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RichardCoulter 07-03-2020 18:38

BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
It's now been confirmed that the chances of the UK escaping the Coronavirus epidemic are 'slim to nil' and that the government, amongst other things, will likely be banning spectators from football matches.

BT Sport & Sky Sports believe that they are to be asked to show matches for free in an effort to contain the virus.

How difficult would it be for VM to switch off the encryption at short notice? Could it be easily switched on/off as needed?

Media Boy UK 07-03-2020 19:08

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36026573)
It's now been confirmed that the chances of the UK escaping the Coronavirus epidemic are 'slim to nil' and that the government, amongst other things, will likely be banning spectators from football matches.

BT Sport & Sky Sports believe that they are to be asked to show matches for free in an effort to contain the virus.

How difficult would it be for VM to switch off the encryption at short notice? Could it be easily switched on/off as needed?

Ask JJ20X over on that other forum you have joined.

But I think Virgin can switch off encryption very easy.

Saying that Sky Sports can put games on Sky One or Sky Sports Mix.

BT Sport can ask Virgin to put games on Channel 100.

Chad 07-03-2020 19:08

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
They would just broadcast them on YouTube. Not everyone who attends games have pay TV but virtually all will have access to the Internet

RichardCoulter 07-03-2020 20:34

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36026575)
Ask JJ20X over on that other forum you have joined.

But I think Virgin can switch off encryption very easy.

Saying that Sky Sports can put games on Sky One or Sky Sports Mix.

BT Sport can ask Virgin to put games on Channel 100.

For some reason (Spiderplant will know more) it's not as easy to just switch encryption on and off for VM as it is on Sky.

You're right, they may just put selected matches on channel 100 etc and leave the substantive channels encrypted.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 36026576)
They would just broadcast them on YouTube. Not everyone who attends games have pay TV but virtually all will have access to the Internet

...good point, they may also go down this route :)

spiderplant 07-03-2020 21:47

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36026584)
For some reason (Spiderplant will know more) it's not as easy to just switch encryption on and off for VM as it is on Sky.

I can't actually remember the reason why (too long ago/old/drunk), but I think it can only be done for whole days. Launching temporary channels may be the easiest option.

jfman 07-03-2020 22:33

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
I’d say there’s virtually zero chance of this actually happening. Sky/BT will have watertight contracts and no obligation to comply with any such requests.

Even if it were to happen, which I doubt, this proposed method doesn’t get the content onto DTT which is where “free to air” viewers are.

Mad Max 08-03-2020 19:44

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
It may well turn out that all the fixtures may be cancelled.

Raider999 08-03-2020 21:23

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36026661)
It may well turn out that all the fixtures may be cancelled.

I seriously doubt that - Italy playing many games behind closed doors, don't see why that won't happen here.

Internationals etc are different and may well be cancelled.

Skie 08-03-2020 23:01

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
They dont have to "turn off the encryption"

Virgin could just add the channels to all users accounts easily enough, or more likely the broadcasters will put the matches onto the free channels they already have.

jfman 08-03-2020 23:11

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skie (Post 36026680)
They dont have to "turn off the encryption"

Virgin could just add the channels to all users accounts easily enough, or more likely the broadcasters will put the matches onto the free channels they already have.

Exactly, if it even happens. This thread is trying to solve a problem that doesn’t exist.

RichardCoulter 09-03-2020 17:01

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
The meeting has now concluded and they will meet again on Wednesday.

Bill Sweeney (Rugby Football Union Chief Executive) said as he left the meeting that the dialogue centred around the medical logistics of what to do if mass gatherings are banned, such as cancelling events or playing behind closed doors. He went on to say that it was a very good meeting and that as it was clearly a moving situation that they would "carry on talking and go from there".

At this stage, according to the BBC1 news, the broadcasters have been asked to "think about free to air fixtures".

From the BBC website:

'Broadcasters were asked to go away and work out the financial cost to them if they were asked to block feeds to pubs, and the idea of asking broadcasters to make coverage free-to-air so people could watch at home was also raised'.

jfman 09-03-2020 20:13

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
And it's a virtual certainty that any such measure will mean widespread coverage - including DTT.

Mad Max 10-03-2020 17:39

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36026673)
I seriously doubt that - Italy playing many games behind closed doors, don't see why that won't happen here.

Internationals etc are different and may well be cancelled.

Maybe so, but all it takes is for a player in one team to catch this virus and the rest would be put into isolation, leaving the league with no option but to cancel the remainder of the fixtures.

Legendkiller2k 10-03-2020 20:34

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36026834)
Maybe so, but all it takes is for a player in one team to catch this virus and the rest would be put into isolation, leaving the league with no option but to cancel the remainder of the fixtures.

Could already be happening the owner of a Greek team who also owns Nottingham Forest has coronovirus and he was at the Forest match over the weekend.

jfman 10-03-2020 20:48

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
In some respects I hope it does happen, and allows the authorities to focus their minds appropriately.

nodrogd 11-03-2020 12:07

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
This could also run into the international rights minefield. If Sky transmits the matches unencrypted they become viewable to all of Western Europe, treading on the toes of rights holders in other countries that haven't had any restrictions lifted.

Media Boy UK 11-03-2020 13:18

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
My White Hall Source say that government may reveal "Lock Down" in the UK and N. Ireland as soon as Friday (March 13th).

I have just been told "more information to be given out by government on Friday."

jfman 11-03-2020 16:51

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 36026879)
This could also run into the international rights minefield. If Sky transmits the matches unencrypted they become viewable to all of Western Europe, treading on the toes of rights holders in other countries that haven't had any restrictions lifted.

All of Western Europe doesn't have a satellite dish pointing the right way.

Mad Max 11-03-2020 19:42

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36026885)
My White Hall Source say that government may reveal "Lock Down" in the UK and N. Ireland as soon as Friday (March 13th).

I have just been told "more information to be given out by government on Friday."

You have a source in Whitehall? :D you takin the piss MB......:D:D:D

jfman 11-03-2020 21:35

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36026916)
You have a source in Whitehall? :D you takin the piss MB......:D:D:D

Dominic Cummings would explain the amount of misinformation that he comes out with.

Itshim 11-03-2020 21:56

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36026931)
Dominic Cummings would explain the amount of misinformation that he comes out with.

Even he couldn't make him sound believeable. Starting to think he has a real problem . Is his real name Walter Mitty ?

Raider999 12-03-2020 14:57

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
The phrase

'Delusions of grandeur' comes to mind or more crudely

'Up iHis own A***'

jfman 13-03-2020 09:46

Re: BT/Sky Sports encryption question Re: Free games.
 
Wasn't needed after all. :)


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