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Taf 05-07-2021 17:34

Goodby GB, hello UK.
 
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Tories voiced anger today at a 'slap in the face' move to drop traditional GB stickers for Brits driving abroad.

The legal emblem for bumpers and number plates is being switched to 'UK' from the end of September.
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...ange-update-uk

And what of GBA (Alderney), GBG (Guernsey), GBJ (Jersey), GBM (Isle of Man) and GBZ (Gibraltar) ?

Hom3r 05-07-2021 17:38

Re: Goodby GB, hello UK.
 
When I ordered my new car from my Ford dealer (Oct 2019), I specifically requested that i do not have the blue bit on the number plate.

It was supplied without.

This will not be an issue as I no plans to enter the EU, now or in the future.

Jaymoss 05-07-2021 19:03

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Why does anyone care about such trivial things

Hugh 05-07-2021 19:15

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Possibly it’s because GB does not include NI, but U.K. does…

https://cdn.britannica.com/s:800x100...land-Great.jpg

https://www.britannica.com/story/wha...united-kingdom

Pierre 05-07-2021 19:29

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36085298)
Possibly it’s because GB does not include NI, but U.K. does…

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https://www.britannica.com/story/wha...united-kingdom

True. Yet, loyalists in N.I. Consider themselves “British”

Chris 05-07-2021 19:40

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Our nationality for all international purposes is “British”, not “Kingdomish” - I know of no particular reason why we’ve traditionally used GB as initials on cars and sports teams but the closer connection with nationality might have something to do with it.

I read somewhere that it has been suggested it’s an expression of solidarity with Norn Iron post-Brexit; I don’t think that works because these sorts of regulations tend to take longer to work through, so planning for it would have begun before trade deal tensions became a thing.

If I was to put forward a theory of my own, it would be to ensure that anyone with a EU-GB symbol built in to their number plate will no longer be able to rely on it once the identifying letters formally change to UK.

TheDaddy 05-07-2021 20:13

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36085288)
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...ange-update-uk

And what of GBA (Alderney), GBG (Guernsey), GBJ (Jersey), GBM (Isle of Man) and GBZ (Gibraltar) ?

Was that the common sense group that was up in arms, sounds a bit like the correct thinking bureau

spiderplant 05-07-2021 23:10

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36085303)
I know of no particular reason why we’ve traditionally used GB as initials on cars

The GB plate was introduced in 1910, so 12 years before the UK existed.

To balance it out, we use the .uk internet domain when really we should use .gb

Sephiroth 05-07-2021 23:17

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Ha ha. Remember those daft idiots who insisted on putting an "Ecosse" sticker onto their cars? You can still get them (both the idiots and the sticker).


Paul 05-07-2021 23:28

Re: Goodby GB, hello UK.
 
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36085320)
To balance it out, we use the .uk internet domain when really we should use .gb

So whats the TLD for Northen Ireland then ?

Pretty sure they dont have their own, so .uk would be surely be correct.

1andrew1 05-07-2021 23:54

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36085320)
The GB plate was introduced in 1910, so 12 years before the UK existed.

To balance it out, we use the .uk internet domain when really we should use .gb

The UK has existed since 1802 when it was short for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. Since 1927, UK became an abbreviation for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Chris 05-07-2021 23:56

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36085320)
The GB plate was introduced in 1910, so 12 years before the UK existed.

To balance it out, we use the .uk internet domain when really we should use .gb

The UK was created by the Act of Union 1801, which created The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. You’re thinking about the partition of Ireland in 1922, which only changed the name of the country by adding the word “Northern” to it.

The Kingdom of Great Britain only existed from 1707-1801.

pip08456 06-07-2021 02:59

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36085330)
The UK was created by the Act of Union 1801, which created The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. You’re thinking about the partition of Ireland in 1922, which only changed the name of the country by adding the word “Northern” to it.

The Kingdom of Great Britain only existed from 1707-1801.

How could you have The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland if Great Britain ceased to exist in 1801? It would've just been The United Kingdom surely.

Carth 06-07-2021 03:06

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Team GB is the brand name used since 1999 by the British Olympic Association for their Great Britain and Northern Ireland Olympic team.

