Dominic Cummings testimony to HoC committee re Coronavirus
 

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The approach is all wrong. He comes over as a nasty vindictive person out for revenge. If those who made the choices feel attacked they go on the defensive. Much better to get things out in the open, admit mistakes and learn from them. If there was negligence or similar that can then be dealt with sensibly and proportionally.

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Yes.his testimony will be dismissed out of hand in very quick time as someone on the attack because of the history between him and the present group of MPs in the Cabinet.

Re: Dominic Cummings testimony to HoC committee re Coronavirus
 

On that basis he can offer no meaningful input at all - essentially proving his point that the Establishment rounds on outsiders.

Something already evident in the BBC coverage. Every "journalist" on the state broadcaster opens their puff piece with how unpopular he was. A point entirely irrelevant with regards the veracity of his claims.

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Don't know if it will be dismissed but it really isn't helpful. We are still dealing with the pandemic and the last thing we need are those in power spending all their time justifying them selves and past decisions because they are getting blamed.


If instead it's pointed out where errors were made hopefully the same ones aren't made again. Scientists have to learn how to talk to politicians and work with them both with the science and the politics. It needs to be a cooperation that continues, not a battle to get heard then passing blame.


The medical folk can make all the points they want but the politicians need to look at more including economy and how the great public will react. The latter have a great deal to be blamed for - mass exodus from cities to rural second homes likely taking the infection with them.


The inquiry needs to happen but not like a forum of name calling, self defence and who shouts loudest.

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Surprised at this thread to be honest, potential for some massive 'falling outs' . . . as we've seen in other topics :D

Still, it's probably a better place for the arguments than any existing threads ;)

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Is it not the case that mistakes have already been repeated in the past 14 months (ish) ?

Re: Dominic Cummings testimony to HoC committee re Coronavirus
 

100% we should be weeding out the people who caused the catastrophic response. At nearly £400bn cost, with one of the worst losses of life in the world, these are the last people we want or need in charge now.

The pandemic is far from over and the real risk is repeating the same mistakes.

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Including the public doing all the things that help spread the wee beastie, not getting vaccinated, visiting "at risk" locations, returning from "at risk" locations and bypassing restrictions, gather together even when not recommended/allowed.

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Once again a recent survey I conducted concluded that most people don't give a toss what DC says and see it for what it is, dummy spitting.

No doubt if he was still in the employ of the PM he would have come forth with all this anyway, by way of his good conscience.

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Hang on a minute, every time I took the pi$$ out of 'experts' I got shouted down. Now you want the lot sacking?

follow the science, follow the science, follow t . . oh, about face and run lads :rolleyes:

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Just a guess, however i'd bet that the actions of the public are of pale comparison to the government's alleged mishandling in terms of deaths etc. if you could perform such a calculation.


I really do hope the findings of the enquiry (whenever it is) back up DC's version of events. The Boris apologists will be apoplectic but have nowhere to go.

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But hs isn't, and whilst his credibility can certainly be questioned, at some point in the future we'll have the answer to if he's right or not.

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Don't expect it anytime soon, people need to hide their mistakes and short comings behind not pre-empting the inquiry

That's the part no one is paying any attention to, the chums and donners who have carried out the biggest con job in history, billions for a world class test and trace that was shelved, ppe and that's just the start of it, once the pandemic is over this needs to be accounting for

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:D:D:D

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We’d still be indoors from the first lockdown if it was down to you.

I think most members of the public understand that this was an unprecedented situation in modern times and the government did its best.

Those who claim that the government response to the virus was ‘catastrophic’ want an inquiry now because they know very well that the statistics from other countries are not only suspect, but the number of deaths are going up substantially while ours have reduced to single figures.

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Nowhere - anywhere - have I ever said that.

Many consider the 28 day threshold suspect here - although covid will have already claimed the low hanging fruit in the first two waves - but that's for another thread

Re: Dominic Cummings testimony to HoC committee re Coronavirus
 

Some classic quotes during that marathon grilling. One of the best being
https://www.politico.eu/article/domi...se-of-commons/

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I'm not saying that everything Cummins said was true, but he was right here:

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1261329991708684294 Tweet: 15/05/2020

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Re: Dominic Cummings testimony to HoC committee re Coronavirus
 

Give over, you’re the biggest lockdown lover on here. More power to government, no matter what government, fits in with your Marxist leanings.

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Yes, I want more power to a Conservative Government I despise because I’m a Marxist. :confused:

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:D

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You admit it then.........only joking, not really, no just joking..........

I don’t know you personally, but based on what I know from interaction on this site, yes I’ve you down for a Marxist.

Hey, happy to be wrong, you can tell me where I’m wrong and point me to the posts where you’ve championed free market capitalism.

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There’s a couple of thousand posts about how it’s nice to have a choice between linear television and streaming from a range of providers.

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Job done

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So if people left of centre are to be compared to Marxists does that mean you feel anyone to the right of centre (yourself included??) is a Fascist???.

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Re: Dominic Cummings testimony to HoC committee re Coronavirus
 

Don't forget all those posts about the international bourgeoisie and the proletariat seizing the means of production ;)

Re: Dominic Cummings testimony to HoC committee re Coronavirus
 

Re: Dominic Cummings testimony to HoC committee re Coronavirus
 

DC is a marxist. :D

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He's certainly on the revolutionary scale, but perhaps not on the left of it.

Politicians: crap
High ranking Civil Servants: crap
Media: crap
Establishment: crap

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OY!!! stop pinching my lines :D :D

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Yes totally unprecedented and no one could have seen it coming, if only we'd had a team of cabinet members and experts whose sole job was to plan and prepare for such an outbreak, that would have helped no end, might even have saved the day and many, many lives, hindsight is a wonderful thing and they can't be blamed for not having such a committee in place, unless of course we did have one and some idiot scrapped that exact team six months before the outbreak

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Re: Dominic Cummings testimony to HoC committee re Coronavirus
 

No one could see it coming such to the extent a pandemic has been named in the national risk register for about 20 years alongside fairly regular things like "flooding", "severe weather" and "attacks on crowded places".

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We thought enough concern to have a specific committee set up just in case and someone scrapped it, just like donny did, don't do what donny did, simple