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Media Boy UK 04-08-2021 20:38

Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
An Cable Forum poster has told me today that Virgin Media have started Beta Testing an new box this week - Base info we have it mixed up to look like an fire stick and TV360 box.

ash45 04-08-2021 20:47

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36088541)
An Cable Forum poster has told me today that Virgin Media have started Beta Testing an new box this week - Base info we have it mixed up to look like an fire stick and TV360 box.

ive got one coming tomorrow by the dreaded yodel lol, for obvious reasons cant really delve into too many details but i dont think its going to be replacing the current setup anytime soon

ScottishSteve 04-08-2021 21:20

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
This will be the streaming box for broadband only customers that is being beta tested by users through the virgin online forum

Jaymoss 04-08-2021 23:02

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
Well he broke the NDA then didn't he ;)

epsilon 05-08-2021 01:10

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
I wonder what the NDA actually covers, bearing in mind that the beta tests are fairly common knowledge.

fox35 05-08-2021 08:06

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36088541)
An Cable Forum poster has told me today that Virgin Media have started Beta Testing an new box this week - Base info we have it mixed up to look like an fire stick and TV360 box.

Im pretty sure it will be the UK version of this...
https://www-upc-pl.translate.goog/te...jax,sc,elem,se
more here..
https://www.digitaltveurope.com/comm...used-strategy/

1701-e 05-08-2021 09:21

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
"Now you can record up to 50 hours which will be available for 90 days". Backwards steps.... Sunny future of streaming boxes?

tweetiepooh 05-08-2021 09:58

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
The NDA often states more than you think but I can't share more.

Jaymoss 05-08-2021 10:09

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36088569)
I wonder what the NDA actually covers, bearing in mind that the beta tests are fairly common knowledge.

Quite comprehensive

fox35 05-08-2021 11:02

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36088586)
The NDA often states more than you think but I can't share more.

Well its quite clear the new mini streaming box is the UPC Liberty Global Poland device which I detailed above and has been in use for 12 months now. So why VM are using NDAs for the UK beta testing of this product is rather pointless imo.

epsilon 05-08-2021 16:49

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36088588)
Quite comprehensive

I don't doubt it but, given that Virgin publicly announced the trial, the cat is out of the bag. Streaming devices are available in Liberty's other markets, so the only real "secret" is the actual content available.

Taf 05-08-2021 17:15

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...there will be no cables or satellites involved in content delivery
Magic? Or wifi?

OLD BOY 05-08-2021 19:24

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
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Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36088581)
"Now you can record up to 50 hours which will be available for 90 days". Backwards steps.... Sunny future of streaming boxes?

Yes, but that’s a conscious decision made, egged on by the content makers who want to limit our ability to time-shift viewing to maximise their profits. It’s nothing to do with the technology. I think it’s only a matter of time before we find that everything we have recorded on our Sky or Virgin boxes is deleted after 90 days.

I would far rather we could take out a subscription and watch any programme we liked from the cloud. We could be permitted a reasonable amount of content per month, which would be dependent on how new the content was.

I don’t appreciate being pressured to watch programmes from a series within a strict time-frame. We are not all binge watchers and some of us have lives beyond the TV screen.

Itshim 05-08-2021 21:38

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
Never had anything that is 20 days old never mind 90

OLD BOY 05-08-2021 21:42

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36088730)
Never had anything that is 20 days old never mind 90

That says to me that you tend to view on live TV. Not the most productive means of viewing, but each to his own.

Itshim 05-08-2021 21:55

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36088732)
That says to me that you tend to view on live TV. Not the most productive means of viewing, but each to his own.

No never watch live other news . But tend to watch an hour or so later to skip ads etc . Just looked at what l recorded to watch later in the week box at 4% never seen it over 10% . The main thing is that the shows I like tend to be on between 8 and 11 pm so back up slightly . But hardly last over 5 days . Try never to have more than 1 of any drama ( ie Chicago pd etc) on but other types ie house builds etc add up to more than one .

jfman 05-08-2021 22:08

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36088702)
Yes, but that’s a conscious decision made, egged on by the content makers who want to limit our ability to time-shift viewing to maximise their profits. It’s nothing to do with the technology. I think it’s only a matter of time before we find that everything we have recorded on our Sky or Virgin boxes is deleted after 90 days.

