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RichardCoulter 07-07-2021 18:27

Sky Cinema offer.
 
Yesterday I was offered Sky Movies for £16.01 a month from an unsolicited phone call.

When I said that it wasn't worth it, this came down to £11.01 and she would be making the change today. Once again I had to reiterate that she should not touch my account and leave it alone. I can't stand these attempts to manipulate people, it's beyond upselling, it's pure manipulation.

Eventually she said it would only cost £6.01 a month more and would protect me from price rises for 18 months.

They said that last time, but still tried to increase my bill after the last price increase until I rang to complain. In the end they negated the price rise & knocked a bit more off for the inconvenience.

This also shows that accepting this offer puts one into another 18 month contract; something that was never mentioned. This sly way of operating could be useful though, as it would be very difficult to hold someone to a contract that they were not advised that they were entering into.

I'm posting this as it might help anyone who actually wants Sky Cinema (even in it's present state) ie refuse the first offers to get it even cheaper, but beware of the pitfalls

GrimUpNorth 07-07-2021 20:33

Re: Sky Cinema offer.
 
Didn't you just post about this in another thread you started a couple of days ago? Why do we need to know all about it again?

Hugh 07-07-2021 20:52

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Careful…

*cough cough* lawyers *cough cough*

;)

GrimUpNorth 07-07-2021 21:05

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36085589)
Careful…

*cough cough* lawyers *cough cough*

;)

Been there, done that.

RichardCoulter 07-07-2021 22:18

Re: Sky Cinema offer.
 
Judging by the only replies received it seems that there's little point in posting things to try & be helpful to other members any more.

Carth 07-07-2021 22:45

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Can we have that in writi . . . oh ;)

1701-e 08-07-2021 07:18

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Why don't you update your preferences with Virgin media to not have promotional calls..... Then you won't get these sales calls

RichardCoulter 08-07-2021 12:52

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Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36085625)
Why don't you update your preferences with Virgin media to not have promotional calls..... Then you won't get these sales calls

Because I might be interested in what they have to offer, I've had 24/7 free calls & virtually free Sky Cinema from them in the past.

I aways try to save us both time by asking them to cut to the chase, but they insist on reading their script "how are you today", "what's the weather like" in an attempt to build an artificial rapport before trying to upsell with the aid of lies & manipulation.

They can be useful for getting good deals, but you have to watch your back with them.

david_w2k 08-07-2021 15:02

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Personally I like the fact there is room for negotiation with VM - does take a little bit of effort but can save money vs. standard prices. My Oomph renewal started at £110 as best offer but managed to get it for £99 (I think the call handler felt sorry for me in the end as I got back through to him again lol)

RichardCoulter 08-07-2021 15:30

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Originally Posted by david_w2k (Post 36085669)
Personally I like the fact there is room for negotiation with VM - does take a little bit of effort but can save money vs. standard prices. My Oomph renewal started at £110 as best offer but managed to get it for £99 (I think the call handler felt sorry for me in the end as I got back through to him again lol)

That's good :)

I forgot to mention that the one that rang me tried to "upgrade' me from Full House to their current top pack. This costs more in return for not having the children's channels!!!

epsilon 08-07-2021 21:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36085673)
That's good :)

I forgot to mention that the one that rang me tried to "upgrade' me from Full House to their current top pack. This costs more in return for not having the children's channels!!!

I guess the old Full House will not be aggressively updated in future, channels will disappear as the close and new channels may not be added. COLORS Gujarati could be an example of this, it wasn't added to the old Full House whereas the older COLORS channels are included.

I don't get many calls from Virgin, the only calls I seem to get are from a South Asian tech support guy asking about problems with my internet. I doubt these are genuine calls, I keep asking questions to find out how much technical knowledge they have (which is not a lot!). Eventually he hangs up. I hate scams.

