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rtho782 21-02-2021 13:33

Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
So, my mobile is part of my home broadband account. Due to the price rises I submitted a cancellation, hoping they would phone me with a better offer.

They did, but only if I would tie in for another 18m, which I don't want to do because Cityfibre are on the way and I want to get as far from [Mod Comment - derogatory term removed] Media as possible as soon as possible.

So, 11 days ago I cancelled the cancellation, staying on the same terms. My home broadband is therefore still working.

Of course, [Mod Comment - derogatory term removed] are inept, and depts cannot possibly coordinate anything, and my mobile is cut off.

Thanks for that.

Having spoken to the mobile people, they say they cannot do anything about it, as I need to talk to the "Oomph team" who are not open until monday. From my perspective, this is internal VM problems that should not be my problem, as a customer, how they organise themselves internally is nothing to do with me.

I honestly cannot wait to leave this awful company.

Hugh 21-02-2021 14:21

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
Mod Comment - whilst I understand you are upset, it is against site T&Cs to use derogatory names for VM or their services/equipment

Title changed


From CF Acceptable Use Policy

Quote:

Please use the correct names of products, company and trade names. This especially applies to Virgin Media, their equipment and services.

The use of variants and derivatives of names will be frowned upon, even if it is an attempt at humorous dissatisfaction with an item. This is not intended to be restrictive. Misnamed products would not show up in the search criteria of users who seek assistance but are unfamiliar with the slang terms.

rtho782 21-02-2021 14:44

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
Thanks for you help.

If only Virgin could sort my issues out in such a time frame, I've now been on hold over an hour.

Jaymoss 21-02-2021 15:01

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
pretty sucky they did not give you a chance to take your number to a new provider. Where are you planning to go ?

rtho782 21-02-2021 15:13

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
I mean, I'm not going anywhere, I'm staying with VM (for now), hence I stopped the cancellation.

But for some reason they cancelled my mobile anyway and won't even give me a PAC. I think I may have lost my number (that I have had for 20+ years).

Paul 21-02-2021 18:13

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
So, you cancelled to try and force them into giving you a deal, they didnt, and now you are attacking them for doing the cancellation. Ok.

If you hadnt tried to force their had in the first place you would not be in this situation.

rtho782 21-02-2021 18:40

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
No, I didn't force anyone to do anything, I gave 30 days notice to cancel, and then 15 days in rescinded the notice, to stay as a customer, which they obviously actioned as my broadband is working, but they still cancelled my mobile, which is what I am "attacking" them for.

I guess it's my bad for assuming a basic level of competence, when stopping the cancellation you'd think they would stop all of it, not just some of it.

Instead, they have cut off a service I am still paying for for no reason, and upon being notified of this obvious error refuse to reinstate it without talking to other (closed) departments next week. I'm really not sure how you think that's a defensible position on their part? I'm pretty sure if I take a complaint to ADR, I'll win that one.

Jaymoss 21-02-2021 19:00

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36071525)
So, you cancelled to try and force them into giving you a deal, they didnt, and now you are attacking them for doing the cancellation. Ok.

If you hadnt tried to force their had in the first place you would not be in this situation.

Loads of people use the cancel card to get better deals. No one wants to pay more than they have to surely?

The only reason I stay with Virgin for Broadband is for me it is stable and better the devil I know but the minute they try to charge me what I consider an absurd basic rate then I will take on an open reach service

Incidentally they did give him a deal he just did not want to be tied to the 18 months re contract

Paul 21-02-2021 19:26

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36071531)
Loads of people use the cancel card to get better deals.

Im well aware of that, but you also have to be prepared to accept the consequences if it doesnt work.

rtho782 21-02-2021 19:40

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36071533)
Im well aware of that, but you also have to be prepared to accept the consequences if it doesnt work.

Right, the consequences should be that you either go elsewhere, or stop your cancellation, like I did.

Not, you stop your cancellation, so they carry on billing, but cancel some of your services that you are paying for still anyway. How is that acceptable/predictable consequences?

rtho782 22-02-2021 15:05

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
No luck today, the mobile team tell me to contact the media team, the media team tell me to contact the mobile team.

People have mentioned an "oomph team" but nobody seems to be able to put me through to them. One guy in retentions said he had fixed it this morning, and the phone would be live in an hour. That was 5 hours ago.

Others have variously told me there is nothing they can do, to "you need to wait 14 days for activation" which is obviously crazy

Hugh 22-02-2021 15:42

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
Have you tried the VM Community Forum? - they sorted out my upgrade issue.

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...-p/OtherMobile

rtho782 22-02-2021 15:51

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
I've just spent another hour on the phone to retentions who tell me they have lost my phone number. They can send me a new sim, but it will be a new number.

