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Hom3r 10-06-2021 07:42

Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
Yesterday I upgraded to the Ultimate Ooomph. SH3

I can upload to 40meg, but I top out at 300meg on both wifi and wired on my device.

It dawned on me this morning it must be the router "Netgear Nighthawk X6" that can't handle.

So is there a setting i need to do in this or do I have to get another router?

If so what is the best router to get

bbxxl 10-06-2021 07:56

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
Interesting, I was just posting that I never get more than low 200s on 500Mb. Mine is a Nighthawk R8000

nomadking 10-06-2021 08:10

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
Have you enabled bandwidth control on your router or network controller for your PC?
Enter address 192.168.0.1 in a browser to access the SH router status and config("Router Status" button). Should give you the expected max upload and download.

Hom3r 10-06-2021 08:15

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
My SH3 is in Modem mode.


The Netger did have traffic management enabled but I turned that off

heero_yuy 10-06-2021 08:40

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36082441)
My SH3 is in Modem mode.

You can still access the status pages of the SH3 in modem mode. Log into the address stated and click on "Router Status" top right.

There you can check what the SH3 is provisioned at.

mrmistoffelees 10-06-2021 08:57

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
After you've confirmed your provisioned correctly

Replaced ethernet cable between router and SH?

inbound ICMP blocked on WAN port?

That used to cause issues with speeds (albeit many years ago, i wrote a post on this forum somewhere about it)

Router firmware up to date if stock?

Are you running customised firmware ? (DD-WRT) ?

Reset router back to factory defaults and reconfigure?

General Maximus 10-06-2021 09:02

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36082437)
It dawned on me this morning it must be the router "Netgear Nighthawk X6" that can't handle

it is good for 941mbits wan to lan throughput so it shouldn't be an issue

bbxxl 10-06-2021 09:31

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
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To log on in modem mode I need to use 192.168.100.1 I then don’t see a “Router Status” button

heero_yuy 10-06-2021 09:53

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bbxxl (Post 36082447)
To log on in modem mode I need to use 192.168.100.1 I then don’t see a “Router Status” button

Interesting, when I use that IP to our SH3 (modem mode) I get a welcome page and router status is approximately centre screen.

pip08456 10-06-2021 09:56

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bbxxl (Post 36082447)
To log on in modem mode I need to use 192.168.100.1 I then don’t see a “Router Status” button

Don't log in. It should be on the welcome screen.

nomadking 10-06-2021 10:12

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
For me, it just says "Welcome Back!" and a sign in section to modify settings. Below that panel is a text area saying "Check Router Status" that can be clicked.

alanbjames 10-06-2021 10:15

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
My Netgear Nighthawk R8000 wouldnt work above 300mb unless i used DDWRT on it and then it was shakey. It was worse router ive ever owned,

Got a TP Link AX6000 now and works a treat.

Jaymoss 10-06-2021 10:33

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
you could always re enable router mode on the SH3 for nics and then add a Mesh network for your wifi. Personally this is the route I have taken and would take in your position

General Maximus 10-06-2021 14:16

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bbxxl (Post 36082447)
To log on in modem mode I need to use 192.168.100.1 I then don’t see a “Router Status” button

That is a screen you get when you log in in router mode. I am on my phone atm so i cant check but clicking 9n advanced settings or the other option takes you to the same config page. The tab you want is "operation config"

heero_yuy 10-06-2021 14:51

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36082455)
For me, it just says "Welcome Back!" and a sign in section to modify settings. Below that panel is a text area saying "Check Router Status" that can be clicked.

Initial screen:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1623332886

That then brings up this screen below and click on the various tabs to see the data. (Relevant bit cropped out)

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1623332886

HTH

Attachment 29091

Attachment 29092

JMcB 11-06-2021 12:54

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
Request a white box from samknows. When installed it gives you speeds over the month then just take that info to VM support. Every month the SK reports less than the speed you should have. £50 credit ����

Took me 6 months but they had to pay out and in the end it was the increase from 500mb to 600mb that fixed mine I think.

bbxxl 11-06-2021 17:17

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JMcB (Post 36082571)
Request a white box from samknows. When installed it gives you speeds over the month then just take that info to VM support. Every month the SK reports less than the speed you should have. £50 credit ����

Took me 6 months but they had to pay out and in the end it was the increase from 500mb to 600mb that fixed mine I think.

