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heavyside 16-09-2020 13:08

Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
Indoors at home, I can only get a very weak 4G mobile signal - one bar upstairs and no bars at all downstairs. 3G is hardly any better. I would have hoped for a stronger signal in central London. Outside the signal is strong and my WiFi signal is strong both upstairs and down.

Is there any way I can boost my indoor mobile signal so that I can make and receive calls in all rooms? I have looked online at mobile signal boosters but they are hideously expensive.

Chris 16-09-2020 13:11

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
Most mobile phone service providers now allow Wifi calling, which allows your phone to route calls to the telephone network via your home wifi. This is a good solution as long as your home broadband isn't too slow, at which point wifi calling can get a bit choppy.

Who is your mobile service provider?

(edit) If it's Virgin Mobile, the instructions are here: https://www.virginmedia.com/help/mobile/wifi-calling

heavyside 16-09-2020 13:53

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36050367)
Most mobile phone service providers now allow Wifi calling, which allows your phone to route calls to the telephone network via your home wifi. This is a good solution as long as your home broadband isn't too slow, at which point wifi calling can get a bit choppy.

Who is your mobile service provider?

(edit) If it's Virgin Mobile, the instructions are here: https://www.virginmedia.com/help/mobile/wifi-calling

Thanks for the link, Chris. I'm with Virgin and on 500 Mbs Ultimate Oomph. Unfortunately, I have a Samsung Galaxy S8 which is not supported. There's a note that mentions that other handsets will be added 'soon'. In the Virgin universe 'soon' seems to have a different meaning to everyone elses definition of the word. Being free it's a much better solution than shelling out hundreds for a booster so I guess I'll wait (but not hold my breath).

Chris 16-09-2020 16:31

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
Are you entitled to a handset upgrade? If they’re not supporting a phone released in spring 2017 by now the chances are they’re never going to.

heavyside 16-09-2020 16:55

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36050385)
Are you entitled to a handset upgrade? If they’re not supporting a phone released in spring 2017 by now the chances are they’re never going to.

I'm on a SIM-only deal, Chris. Besides, I like the S8. I don't need or want a new mobile phone.

I'm surprised Virgin hasn't an app to do something similar.

Hugh 16-09-2020 17:36

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
Dumb question - have you tried the WiFi calling option on the S8? (as every other Operator seems to support it).

I know the VM site says S9 onwards, but nothing ventured, nothing gained

Chris 16-09-2020 17:58

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
If you have a pressing problem with signal reception right now, and Wi-fi calling is unavailable to you, then you’re left either buying a femtocell that’s compatible with Virgin (Ofcom approved units are £££ I believe) or buying a phone virgin will support for Wi-fi coverage. Also £££ but probably slightly less.

Or, pick a mobile phone service provider that has coverage in the places you actually need it. That’s why I use EE; there are cheaper deals out there, especially for unlimited data which is what I need most of all, but there’s no point taking a cheaper deal if I can’t use the thing.

heavyside 17-09-2020 09:11

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36050389)
Dumb question - have you tried the WiFi calling option on the S8? (as ever other Operator seems to support it).

I know the VM site says S9 onwards, but nothing ventured, nothing gained

There is no WiFi calling option on the S8 - or none that I can find. Android 9 doesn't seem to have it.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36050394)
If you have a pressing problem with signal reception right now, and Wi-fi calling is unavailable to you, then you’re left either buying a femtocell that’s compatible with Virgin (Ofcom approved units are £££ I believe) or buying a phone virgin will support for Wi-fi coverage. Also £££ but probably slightly less.

Or, pick a mobile phone service provider that has coverage in the places you actually need it. That’s why I use EE; there are cheaper deals out there, especially for unlimited data which is what I need most of all, but there’s no point taking a cheaper deal if I can’t use the thing.

I'm on Ultimate Oomph and the SIM is bundled with my package. There is no problem when I'm out and about but it's an annoyance that I can't make and receive calls on my mobile when I'm at home except in the upstairs rooms.

