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SnoopZ 20-05-2020 18:20

Organ Donation now OPT-OUT from 20/05/20
 
From 20/05/20 if you don't want your organs donated after your death you need to OPT-OUT.

https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/uk-...xoCspkQAvD_BwE

peanut 20-05-2020 18:22

Re: Organ Donation now OPT-OUT from 20/05/20
 
It's not the opt in or out that the problem it's the wishes of the next of kin that's the problem.

daveeb 20-05-2020 18:45

Re: Organ Donation now OPT-OUT from 20/05/20
 
I think family consent is still required.

joglynne 20-05-2020 19:14

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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36035847)
I think family consent is still required.

Yes.

From SnoopZ's link
Quote:

Your family will still be approached and your faith, beliefs and culture will continue to be respected.

papa smurf 20-05-2020 19:40

Re: Organ Donation now OPT-OUT from 20/05/20
 
I've opted out, this really upsets me, the state seems to think of me as a bag of parts to do with as they please:td:

TheDaddy 20-05-2020 19:43

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Is it donation if they just take them, diminishes it somewhat, could understand it if more had been done to encourage genuine donation but an ad campaigm every couple of years was never going to be sufficient

pip08456 20-05-2020 19:57

Re: Organ Donation now OPT-OUT from 20/05/20
 
It doesn't affect me as I'm already opted out having bequeathed my body to medical science.

My family were informed by me several years ago and have (reluctantly) agreed to my wishes.

Damien 20-05-2020 20:38

Re: Organ Donation now OPT-OUT from 20/05/20
 
I was opt-in anyway, don't see the need for my organs to rot with me if they can be used to save other people. I wouldn't be needing them...

pip08456 20-05-2020 20:48

Re: Organ Donation now OPT-OUT from 20/05/20
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36035863)
I was opt-in anyway, don't see the need for my organs to rot with me if they can be used to save other people. I wouldn't be needing them...

Exactly, I was until I decided they may as well have my body.

Pierre 20-05-2020 21:26

Re: Organ Donation now OPT-OUT from 20/05/20
 
They can strip me bare, and throw what’s left in the skip after I’ve gone. I couldn’t care less.

Paul 20-05-2020 22:30

Re: Organ Donation now OPT-OUT from 20/05/20
 
Do they need body parts from old people, or is this aimed at the young.

I cant imagine what they would want from someone who died of old age ?

Jimmy-J 21-05-2020 01:48

Re: Organ Donation now OPT-OUT from 20/05/20
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36035871)
Do they need body parts from old people, or is this aimed at the young.

I cant imagine what they would want from someone who died of old age ?

Dentures? :D

pip08456 21-05-2020 05:21

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36035871)
Do they need body parts from old people, or is this aimed at the young.

I cant imagine what they would want from someone who died of old age ?

A body is a body if you want to train doctors.

Paul 21-05-2020 05:46

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That maybe so, but thats not the same as organ donation.

tweetiepooh 21-05-2020 09:27

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After death I'd like my body to
1)Be used to save lives immediately - organs/tissues anything
2)Be used to save lives in longer run - scientific study, storage
3)Be used in training.
4)Be disposed of free for my family not to have to pay to get rid of a shell.

BUT
While 1) is easy the others less so. I'd like to simply say that whatever unit is closest to me at my death gets the corpse you can't. You need a pre-existing agreement with one unit and need to change that if you move, it closes etc. What if I die on holiday?

pip08456 21-05-2020 09:33

Re: Organ Donation now OPT-OUT from 20/05/20
 
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36035891)
After death I'd like my body to
1)Be used to save lives immediately - organs/tissues anything
2)Be used to save lives in longer run - scientific study, storage
3)Be used in training.
4)Be disposed of free for my family not to have to pay to get rid of a shell.

BUT
While 1) is easy the others less so. I'd like to simply say that whatever unit is closest to me at my death gets the corpse you can't. You need a pre-existing agreement with one unit and need to change that if you move, it closes etc. What if I die on holiday?

1) rules out 2),3), & 4).

Checkk out the pdf. I uploaded.

tweetiepooh 21-05-2020 09:42

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But that is for one medical unit and lots of exclusions. I don't want to arrange with one unit, I want a more general statement along lines of body is taken to nearest teaching unit and used as they want. If they don't want it dump it however they would dispose of any other unclaimed body.
Basically I don't want my family to pay anything to dispose of my body. If they want a service/wake etc that's fine but they don't need my shell there.

pip08456 21-05-2020 09:44

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36035895)
But that is for one medical unit and lots of exclusions. I don't want to arrange with one unit, I want a more general statement along lines of body is taken to nearest teaching unit and used as they want. If they don't want it dump it however they would dispose of any other unclaimed body.
Basically I don't want my family to pay anything to dispose of my body. If they want a service/wake etc that's fine but they don't need my shell there.

I agree with your sentiments.

mrmistoffelees 21-05-2020 10:37

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36035870)
They can strip me bare, and throw what’s left in the skip after I’ve gone. I couldn’t care less.


Quite, they can twang me into a tree once I'm gone.

