Virgin Media Customers Sued for Piracy
 

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Did VM contest it? They dont say they did, so they probably just rolled over and dished out the details of their customers. Nice of them.

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That doesn't say they contested the court order, just that there was a court order. If VM didn't contest, of course it was granted.

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Is this only related to Torrents?

I've not used Torrents for donkeys years.

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Yes just torrents. Could all have been avoided with a VPN so no sympathy for them.

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I've never even heard of a movie called "Ava" If it's only rated 16% then who would want to download it? :shrug:

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yeah you should always wear a raincoat as it were

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Do you use a VPN as i know you Torrent alot?

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I don't but I have membership of a private tracker whos members are by invitation only. Also only the tracker is used to reference peers. No local discovery.

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I actually really liked it

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And your age :D

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Do people really try this without VPN or a proxy server nowadays? To access most torrent sites in this country you need VPN to get around the blocks ISPs put on. Having done that, why did they then disconnect their VPN?

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Not necessarily, SH3 had a vulnerability for a few months whereby peoples ‘real’ ip addresses have been obtained whilst using VPN’s

VPN’s don’t offer the level of security that most people believe

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You have a link for that?

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Not that you couldn’t have googled it yourself, however

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...s-vpn-ips.html

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/ports...-media-routers

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Is this a scenario where a glitch could be deployed as a weapon? Is there a circumstance where an ISP, determined to prevent customers from using the service to commit piracy, might build in a modem exploit that enables sanctioned sniffers to detect ones IP address, even if hiding behind VPN for the purpose of concealing identity.

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I doubt it as the exploit is only in the sh3, what i don’t doubt is that this vulnerability has been exposed for months and is still not fixed as of yet.

Iirc an IP address is not a legally viable means of identifying an individual anyways, these letters USUALlY end up nowhere.

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There's a big difference between what is possible if somebody goes to enough lengths and that which is exposed simply by using a P2P system.
With P2P systems you "advertise" that you have parts of an item, from which others can download from you. That is what these cases look out for. They don't do an in-depth investigation.

By "advertising" that people can also download parts from you, you are effectively issuing copies of that item. That is the aspect that's causes these issues, not simply the downloading part of the system.

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They still have to go to a lot of trouble to target an individual, and might get into trouble themselves for doing it.

If I'm reading it right, it can only work if the user can be persuaded to visit particular websites that are "infected" with this exploit. How likely is that?:rolleyes:

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For anyone who doesn't have a VPN, and would like one, SurfShark are doing 2 years for £43.92 (then £43.92 a year after that) - the reviews are good (up there with NordVPN).

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Very

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I suspect that you also have to allow scripting, which I normally block for all but white listed sites and even then only trusted scripts.

Scripts will execute without you even clicking on anything, so called "drive by shooting", unless blocked.

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You can of course block uploading on a client, and state you did so.
So unless they have logs showing they actually downloaded pieces from you, that argument is pretty dead

Im sure I also read that it can be argued that parts (peices) are useless on their own (partial, non working downloads are a common problem) so its unlikely anyone downloaded a complete (working) copy just from you (or anyone specific).

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You would still have to visit whatever sites have that exploit. We're not talking about any site they choose eg BBC News or this one.

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Don't use P2P myself.
In which case they wouldn't have your IP address in the first place. I thought they can only use IP addresses that "advertise" they have content X.
Downloads are not seen as the issue, although it still breaks copyright. They're not focussed on who has downloaded anything, but who has uploaded it.

Not sure they could ever prove that somebody else managed to download every single part from a particular person. Would that make these court cases invalid? If each part is small(short) enough, would a single part be covered by "fair use"?

I thought the whole notion of P2P was not to have people having to all download from the one source. The download impact is shared around.

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Why pay? ProtonVPN works for me. Lightweight and ad free. I don't do torrents but it allows me to watch away matches on a Saturday afternoon (only allowed for those overseas). Its a win win for me and my club (as I still pay them to watch from 'Amsterdam,'!) , unless they lose.... ;)

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Because I believe in supporting businesses to enable them continue supplying me services - at £1 a week, with unlimited connections, this enables all my & my family’s devices to be more secure, especially when out and about using public wifi.

TANSTAAFL

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'TANSTAAFL' . . another of those obscure Austrian outposts you were seconded to?

;) :D

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Getting worried ,yet again I totally agree with you :shocked:

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I watched a pirated copy of ET on a VCR when it first came out. I’m fairly certain I’ve not watched any pirated films since.
Do you think they will be able to trace me?

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What I meant was, could the glitch that is being exploited, be replicated deliberately elsewhere?

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NO!