Team UK, as they'll be known after a change of number plates ;)

Damien 06-07-2021 07:59

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36085331)
How could you have The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland if Great Britain ceased to exist in 1801? It would've just been The United Kingdom surely.

Great Britain still existed post-1801 though? It's just Ireland was then included for the nation changed from the Kingdom of Great Britain to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.

Chris 06-07-2021 09:14

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36085331)
How could you have The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland if Great Britain ceased to exist in 1801? It would've just been The United Kingdom surely.

The name reflects what happened - two kingdoms, one called Great Britain and one called Ireland, were legally joined into a new unitary state.

Sephiroth 06-07-2021 09:46

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Why are we having this micro-detail discussion? Everyone knows what the UK is and how it came to be.

What's really stupid is the impulsiveness of the Government.

1andrew1 06-07-2021 09:52

Re: Goodby GB, hello UK.
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36085333)
Team GB is the brand name used since 1999 by the British Olympic Association for their Great Britain and Northern Ireland Olympic team.

Team UK, as they'll be known after a change of number plates ;)

We'll be taking off our GB plates and replacing them with UK ones whilst at the same time cheering on Team GB. I'm sure no kids will ever wonder if adults have a clue as to what we're doing! :D

mrmistoffelees 06-07-2021 09:58

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The emergence from the pandemic, massive hospital waiting lists, rebuilding the economy, the so called 'levelling up' program. All huge programs that the government and parliament need to work together to deliver. Instead a subset start getting antsy about the letters to be used on a registration plate.

Funny how there's been no mutterings about the same change to the driving licence ?

Carth 06-07-2021 10:05

Re: Goodby GB, hello UK.
 
I've had the same driving licence since 1996 (last change of address) and have no plans to change it again in the future ;)

Bugger paying £14 every 10 years for the plastic one :D

1andrew1 06-07-2021 10:07

Re: Goodby GB, hello UK.
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36085344)
The emergence from the pandemic, massive hospital waiting lists, rebuilding the economy, the so called 'levelling up' program. All huge programs that the government and parliament need to work together to deliver. Instead a subset start getting antsy about the letters to be used on a registration plate.

Funny how there's been no mutterings about the same change to the driving licence ?

Maybe, just maybe, it's a dead cat to distract from the real challenges the country faces?

Sephiroth 06-07-2021 10:13

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36085347)
Maybe, just maybe, it's a dead cat to distract from the real challenges the country faces?

No, it's Government stupidity and evidence of misjudging what's important.

Chris 06-07-2021 10:29

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Newsflash: there are almost half a million people on the civil service payroll in the UK. Not all of them are dealing with the pandemic. Other areas of government continue - if this is a surprise to you, then perhaps you should read up on the way government operates before fulminating.

Carth 06-07-2021 10:37

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Society is built on stupidity.

Why else would we continue to buy cheap plastic crap from China, replaceable every 9 months when it breaks, and then spend further £millions trying to solve the growing problem of plastic recycling & land fills.

mrmistoffelees 06-07-2021 10:42

Re: Goodby GB, hello UK.
 
Isn't this where the right to repair law kicks in ?

Carth 06-07-2021 10:47

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36085360)
Isn't this where the right to repair law kicks in ?

Yep, and about time too, although just how far it gets is another matter :Yes:

tweetiepooh 06-07-2021 10:49

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Maybe it is because we use .uk for the interwebs?

Hugh 06-07-2021 11:00

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36085322)
Ha ha. Remember those daft idiots who insisted on putting an "Ecosse" sticker onto their cars? You can still get them (both the idiots and the sticker).

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1625561949

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...8&d=1625561949

Carth 06-07-2021 11:14

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https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/07/1.jpg

Sephiroth 06-07-2021 11:15

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Trust you, Hugh.

"Ecosse" is a French word, not being an official UK language.

"England" is an English word, English being an official UK language.

"Cymru" is a Welsh Gaelic word, an official UK language.



mrmistoffelees 06-07-2021 11:18

Re: Goodby GB, hello UK.
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36085383)
Trust you, Hugh.

"Ecosse" is a French word, not being an official UK language.

"England" is an English word, English being an official UK language.

"Cymru" is a Welsh Gaelic word, an official UK language.




Does it not tie back to somehow 'The Auld Alliance' ?