Chris 17-09-2020 10:22

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
Yes, I get that - I’m just saying you need to weigh the annoyance against the unfortunate truth that fixing it will cost you money. It’s a pity Virgin doesn’t support Wi-fi calling on your handset as that was your only free-of-charge option ... failing that it’s either a 4g signal relay, a new handset, or a SIM from a different service provider with better local coverage. All of which costs, which is annoying. So really you just have to decide which is less annoying. :D

pip08456 17-09-2020 11:44

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36050460)
There is no WiFi calling option on the S8 - or none that I can find. Android 9 doesn't seem to have it.

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I'm on Ultimate Oomph and the SIM is bundled with my package. There is no problem when I'm out and about but it's an annoyance that I can't make and receive calls on my mobile when I'm at home except in the upstairs rooms.

Here's how to find WiFi calling on the S9, I expect the S8 to be roughly the same.

https://deviceguides.vodafone.co.uk/...ing-on-or-off/

Hugh 17-09-2020 12:56

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
And here's the Vodafone version of the instructions for the S8

https://deviceguides.vodafone.co.uk/...ing-on-or-off/

heavyside 17-09-2020 13:34

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36050464)
Yes, I get that - I’m just saying you need to weigh the annoyance against the unfortunate truth that fixing it will cost you money. It’s a pity Virgin doesn’t support Wi-fi calling on your handset as that was your only free-of-charge option ... failing that it’s either a 4g signal relay, a new handset, or a SIM from a different service provider with better local coverage. All of which costs, which is annoying. So really you just have to decide which is less annoying. :D

Thanks, Chris. I guess I will have to wait until Virgin adds support for the S8 and hope it's before I need to upgrade my mobile due to old age (the phone, not me - although I am not in the spring chicken category).

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36050482)
And here's the Vodafone version of the instructions for the S8

https://deviceguides.vodafone.co.uk/...ing-on-or-off/

Quote:

Here's how to find WiFi calling on the S9, I expect the S8 to be roughly the same.

https://deviceguides.vodafone.co.uk/...ing-on-or-off/
Thanks, both, but Android 9 on the S8 is not similar to either. Incidentally, Hugh, I could not click through on the link you posted.

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Curious development. I was out earlier today and used 4G. Now, back home and upstairs - the only place I can get any signal indoors, and only one bar at that - 4G is not available, only 3G.

Taf 17-09-2020 14:45

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
Since changing to the Vodaphone-VM SIM my daughter has been getting very low signal levels where she used to great rock solid connections with the EE-VM SIM.

Chris 17-09-2020 15:09

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
At the risk of sounding like a fanboy, there’s a reason I’ve always been with Orange/EE. Generally speaking they have better coverage in more places. They’re not the cheapest but you get what you pay for, and in a marginal signal area (as is my home location) it makes all the difference.

I now have 4g internet up and running at home with EE; it’s an unlimited data plan sold for phones, not modems (but a handy competition ruling means they can’t stop you putting your phone SIM in a modem if you want to). As a second number on my account, it is £37 a month (though I managed to get them to discount it to £25 for 18 months because their app mis-sold me a rate that was no longer available). I get great signal, and around 80mb down and 10mb up. Once I’ve installed my external aerial I expect that to improve further. That may seem like small beer to you lot on VM, but most non cabled streets relying on Openreach FTTC would fare little better.

Meanwhile, half a mile from here my neighbour got his 4g internet from Vodaphone. He pays less than me, but his speeds are utter crap, barely better than the ADSL line. There isn’t a Vodafone mast anywhere near here, as he’d have discovered if he’d done what I did before committing to purchase and spent a few minutes researching it. Cellmapper reveals that EE has a whole network of masts in the area providing good coverage despite the difficult highland terrain. Its user-submitted signal data shows where it works and where the black spots are, with an accuracy down to just metres in places. The other networks pretty much give up as soon as you leave the population centres.

Truly, you get what you pay for.

japitts 24-09-2020 10:35

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
Late to this thread, but also remember EE PAYM users have access to the additional 800Mhz "extended range" coverage that (where it's available) can make a noticeable difference to indoor & rural coverage. Along with having pretty extensive WiFi-calling support.

