selected 108 (HD). This no longer works on my box.

cheekyangus

12-01-2022 18:11

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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36109093)

It very often didn't for us, hence my previous post. :(

Media Boy UK

12-01-2022 19:36

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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36108959)

Possibly just waiting for Channel 4 to start providing the extra HD feeds and that roll-out schedule was severely disrupted by the incident at RBM White City.

Reports I have seen says NEW Channel 4 HD will launch by July 2022 - somewhere on the web last month.

BenMcr

14-01-2022 12:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oliver1948uk (Post 36109097)

When on 101 on the V6 box, pressing the blue button immediately selected 108 (HD). This no longer works on my box.

This should now work again.

SonicMaster

14-01-2022 15:21

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36109468)

This should now work again.

Still not working for me, on a V6 box.

Richardr

15-01-2022 10:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36108915)

I have recordings set on channel 101 (for South Today). Presumably, that will just disappear come the changeover, so I’ll have to set it to record all over again. Except I won’t because I record the News At Ten with an hour added on at the end to cover over-runs, so these recordings will also embrace South Today when the time comes.

It is unclear at this point whether Virgin Media will continue to carry all of the SD regions - I guess these may well continue for a while, but get reduced as time goes on.

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