Perfect opportunity to use your favourite word here ;)

Sephiroth 06-07-2021 11:24

Re: Goodby GB, hello UK.
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36085385)
Does it not tie back to somehow 'The Auld Alliance' ?


Perfect opportunity to use your favourite word here ;)

Prolly does. But shoving "ECOSSE" on the car's rear end tells you something about the idiots who did this.

For your gustation, the following people are perfidious, imo:

Macron
Varadkar
Von der Leyen
Sturgeon


1andrew1 06-07-2021 16:38

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36085390)


For your gustation, the following people are perfidious, imo:

Macron
Varadkar
Von der Leyen
Sturgeon


Should BoJo not be on that list? ;)

Sephiroth 06-07-2021 16:40

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36085443)
Should BoJo not be on that list? ;)

S'pose.

Russ 06-07-2021 21:15

Re: Goodby GB, hello UK.
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36085383)

"Cymru" is a Welsh Gaelic word, an official UK language.



Erm.....Welsh Gaelic?

Anyway whenever I go over the Irish sea to Eire and N Ireland I always make sure I have the Welsh flag sticker with 'Cymru' on it on the back of my car.

I was told it's a good way to help me not be mistaken for being English. Those over there that do have a problem with the UK apparently only have it in for the English. They (also apparently) have no problem with us Taffs.

Damien 06-07-2021 22:06

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I've had no problems in Ireland as an Englishman. The history doesn't extend to how people interact on a personal level with you.

Sephiroth 06-07-2021 22:30

Re: Goodby GB, hello UK.
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36085503)
I've had no problems in Ireland as an Englishman. The history doesn't extend to how people interact on a personal level with you.

Just the perfidious Varadkar.


Pierre 06-07-2021 22:30

Re: Goodby GB, hello UK.
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36085503)
I've had no problems in Ireland as an Englishman. The history doesn't extend to how people interact on a personal level with you.

Neither have I, as the taxi driver that picked me up at Dublin airport said.

Taxi Driver “Where you from”?

Me “Liverpool”

Taxi Driver “Welcome home”

Damien 06-07-2021 22:51

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Everywhere I have been in the world people are nice, to be honest. They like that someone is visiting their country, they're proud of their country and they want you to have a positive impression of it. If anything England is usually a positive thing because not only have they heard of it but they often also have some degree of cultural reference for it such as our music, literature (i.e Harry Potter) or the Premier League. They'll want to talk about one of them or a place such as London or just practise their English.

Russ 07-07-2021 08:44

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Wasn't the same for me. I walked into a pub in Ireland once and they were all speaking English.

As soon as they heard my accent they all started speaking Gaelic.

Oh wait....

pip08456 07-07-2021 09:49

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36085381)

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1625644138

1andrew1 07-07-2021 10:16

Re: Goodby GB, hello UK.
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36085500)
Erm.....Welsh Gaelic?

Think he might have intended it to be Welsh Celtic.

Sephiroth 07-07-2021 10:21

Re: Goodby GB, hello UK.
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36085517)
Think he might have intended it to be Welsh Celtic.

Thanks, Andrew.

Hom3r 07-07-2021 11:14

Re: Goodby GB, hello UK.
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36085346)
I've had the same driving licence since 1996 (last change of address) and have no plans to change it again in the future ;)

Bugger paying £14 every 10 years for the plastic one :D


1991 here

Chris 07-07-2021 11:21

Re: Goodby GB, hello UK.
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36085517)
Think he might have intended it to be Welsh Celtic.

It’s a language of the Celts but there never was a root language called Celtic. The correct family name is Brythonic (or Brittonic). Welsh, Breton, Cornish, Irish and Scots Gaelic are all Brythonic languages.

Hugh 07-07-2021 12:51

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36085531)
It’s a language of the Celts but there never was a root language called Celtic. The correct family name is Brythonic (or Brittonic). Welsh, Breton, Cornish, Irish and Scots Gaelic are all Brythonic languages.

Just like English is descended from the West Germanic group of languages…

I was told a few years ago (by a Medieval History Prof) that modern Icelandic is very close to Medieval English (in structure).

Sephiroth 17-07-2021 11:02

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In structure, Icelandic is still similar to English in that the verb does not come at the end of a phrase or sentence. Same in Danish.


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