My Samknows whitebox reports lower speeds to my router thanto my iPad over wififrom the router.

ozsat 11-06-2021 18:33

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
I'm getting 660Mb/s download via Ethernet on the same model router.

Enabling QoS kills the speed - but the documentation says it isn't required at those speeds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36082437)
Yesterday I upgraded to the Ultimate Ooomph. SH3

I can upload to 40meg, but I top out at 300meg on both wifi and wired on my device.

It dawned on me this morning it must be the router "Netgear Nighthawk X6" that can't handle.

So is there a setting i need to do in this or do I have to get another router?

If so what is the best router to get


bbxxl 11-06-2021 20:44

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
I’ve disable QOS, since upgrading from 500 to 600 my speeds have gone up. I now get high 200’s
I’ve ordered a new router.

vm_tech 12-06-2021 09:59

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
Reading the thread it sounds as if nobody has confirmed the speeds incoming from VM and just assumed the router was at fault? Must be worth plugging directly in to the SH3 and testing, even in modem mode, a quick reboot when connecting a new device and it will work

ozsat 12-06-2021 16:26

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
Netgear's Traffic Meter seems to hit the speed too - disable that if running.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbxxl (Post 36082614)
I’ve disable QOS, since upgrading from 500 to 600 my speeds have gone up. I now get high 200’s
I’ve ordered a new router.


bbxxl 12-06-2021 16:53

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36082678)
Netgear's Traffic Meter seems to hit the speed too - disable that if running.

Thanks for the suggestion. Disabling Traffic Meter doesn’t seem to have made any difference.

ozsat 12-06-2021 16:55

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
Have you tried bypassing the Netgear and testing the speed direct on the SH?

May even be worth doing a factory reset on the Netgear.

Have you got Armor Security running?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbxxl (Post 36082680)
Thanks for the suggestion. Disabling Traffic Meter doesn’t seem to have made any difference.


Hom3r 12-06-2021 20:26

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vm_tech (Post 36082645)
Reading the thread it sounds as if nobody has confirmed the speeds incoming from VM and just assumed the router was at fault? Must be worth plugging directly in to the SH3 and testing, even in modem mode, a quick reboot when connecting a new device, and it will work


So I log in to the modem on 192.168.100.1 and change from modem to router mode.

Then reboot, the plug my laptop into the modem, do a speed test.

Once this is done, log into the modem on 192.168.0.1 and change back to modem mode. Reboot and this won't affect the static IPs I have in the router.

I really don't want to do a factory reset on the router, as it's too hot to re-enter all the static IPs again

vm_tech 12-06-2021 23:22

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36082704)
So I log in to the modem on 192.168.100.1 and change from modem to router mode.

Then reboot, the plug my laptop into the modem, do a speed test.

Once this is done, log into the modem on 192.168.0.1 and change back to modem mode. Reboot and this won't affect the static IPs I have in the router.

I really don't want to do a factory reset on the router, as it's too hot to re-enter all the static IPs again

You can plug your laptop directly into the modem whilst it’s in modem mode, you just have to reboot it every time you change device connected to it.

rtho782 13-06-2021 11:19

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
It will do 600mbit with hardware acceleration of all types (CTF, FA, etc) all enabled.

Turning on advanced features like QoS, traffic meter, site blocking, MAC address cloning and PPPoE will kill HW Acceleration and force all traffic to go through CPU.

A Unifi Dream Machine is an example of a router that can forward at gigabit rates without having to turn everything off.

A Unifi Dream Machine Pro is a router that can go up to 10GBit, or 3.5GBit with IPS/IDS on, although unlike the non-pro it then doesn't have in built wireless and you'd need to use external APs.

bbxxl 26-06-2021 09:20

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
As I posted in another thread, I got an ASUS AX-88U and with my Nighthawk I was getting 200Mb until I upgraded to 600 when I got 275

I plugged in my ASUS and, after a bit of messing round with the settings, I was soon getting 655

Very happy.

But…

With the Nighthawk I got 275 in my bedroom on the 2nd floor and throughout the house. With the ASUS I get 655 in the study on the ground floor, 250ish on the first floor and, if I can connect at all, about 150 in the bedroom.

I think I’ll go back to the nighthawk.

General Maximus 26-06-2021 09:36

Re: Can-t get 600meg on my set up
 
Or you could get a second Asus router and setup a mesh network :doh:


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