RichardCoulter 08-07-2021 21:57

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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36085711)
I guess the old Full House will not be aggressively updated in future, channels will disappear as the close and new channels may not be added. COLORS Gujarati could be an example of this, it wasn't added to the old Full House whereas the older COLORS channels are included.

I don't get many calls from Virgin, the only calls I seem to get are from a South Asian tech support guy asking about problems with my internet. I doubt these are genuine calls, I keep asking questions to find out how much technical knowledge they have (which is not a lot!). Eventually he hangs up. I hate scams.

These days there's little difference between these offshore call centre people and VM :D

Using these cheapo places also helps the scammers as VM customers are no longer surprised to hear a foreign sounding person call them purporting to be from the company.

Itshim 09-07-2021 17:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by david_w2k (Post 36085669)
Personally I like the fact there is room for negotiation with VM - does take a little bit of effort but can save money vs. standard prices. My Oomph renewal started at £110 as best offer but managed to get it for £99 (I think the call handler felt sorry for me in the end as I got back through to him again lol)

When l contacted them my first offer was the package l am on with a price increase !!!:confused: took over two hours ( on screen chat) to get a deal and three names ,could have been the same person for all I know! Happy with an 18 month deal with a decrease of £11.50 per month.

RichardCoulter 09-07-2021 22:49

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36085760)
When l contacted them my first offer was the package l am on with a price increase !!!:confused: took over two hours ( on screen chat) to get a deal and three names ,could have been the same person for all I know! Happy with an 18 month deal with a decrease of £11.50 per month.

You took up two hours of their time? I bet they were glad to see the back of you.

Sounds like you aren't as rich as you like to make out if you were that desperate to save under three quid a week.

Itshim 10-07-2021 09:11

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36085803)
You took up two hours of their time? I bet they were glad to see the back of you.

Sounds like you aren't as rich as you like to make out if you were that desperate to save under three quid a week.

No they came back three times over that time scale. Unlike you . I just do not wish to pay more than I have too . Guess that why you have so many problems cheap is not the same as best value for money. What is true is that looking after the pennies and the pounds look after them selves. As l can afford to spend as much time as l like on anything l wish l do.

Itshim 10-07-2021 14:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36085803)
You took up two hours of their time? I bet they were glad to see the back of you.

Sounds like you aren't as rich as you like to make out if you were that desperate to save under three quid a week.

Took your lead contacted Vodafone . Said your name my god what a quick reaction. :shocked: new I phone on its way ,free sim for ever and a direct number to both there CEO but also Virgin so l can use that contract instead of Vodafone. What a deal. Folks Richard has such a scary effect on the Tec companies of the uk . You just need to say you are a friend of his:D

Stephen 10-07-2021 21:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36085803)
You took up two hours of their time? I bet they were glad to see the back of you.

Sounds like you aren't as rich as you like to make out if you were that desperate to save under three quid a week.

Nothing wrong with trying to get the best value deal for your money.

If you don't take their first offers they will usually increase the discount, they claim is the best they can do. I managed to get my full Sky package renewed this week for £8 a month less than initially offered as the 'best' deal. Nothing to do with how rich or poor a person is. Saving money where you can is a great thing.

Costs nothing to be nice and have a chat with them. Friendliness goes a long way.

RichardCoulter 10-07-2021 21:37

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36085858)
Nothing wrong with trying to get the best value deal for your money.

If you don't take their first offers they will usually increase the discount, they claim is the best they can do. I managed to get my full Sky package renewed this week for £8 a month less than initially offered as the 'best' deal. Nothing to do with how rich or poor a person is. Saving money where you can is a great thing.

Costs nothing to be nice and have a chat with them. Friendliness goes a long way.

Yeah, that's what I found with the Sky Cinema offer. I genuinely didn't want it (unless it was offered at a quid a month or something daft). But each time I refused it the price came down!

I have had it for virtually nothing before, but over a year there was only 4 films that I really enjoyed and a similar number that were so so.