I guess it depends whether you're after a full-feature mobile service, or a slightly more budget offering.

Chris 24-09-2020 11:09

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by japitts (Post 36051333)
Late to this thread, but also remember EE PAYM users have access to the additional 800Mhz "extended range" coverage that (where it's available) can make a noticeable difference to indoor & rural coverage. Along with having pretty extensive WiFi-calling support.

I guess it depends whether you're after a full-feature mobile service, or a slightly more budget offering.

For all the bells and whistles the mobile operators offer, I think most people still choose based on price first, although the base price for service might be obscured slightly by deals including handsets in many cases. Maybe in a city that’s fine, although the OP’s experience shows that you have to be wary of black spots even in the middle of London. Out in the sticks, for me and my neighbours, researching who has real-world coverage has to be the top priority.

I’ve found https://www.cellmapper.net/map a great resource because it gathers actual signal data from its subscribed users’ phones. As someone has driven right past my door with their phone logging detailed information, not only do I know EE works here despite us being in a very marginal area, I knew which window to stick my phone to earlier this year when I was having to tether it for Zoom meetings. The website’s cell tower data has also helped me buy and position an external antenna (although I’ve only tested by manually holding it in place so far ... fixing it to the eaves is this weekend’s DIY job).

Sirius 24-09-2020 16:53

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36050497)
Since changing to the Vodaphone-VM SIM my daughter has been getting very low signal levels where she used to great rock solid connections with the EE-VM SIM.

That's news to me that they are now using Vodaphone. It was not meant to be happening till next year at the earliest. I am still on the EE-VM service ?

japitts 24-09-2020 17:09

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36051336)
For all the bells and whistles the mobile operators offer, I think most people still choose based on price first, although the base price for service might be obscured slightly by deals including handsets in many cases. Maybe in a city that’s fine, although the OP’s experience shows that you have to be wary of black spots even in the middle of London. Out in the sticks, for me and my neighbours, researching who has real-world coverage has to be the top priority.


Indeed so - what frustrates me is when the budget providers market themselves as "we use xyz network so you'll get the best but not pay for it", and not be so up-front about the various corners they've cut. All about expectations and advertising, but all the same.

And yes, CM is an excellent resource - I've been using it for many years

Taf 25-09-2020 14:00

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36051368)
That's news to me that they are now using Vodaphone. It was not meant to be happening till next year at the earliest. I am still on the EE-VM service ?

Myself and 2 others in this home have received the new VM-Vodaphone SIMS over the past few weeks, but our son hasn't, so it's a roll-out on odd criteria.

cheekyangus 27-09-2020 00:09

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36051412)
Myself and 2 others in this home have received the new VM-Vodaphone SIMS over the past few weeks, but our son hasn't, so it's a roll-out on odd criteria.

What makes you think they are Vodafone? That deal was only agreed in November and wasn't meant to implement until sometime next year, and they've said nothing to say if it was continuing, what with the O2 merger seemingly going ahead.

Taf 27-09-2020 12:44

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
It's all information and confusion

Quote:

Sprint announces Virgin Mobile is shutting down and all current customers will be transferred to Boost Mobile starting in February

Sirius 27-09-2020 14:08

Re: Weak Indoor Mobile Signal.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36051709)
It's all information and confusion

Sprint is an American network is it not ? So is the Virgin Mobile in the usa

Indeed more info here to avoid the confusion

https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/7/21...ll%20be%20gone.

Quote:

As part of the remedy process laid out by the Department of Justice for the merger of Sprint and T Mobile, Sprint is transferring its pre-pay mobile brands to Dish. To facilitate this move Virgin Group has agreed with Sprint to transfer existing Virgin Mobile US customers to the Boost brand ahead of the sale to Dish. Following the transfer, Virgin will take back the Virgin Mobile brand for the US. We are delighted that after a period of uncertainty caused by the protracted merger discussions, we have control of our valuable brand once again and will now work on options to relaunch a modern mobile offer in the US.


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