On what basis? The technology to do so has existed since Sky+ launched in 2002 yet nobody at any point has considered such a content limitation - indeed it is widely recognised that viewers would reject it therefore Sky and Virgin have no intention of doing so.

Indeed - if we're at the threshold where millions of people are going to cancel anyway because generic Marvel Movie 14 is exclusive to Disney+ and Discovery are repeating old documentaries on their old platform why would they bother after all this time?

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I would far rather we could take out a subscription and watch any programme we liked from the cloud. We could be permitted a reasonable amount of content per month, which would be dependent on how new the content was.
Pay as you go television removes the economies of scales that make platforms viable.

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I don’t appreciate being pressured to watch programmes from a series within a strict time-frame. We are not all binge watchers and some of us have lives beyond the TV screen.
Indeed, some people like the glacial pace of one episode a week.

Hugh 05-08-2021 22:22

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36088732)
That says to me that you tend to view on live TV. Not the most productive means of viewing, but each to his own.

Or…

He doesn’t watch a lot of TV.

epsilon 05-08-2021 22:25

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36088702)
I don’t appreciate being pressured to watch programmes from a series within a strict time-frame. We are not all binge watchers and some of us have lives beyond the TV screen.

By 2035 this may be the norm. ;)

Carth 05-08-2021 22:28

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
By 2035, TV viewing will consist of extreme weather warnings, global disaster updates . . . and adverts ;)

epsilon 05-08-2021 22:30

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Lots of adverts, even on the premium services. All unskippable. ;)

tweetiepooh 06-08-2021 11:09

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36088730)
Never had anything that is 20 days old never mind 90

We have stuff years old, occasionally we watch again. Some is being repeated so we could rerecord, others not.

Itshim 06-08-2021 15:01

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36088793)
We have stuff years old, occasionally we watch again. Some is being repeated so we could rerecord, others not.

Not alot to be said about that . Do it with books but not TV.

OLD BOY 06-08-2021 20:34

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36088742)
Or…

He doesn’t watch a lot of TV.

Nor do I. That’s why when I do sit down to watch, I’m watching something to my taste and without ads.

Hugh 06-08-2021 20:43

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36088870)
Nor do I. That’s why when I do sit down to watch, I’m watching something to my taste and without ads.

Well done, you…

OLD BOY 06-08-2021 20:46

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36088871)
Well done, you…

It’s just common sense.

Hugh 06-08-2021 21:14

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36088872)
It’s just common sense.

is it common sense, if you don’t watch much TV, to subscribe to Now TV, Amazon, Netflix, Starzplay, Apple TV, & Discovery+?

Itshim 07-08-2021 13:33

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36088873)
is it common sense, if you don’t watch much TV, to subscribe to Now TV, Amazon, Netflix, Starzplay, Apple TV, & Discovery+?

Find enough with virgin + Netflix.

jfman 07-08-2021 13:44

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36088873)
is it common sense, if you don’t watch much TV, to subscribe to Now TV, Amazon, Netflix, Starzplay, Apple TV, & Discovery+?

Not to mention two full V6 boxes!

Carth 07-08-2021 13:55

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Does anyone else wonder if Old Boy runs a hotel? :D

jfman 07-08-2021 18:59

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36088896)
Does anyone else wonder if Old Boy runs a hotel? :D

His Mrs maybe. He spends his days reading blogs by media marketing firms promoting streaming.

Itshim 08-08-2021 19:59

Re: Virgin Media set to launch new box.
 
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36088736)
No never watch live other news . But tend to watch an hour or so later to skip ads etc . Just looked at what l recorded to watch later in the week box at 4% never seen it over 10% . The main thing is that the shows I like tend to be on between 8 and 11 pm so back up slightly . But hardly last over 5 days . Try never to have more than 1 of any drama ( ie Chicago pd etc) on but other types ie house builds etc add up to more than one .

Always thought bi watch too much TV! Counts it up 30 mins first thing / one of the two times aday that it's live ( news bbbc,sky,CNN,GB news) mid morning 30 mins or so nearly always HGTV . If an hour show that finish around 1:30 pm . New s around 6 pm ('30-45mins) then recording /Netflix from around 8pm to about 11pm .:rolleyes:


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