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1andrew1 04-08-2020 18:12

Huge explosion in Lebanese capital, Beirut
 
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At least 10 people have been killed in a huge explosion in the Lebanese capital Beirut, officials have said.

The country's health minister Hamad Hasan also told local news station LBC that there are a "high number of injuries" and the blast had caused extensive damage.

Footage shows the moment a building several storeys high exploded, sending a vast shockwave across the city.

Pictures showed a scene of devastation with cars upturned and emergency crews in operation in a large area around the gutted building....

Firecrackers are stored in the area where the blast occurred, local TV reported.

The cause of the blast was not immediately clear.
https://news.sky.com/story/lebanon-l...eirut-12042456

Paul 04-08-2020 19:00

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Wow, thats a huge explosion.

Taf 04-08-2020 19:21

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To me, that looks like a flour dust explosion.

Pierre 04-08-2020 21:30

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36045637)
To me, that looks like a flour dust explosion.

Looks like a Big Bang with accompanying pressure wave followed by Hezbollah saying, “Bugger there goes all our rockets”, And immediate denial of all knowledge from Israel.

Hom3r 04-08-2020 22:38

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Both my dad and I saw this and went "Fuff".

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PM: 'Unacceptable' that 2,750 tonnes of ammonium nitrate be in warehouse

Lebanon's Prime Minsiter Hassan Diab has said it is "unacceptable" that 2,750 tonnes of ammonium nitrate were being stored in a warehouse.
"I will not rest until we find the person responsible for what happened, so we can hold them to account and impose the most severe punishment," the prime minister was quoted as saying by an official Twitter account.
"It is unacceptable that a shipment of 2,750 tonnes of ammonium nitrate has been present for six years in a warehouse, without taking preventive measures and endangering the safety of citizens".



Damien 04-08-2020 22:55

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That is an amazing, unbelievable, screw up.

denphone 05-08-2020 05:06

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Sadly the latest figures they have now are that there are 78 dead and more then 4,000 injured.:(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-53659282

heero_yuy 05-08-2020 09:06

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Apparently the werehouse had 2,700 tons of Amonium Nitrate stored there that had been confiscated several uears earlier from a ship.

This chemical in its own right is not explosive ( It's an oxidising agent ) but if in combination with a flammable source, such as gas or oil, will facilitate an explosion.

From the pictures it looks like a fire was already in progress before the explosion so the flammable agent was there heating up the Nitrate.

See ANFO

papa smurf 05-08-2020 09:11

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36045681)
Apparently the werehouse had 2,700 tons of Amonium Nitrate stored there that had been confiscated several uears earlier from a ship.

This chemical in its own right is not explosive ( It's an oxidising agent ) but if in combination with a flammable source, such as gas or oil, will facilitate an explosion.

From the pictures it looks like a fire was already in progress before the explosion so the flammable agent was there heating up the Nitrate.

See ANFO

Sky reporting someone was welding in the building

1andrew1 05-08-2020 09:27

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36045682)
Sky reporting someone was welding in the building

I can hear how that job offer went.
The good news is we have a new highly paid welding job for you. The bad news is that it's next to the biggest stack of ammonium nitrate in the Middle East!

heero_yuy 05-08-2020 09:31

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The explosion is reported to be approximately 1/5 the size of the Hiroshima nuclear bomb and the largest in peacetime.

The devastation is unbelieveable.

The videos on-line seem to show a smaller initial explosion with red smoke just before the main blast.

Pierre 05-08-2020 11:36

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36045689)
The explosion is reported to be approximately 1/5 the size of the Hiroshima nuclear bomb and the largest in peacetime.

The devastation is unbelieveable.

The videos on-line seem to show a smaller initial explosion with red smoke just before the main blast.

The sad thing is, the smaller explosion would have peaked peoples interest, perhaps have them stood at windows in nearby building looking to see what was happening, and then the big blast would have come.

Hom3r 05-08-2020 11:53

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The 2015 Tianjin explosion in China was only 800 tons of AN, that stripped concrete balcony's off tower blocks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Tianjin_explosions

Carth 05-08-2020 12:06

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That stuff had only been sitting there for 6 or 7 years, what could possibly go wrong?