It's even worse now as a lot of filming was disrupted because of covid.

Stephen 10-07-2021 21:55

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Well according to Sky I have watched 88 films in the last 12 months. I watch a lot of movies, old or new. Many of them multiple times. That in addition to my 500+ DVDs and Blu-Rays as well as Netflix and Disney+. I've not been working for past 2 years due to ill health and its not likely to change anytime soon.making it harder to get out and about nowadays my condition progresses.

RichardCoulter 11-07-2021 00:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36085865)
Well according to Sky I have watched 88 films in the last 12 months. I watch a lot of movies, old or new. Many of them multiple times. That in addition to my 500+ DVDs and Blu-Rays as well as Netflix and Disney+. I've not been working for past 2 years due to ill health and its not likely to change anytime soon.making it harder to get out and about nowadays my condition progresses.

I'm sorry to hear that Stephen.

It sounds like you get your moneys worth if you watch roughly two films a week. Isn't Sky Cinema about £10 a month with Sky? If so, that works out at about £1.25 per film.

I didn't know that Sky told their customers how many films they'd watched; I don't think that VM do that. Will these have been via on demand? If so, I wonder if they'd be able to tally up how many you'd watched on their linear film channels??

Stephen 11-07-2021 00:31

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No on the channels. I got an email last week telling me how much tv I've watched over 12 months. 1750 hrs lol, how many different TV shows. Most watched channels etc.

With discount the movies are £9 a month. Sports is £16 a month Inc HD and UHD.

I'll be fine eventually. Getting dialysis and waiting on a kidney/pancreas transplant. So I'm done in currently.

Paul 11-07-2021 01:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36085803)
Sounds like you aren't as rich as you like to make out if you were that desperate to save under three quid a week.

Hes that rich becasue he saves money rather than wastes it ;)

---------- Post added at 01:48 ---------- Previous post was at 01:44 ----------

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36085842)
My complaint about your inappropriate comments was resolved by Mick in 2018.

Conversation closed.

Resolved ..... right :rolleyes:

This conversation [topic] is not closed, you dont have that power.

If you start back in your old ways again, you will find yourself on a forum break again. Stop it.

Itshim 11-07-2021 11:40

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36085878)
Hes that rich becasue he saves money rather than wastes it ;)

Thank you quite right ,and Ricard a) I am a higher rate tax payer so what. B) have blue badge don't see what that has to do with your Danish roots :D

nialli 12-07-2021 11:49

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Sky Cinema has been a wasteland since Covid closed the cinemas and shows no sign of improving now that they've reopened. If I picked apart my Oomph deal and signed up for the individual elements Cinema would be dropped like a stone. Film4 has more variety, Disney+ has all the kids films you could ever want and I can always find more of interest on Netflix.
As OP suggests, they can't even give it away right now

Stephen 12-07-2021 11:53

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There might not be as many new Premier films showing but there is still a massive selection of 000s of films to watch.

RichardCoulter 12-07-2021 14:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36085877)
No on the channels. I got an email last week telling me how much tv I've watched over 12 months. 1750 hrs lol, how many different TV shows. Most watched channels etc.

With discount the movies are £9 a month. Sports is £16 a month Inc HD and UHD.

I'll be fine eventually. Getting dialysis and waiting on a kidney/pancreas transplant. So I'm done in currently.

I wish you well :)

Just goes to show that they do monitor what we watch/record, i'm sure VM will do the same.

Not sure how accurate it can be though, as their STB"s have more than one tuner. Perhaps they can tell which one you're actually watching?

Also, some people don't put their box into standby when it's not being used eg before retiring for bed.

Mick 12-07-2021 16:20

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A group of argumentative postings have been deleted from this thread that had absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Also, please use quote tags correctly, misuse may result in someone being misquoted and being accused of saying something another poster had said.

Tags must end with [/quote]. It helps a lot. ;)


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