Windows 10 to be retired in 2025
 

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Microsoft says its successor will represent one of the "most significant updates" to the OS in the past decade

Debian or Fedora?

:D

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Thought they said they weren't issuing new versions of Windows any longer and just updating W10?. They must have had a profit warning...

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so for support to end in 2025 that has to mean the new OS will be released next year ish. Hope they do free upgrades again

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I thought Windows 10 was the final version?


I'm on Windows 8.1, I missed out on the free version, because in backing up it screwed up and I took ages to fix ix

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possibly been leaked https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/15/2...ots-start-menu

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Maybe Windows is ending, and it's a totally new OS called Doors !?

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You haven't missed out, you can still get it from Microsoft. Still free.

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-d...ows-7-is-dead/

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Centos :)

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If they're doing a UI refresh of Windows I hope they don't just put another layer of UI on top of the existing one. It's bad enough that the more you drill down, the further you go back in Windows history with some dialog boxes looking unchanged from Windows 98.

This might also be a point where they are more aggressive in cutting out support for old hardware. 32 bit for example. Also, fully unified support for ARM processors and things that won't compile for both x86 and ARM could also be deprecated to enforce that. Microsoft will be concerned at what's happening at Apple with their M-series chips and can't afford for Windows to be left behind because their legacy support holds them back from successful pushes into ARM tables and laptops.

Obviously in that case they'll have two operating systems. Windows 10 for legacy and corporate environments and Windows 11 as a more consumer facing OS.

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So they are giving the kiddie OS a makeover ?

Heres an idea - go back to using the Windows XP inteface.
It was (and still is) by far the best, not the ridiculous kids lego blocks.

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There has been doing on that on every major release. Mainly it's focused on the old Control Panel and moving elements to the modern 'Settings' area, but I think other elements have been moved and can imaging there will more of that in Windows 11.

Already done in part, but can't see that 32bit support for apps at aleast will be yet.
https://www.engadget.com/windows-10-...173055990.html

Windows only supports 64bit capable CPUs now anyway as far a I know and supported Intel chips only support Windows 10

https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/...rocessors.html

And I think that's this

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...oject-reunion/

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They likely want to go subscription model where you have a thin client running locally and all the grunt done "on the cloud". You could have local storage and use of local graphics. Why sell O/S for £100 when you can rent it for £5 a month. No need for awkward updates and if people don't keep paying they lose access.


You could even have Linux locally to run the client. Or ChromeOS. Or Windows.

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well so far the OS appears to be just Windows 10 with a new skin and a few new menus. But it is an early Beta. I am doubting there will not be a new kernel and therefore it will be more like Windows 10X than anything new and ground breaking.

Of course we know MS make their money from other products more than Window and I think tbh it will be offered as a free upgrade again. I feel all companies have to at least look like they are moving forward and not stagnant

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Be interesting to see what on premise enterprise support will be offered

Could this be the first to only be able to be managed by intune ? CM/SCCM/MECM (whichever you wish to call it) can't continue for ever

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The question you guys need to be asking yourself is . . . will updates continue to break stuff ;)

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Or will you be able to even download them... see 365 CDN updates deploying via MECM for the past two months......

My windows infrastructure team are livid.

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A guy my daughter follows online found an ISO for Win11 on the net. He made a virtual machine to run it, and he says it's "Win10 with a slap of makeup".

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I have it too. It is pretty much so far what Windows 10X was going to be before they scrapped

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Well, they could at least take some of the inconsistent design decisions out.

Although hopefully it is a bit of a rethink of how Windows is structured and released.

Ah I forgot about Project Reunion! :dunce:

Microsoft has so many different developer frameworks. They're doing a really good job with .Net core and the web technologies. I think Desktop development is largely dead outside of the enterprise and even there it's likely either very specialist software or legacy code being updated.

Microsoft is going to be offering a 'virtual desktop' service in the coming months. Basically an Azure-hosted VM you can rent and treat as your own. They already do this for business customers where they can promising 100s of VMs hosted and managed on Azure for their staff.

But I don't think they'll take away the local Windows install. You'll still be able to have your own machine for a long-time yet.

That said the thin-client talking to the cloud will be what developers might provide and it'll be those developers who pay Microsoft and in turn request payment from you. A lot more apps will be basically progressive web apps or hybrid desktop apps that require the internet anyway. WhatsApp, Teams, Spotify are all examples of this already.

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A friend I used to work with now works for MS (doing well, as they are shipping him out to Singapore to run the Far East Consultancy arm) - he says the biggest difference in today’s MS work environment is that the CEO Nadella told all employees, including OS developers, they have to use MS tools and systems (before they could use whatever they could justify).

Apparently, using their own stuff has made them realise what was needed to improve the user experience, but also working towards integrating all the different (previously, very different) apps, services, and systems.

He said they’ve still got a way to go, but at least now they realise it’s important, rather than someone else’s problem…

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Nadella also got them to embrace multiple platforms. Microsoft's software on Mac and iPhones is so much better now and you can even develop on the Microsoft Stack on a Mac with .Net Core and Visual Studio Code. That's a huge departure for Microsoft but a very good one.