TheDaddy 21-05-2020 12:01

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36035895)
But that is for one medical unit and lots of exclusions. I don't want to arrange with one unit, I want a more general statement along lines of body is taken to nearest teaching unit and used as they want. If they don't want it dump it however they would dispose of any other unclaimed body.
Basically I don't want my family to pay anything to dispose of my body. If they want a service/wake etc that's fine but they don't need my shell there.

Don't Christians have to be buried anymore?

Damien 21-05-2020 18:33

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36035871)
Do they need body parts from old people, or is this aimed at the young.

I cant imagine what they would want from someone who died of old age ?

I can't imagine so either but maybe? It depends on the health of the organ I guess? But if it has several years left in it it might be worth giving to an equivalently aged patient? Sure, they're not getting the heart of a fit 24-year-old who died in an accident but they still might get years of life they didn't have previously?

---------- Post added at 18:33 ---------- Previous post was at 18:32 ----------

Maybe there should be opt-in Extra where families can't overrule the decreased person's wishes?

Mr K 21-05-2020 21:55

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It's long overdue, there's an opt out so no problem surely? However people need to make their wishes clear to their next of kin. Being asked about organ donation is too much for many families.in the midst of grief. But if they knew beforehand that would help

However if you choose to opt out maybe you should be low priority if you need a transplant yourself.

Paul 21-05-2020 23:25

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36036020)
However if you choose to opt out maybe you should be low priority if you need a transplant yourself.

Just when I though you were posting sensibly, you prove otherwise. :dozey:

Pierre 21-05-2020 23:36

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36036028)
Just when I though you were posting sensibly, you prove otherwise. :dozey:

I don’t get it? Do you know what he’s on about?

jfman 21-05-2020 23:38

Re: Organ Donation now OPT-OUT from 20/05/20
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36036030)
I don’t get it? Do you know what he’s on about?

It's in the English language, reasonably formatted and fairly comprehensible from where I'm sitting.

Hugh 22-05-2020 08:24

Re: Organ Donation now OPT-OUT from 20/05/20
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36036030)
I don’t get it? Do you know what he’s on about?

I believe he is intimating that if you don’t put in (be willing to donate) you should be at the end of the queue when donated organs are available.

Mr K 22-05-2020 09:19

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36036040)
I believe he is intimating that if you don’t put in (be willing to donate) you should be at the end of the queue when donated organs are available.

Well translated Hugh ;)

papa smurf 22-05-2020 09:24

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36036041)
Well translated Hugh ;)

Not sure i'd want anything donated from someone so bitter and twisted, perhaps recipients should be able to vet the donor first.

Hugh 22-05-2020 09:33

Re: Organ Donation now OPT-OUT from 20/05/20
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36036044)
Not sure i'd want anything donated from someone so bitter and twisted, perhaps recipients should be able to vet the donor first.

Matthew 7:1–7:5 ;)

papa smurf 22-05-2020 09:41

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36036048)
Matthew 7:1–7:5 ;)

It's hardly judging when the evidence is so overpowering ;)

Ken W 22-05-2020 09:54

Re: Organ Donation now OPT-OUT from 20/05/20
 
They can take what they want from my body as long as the rest of my ashs are interned with my fathers grave

Hugh 22-05-2020 10:27

Re: Organ Donation now OPT-OUT from 20/05/20
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36036051)
It's hardly judging when the evidence is so overpowering ;)

It was more line 3... ;)

tweetiepooh 22-05-2020 11:12

Re: Organ Donation now OPT-OUT from 20/05/20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36035927)
Don't Christians have to be buried anymore?

There is an old TRADITION that you need your body for an event called the resurrection but saying that we get our old bodies raised is a misreading. I don't want this old body back (I have NF and a few other things so wouldn't want it even when it was younger and fitter). You have to ask about Christians who died at the centre of the blasts at Hiroshima/Nagasaki. Not much left to bury there.

heero_yuy 22-05-2020 14:18

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If everybody got their old body back the whole world will be predominantly populated by Victor Meldrews. :D

Not sure if my organs would be of any use anyway.

denphone 22-05-2020 14:27

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36036084)
If everybody got their old body back the whole world will be predominantly populated by Victor Meldrews. :D

Not sure if my organs would be of any use anyway.

Well my heart won't be of any use as it only works around one third of its capacity.:D

Carth 22-05-2020 15:07

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36036084)
If everybody got their old body back the whole world will be predominantly populated by Victor Meldrews. :D

OY!!

I resemble that remark :D

Mr K 22-05-2020 16:34

Re: Organ Donation now OPT-OUT from 20/05/20
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36036084)
If everybody got their old body back the whole world will be predominantly populated by Victor Meldrews. :D

Not sure if my organs would be of any use anyway.

Well I wouldn't want your liver going by the 'The what are you drinking now thread' ;)

Hugh 22-05-2020 16:35

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36036097)
Well I wouldn't want your liver going by the 'The what are you drinking now thread' ;)

Why not - if you consider the liver a muscle, it’s had lots of workouts... :D

Carth 22-05-2020 19:16

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I've always fancied what's left of my ravaged body going out Viking style.

Trouble is, it would have to be on one of the specified days, in the specified hours, and only if no neighbours had their washing out . . .

. . . anyway, the local council probably wouldn't let us use the boating lake :(


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