I'm waiting for a manager to call me back and will be requesting a letter of deadlock to go to ADR.

I am terminating my VM services and going elsewhere.

rtho782 22-02-2021 19:00

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
https://soundcloud.com/rich-thompson...ve-lost-number

Shortly I'll catch the bit from an earlier call where they tell me that it's my fault....

---------- Post added at 19:00 ---------- Previous post was at 18:50 ----------

I can't do a poll in a reply, but do you think I got a call back from the manager in 2 hours?
  • No way
  • Of Course Not

RichardCoulter 23-02-2021 05:33

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36071644)
https://soundcloud.com/rich-thompson...ve-lost-number

Shortly I'll catch the bit from an earlier call where they tell me that it's my fault....

---------- Post added at 19:00 ---------- Previous post was at 18:50 ----------

I can't do a poll in a reply, but do you think I got a call back from the manager in 2 hours?
  • No way
  • Of Course Not

There's a load of complaints about VM (usually that offshore call centre) getting rid of complaints by falsely stating that they tried unsuccessfully to call the customer or lying by saying that they actually spoke to the customer and that there was 'Education given'!

They are so incompetent that people are now complaining about how their orignal complaint was handled and still remains unresolved.

To answer your question, no I don't believe you will have received a callback. It seems to be standard practice to say this just to get rid of you. When you call to ask why (if you can actually get through) you are simply promised another callback and end up going round and round in circles. I know this from personal experience from when I had a problem with them.

Maggy 23-02-2021 09:05

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
Well you try that old tried and tested method of contracting the head boss directly. It has worked in the past.The distant past.

rtho782 23-02-2021 10:10

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36071694)
Well you try that old tried and tested method of contracting the head boss directly. It has worked in the past.The distant past.

Good shout.

I've dropped Mr Schueler an email now.


Quote:

Mr Schueler,

I hope you can help me, it seems you're my only hope.

I am currently with Virgin Media for Broadband and Mobile. Technically, the account is in my wife's name, {name}, CC'd, but the phone is mine.

The account number is {number}, Area {number}. The mobile number in question should be {number}.

I submitted a cancellation request on my services on 18th Jan, then, after retentions offers that would have involved a new 18m contract, rescinded this cancellation to stay with VM. This must have been around the 3rd Feb.

My broadband is therefore still working, however Virgin Media erroneously cancelled my mobile phone, and terminated it, on the 18th Feb.

I spent hours on the phone, I'd estimate at least 10h in total, on the 21st and 22nd Feb trying to resolve this matter, to eventually be told that you'd lost my phone number, the number I have had over 10 years, and that I couldn't have it back. I've had no service on my mobile at all for nearly a week, and now I'm told you can send me out a new sim but it will have a new number.

I use this number for business as well as personal use and this has significant financial implications for me. I really hope you can resolve this, else I am going to be forced to submit a small claims action or take this matter to Alternate Dispute Resolution.

Here's a call recording of the point at which you told me you had lost my phone number: https://soundcloud.com/rich-thompson...ve-lost-number

You'll notice that at the end of the call I was assured a manager would call me back within 2 hours to escalate the matter. Of course, no manager called me.

Please treat this matter as a formal complaint. Nobody else seems to action these. If you cannot restore my number, please issue me a letter of deadlock so that I may proceed to ADR.

Note that, until I get a final resolution to this matter, I cannot make alternate arrangements, as such, consequential losses that I am likely to be seeking from Virgin are increasing the longer this matter is not dealt with, so please do not make me wait 8 weeks to proceed to ADR if you have indeed already reached your final position on the matter.

Yours Sincerely,

{name}
{Address}


rtho782 27-02-2021 14:02

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
Thought I would update people in case anyone is interested.

I never got a call back from the previous post. I've had nothing in writing.

One of the VM Community Forums people messaged me, and told me that they were trying to retrieve my number.

On chasing him a few days later, I was told it had been recovered and put on to a PAYG plan - although I don't have the sim, I'm not quite clear on if this is being sent to me or what? The old sim is still dead.

I queried why it was PAYG, and was told that if I want it to be a contract sim I have to go through a credit check as a new customer - I'm unsure why, given that I'm still paying for a contract SIM as part of my VM Broadband right now.

I have asked for a PAC code and if I can get one will take the number elsewhere, I can't trust VM at this point.

jcw00 28-02-2021 21:02

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
You should have requested a PAC code before saying you are going to cancel! Every customer service out there will promise you everything including a call back which never happens. Protection yourself is a lesson learnt!

rtho782 01-03-2021 01:12

Re: Virgin Media have cut my phone off
 
I think you've missed that about 10 days into my 30 day notice, I stopped the cancellation, so it should never have been cancelled, indeed, the broadband was not cancelled.

Lesson learned - VM are an awful company to deal with.


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