Unless there was some lengthy legality issue on ownership, you'd have thought they'd have sold most of it off by now (prospective buyers fully vetted ;) ) . . . or moved it away from such a highly populated area.

heero_yuy 05-08-2020 13:19

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36045711)
The sad thing is, the smaller explosion would have peaked peoples interest, perhaps have them stood at windows in nearby building looking to see what was happening, and then the big blast would have come.

There's only a split second between the small one and the main blast. It just looked interesting. There is some speculation that fireworks were also being stored in the warehouse so that could have been the smaller initial explosion with the red smoke.

mrmistoffelees 05-08-2020 13:23

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36045717)
That stuff had only been sitting there for 6 or 7 years, what could possibly go wrong?

Unless there was some lengthy legality issue on ownership, you'd have thought they'd have sold most of it off by now (prospective buyers fully vetted ;) ) . . . or moved it away from such a highly populated area.

'Officials 'asked for ammonium nitrate to be moved'
The highly explosive substance blamed for Tuesday's blast was meant to be moved, the port's general manager has told local broadcaster OTV.

Hassan Koraytem said the ammonium nitrate had been in the port for six years, following a court order.

But, despite instructions from the customs department and state secretary to move or export it, "nothing happened", he told the broadcaster.'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...-east-53664184

Carth 05-08-2020 13:53

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36045746)
'Officials 'asked for ammonium nitrate to be moved'
The highly explosive substance blamed for Tuesday's blast was meant to be moved, the port's general manager has told local broadcaster OTV.

Hassan Koraytem said the ammonium nitrate had been in the port for six years, following a court order.

But, despite instructions from the customs department and state secretary to move or export it, "nothing happened", he told the broadcaster.'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...-east-53664184


I can see the excuses being rolled out now . . "We didn't want to risk moving it, and it falling into the wrong hands" :rolleyes:

1andrew1 05-08-2020 14:21

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Was someone signing off an invoice to pay for the storage every year? Beggars belief. Seems like a really tragic and avoidable situation.

Paul 06-08-2020 02:48

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36045743)
There is some speculation that fireworks were also being stored in the warehouse so that could have been the smaller initial explosion with the red smoke.

Not really speculation, if you watch the videos you can clearly see and hear them going off in the fire before the main explosion.

Damien 06-08-2020 09:21

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Keeping tons of highly explosive materal next to a fireworks factory is Simpsons-esque in it's absurdity.

Carth 06-08-2020 09:33

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36045819)
Keeping tons of highly explosive materal next to a fireworks factory is Simpsons-esque in it's absurdity.


Yep, and as with just about every case of stupidity & incompetence from officialdom, thousands of innocents suffer while those in charge 'lawyer up' and get the excuses in early :nutter:

Hom3r 07-08-2020 08:47

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I have seen many videos of what people saw, one was a woman and 3 you kids look out of a large window, the explosion blew the window in, but by a miracle the double glazing held and knocked them off their feet.

Pierre 07-08-2020 12:45

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36045754)
I can see the excuses being rolled out now . . "We didn't want to risk moving it, and it falling into the wrong hands" :rolleyes:

I'll guarantee you one thing, it'll be the little man that cops it.

Hom3r 10-08-2020 12:39

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The crater is 43m deep, about 141ft.


That is one hellva big hole.

Paul 10-08-2020 14:32

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Given the size of the explosion, I surprised its only 14 feet.

mrmistoffelees 10-08-2020 16:25

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The entire Lebanese government has resigned.

1andrew1 10-08-2020 16:57

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36046186)
The entire Lebanese government has resigned.

The honourable thing to do. Hope the mechanisms are in place for the business of government to continue until a new one is in place.

Paul 10-08-2020 22:11

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36046189)
The honourable thing to do.

Why ?
Did they cause the explosion ?

mrmistoffelees 10-08-2020 22:25

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36046240)
Why ?
Did they cause the explosion ?

By all accounts they to a degree, facilitated it

Paul 11-08-2020 01:10

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I seriously doubt anyone in their current government had anything to do with it.

From the accounts Ive seen, it was dumped there 6 years ago, with nothing more than the occasional request to a judge for permission to do something with it.

mrmistoffelees 11-08-2020 10:03

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36046255)
I seriously doubt anyone in their current government had anything to do with it.

From the accounts Ive seen, it was dumped there 6 years ago, with nothing more than the occasional request to a judge for permission to do something with it.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-le...-idUKKCN2562L3

Paul 11-08-2020 19:08

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Whatever link that is triggered my FF to have a fit.

1andrew1 11-08-2020 19:20

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36046348)
Whatever link that is triggered my FF to have a fit.

Oh dear!
Here you go
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BEIRUT (Reuters) - Lebanese security officials warned the prime minister and president last month that 2,750 tonnes of ammonium nitrate stored in Beirut’s port posed a security risk and could destroy the capital if it exploded, according to documents seen by Reuters and senior security sources.
A report by the General Directorate of State Security on events leading up to the explosion included a reference to a private letter sent to President Michel Aoun and Prime Minister Hassan Diab on July 20.

While the content of the letter was not in the report seen by Reuters, a senior security official said it summed up the findings of a judicial investigation launched in January which concluded the chemicals needed to be secured immediately.

The state security report, which confirmed the correspondence to the president and the prime minister, has not previously been reported.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-le...-idUKKCN2562L3

Paul 11-08-2020 19:26

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36046350)
Oh dear!
Here you go

I assume its riddled with ads, uBlock is really not happy with it, so I'll give it a miss.

So basically someone sent them a letter two weeks ago ?
Although the actual letter hasnt been seen, so its unclear what it actually said ?

Also, this "has not previously been reported."

1andrew1 11-08-2020 19:45

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36046352)
I assume its riddled with ads, uBlock is really not happy with it, so I'll give it a miss.

So basically someone sent them a letter two weeks ago ?
Although the actual letter hasnt been seen, so its unclear what it actually said ?

Also, this "has not previously been reported."

Reuters is a leading British-based news agency which most news organisations subscribe to, and it dates back to 1851. It's far from being an ad-heavy website so might be worth trying it from another device like your phone.

Paul 11-08-2020 21:13

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36046354)
Reuters is a leading British-based news agency which most news organisations subscribe to, and it dates back to 1851. It's far from being an ad-heavy website so might be worth trying it from another device like your phone.

LOL.

As an avid user/reader of these forums, you should know I dont have a "smart" phone. :D

1andrew1 11-08-2020 22:30

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36046360)
LOL.

As an avid user/reader of these forums, you should know I dont have a "smart" phone. :D

Honestly didn't know that!

idi banashapan 11-08-2020 22:44

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36046352)
I assume its riddled with ads, uBlock is really not happy with it, so I'll give it a miss.

If you have a little spare monies to purchase a Raspberry Pi (or if you already have one, you can use that), set yourself up with Pi-Hole. I just checked the link and I get no ads at all.

heero_yuy 12-08-2020 09:52

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Quote from Paul: Whatever link that is triggered my FF to have a fit.
Ad block shows none, redirect not active, but script block shows 21 potentially hazardous scripts. FF (V52.9.0) shows the page OK, apart from a fuzzy picture, with these defences active.

Carth 12-08-2020 10:21

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Page opened ok for me using Pale Moon, revealing a story with no story apart from uncorroborated 'facts'


Probably pulled a few in though for the Twitter experience ;)

Sephiroth 13-08-2020 16:51

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Originally Posted by idi banashapan (Post 36046373)
If you have a little spare monies to purchase a Raspberry Pi (or if you already have one, you can use that), set yourself up with Pi-Hole. I just checked the link and I get no ads at all.

My Pi-Hole speaks wonders.

Hom3r 03-09-2020 20:45

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Signs of life detected 1 month after explosion :shocked:

https://news.sky.com/story/beirut-si...osion-12062894

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-mid...eporting-story

joglynne 04-09-2020 17:35

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Latest up-date is not looking good.

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Snippet..... The pulse, first detected on Thursday, had slowed significantly on Friday, rescue coordinator Nicholas Saade told AFP.
"After removing the big chunks we scanned again for heartbeats or respiration, it showed low beat/respiration levels of seven per minute. The reading before was about 16 to 18," he said.
Rescue workers said there may also be a dead body under the rubble of the building, reports Reuters news agency.
One volunteer told CNN that rescuers had detected a heartbeat signal at another location under the rubble.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-54014940


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