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trickytree 18-12-2019 11:03

New UI images
 
Had an email from The Connection linking to images of the new UI which in typical Virgin fashion is Coming Soon

What do you make of it? https://www.theconnectionvirginmedia...-17-151030-680

denphone 18-12-2019 11:16

Re: New UI images
 
It looks okay to me but the proof will be in the pudding.

heavyside 18-12-2019 11:53

Re: New UI images
 
Isn't that the Horizon UI?

denphone 18-12-2019 11:59

Re: New UI images
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36020602)
Isn't that the Horizon UI?

It looks like it.

KillerCroc1 18-12-2019 12:23

Re: New UI images
 
its about time we had a new UI

denphone 18-12-2019 12:24

Re: New UI images
 
One that can adapt to late programme changes.

KillerCroc1 18-12-2019 12:34

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It's about time we had change Den we have been stuck with this outdated TiVo UI for years now yeah it's horizon UI yeah it most likely will be a buggy mess but I'm sure it won't be as bad as we think

denphone 18-12-2019 12:45

Re: New UI images
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerCroc1 (Post 36020613)
It's about time we had change Den we have been stuck with this outdated TiVo UI for years now yeah it's horizon UI yeah it most likely will be a buggy mess but I'm sure it won't be as bad as we think

Hopefully one would hope that they have tested it well enough to iron out most of the bugs and flaws.

jobbie8 18-12-2019 12:53

Re: New UI images
 
I've just recently returned to Tivo via the V6 after a Black Friday deal, the UI definitely is outdated, the new Horizon one looks good, hope we get it sooner rather than later.

cheekyangus 18-12-2019 15:02

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I'd need to see it working, but I can't be doing with huge graphics. They just use up screen space inefficiently and result in lots of unnecessary scrolling.

VM's version of Tivo needs a fair amount of tweaking to the user interface layout, but it's fine on the whole.

I didn't like the Horizon videos I'd seen in the past, but VM are liable to change it a fair bit, based on what they did to Tivo, so I'm not going to judge it at this stage, on so little.

I'm hoping I can turn off all the unnecessary flashiness.

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And as for the Voice Control. I don't want that. I haven't bought a "smart speaker", I don't want any of that on my TV.

muppetman11 18-12-2019 15:41

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Others do want it though , if it's like Sky Q there could be a new remote with a button to press to use the Voice functionality. If you don't want to use it simply don't press the button.

Raider999 18-12-2019 16:29

Re: New UI images
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36020611)
One that can adapt to late programme changes.


Dream on, I find program changes happen a lot quicker on sky than v6, nothing to do with the UI more virgins failure to keep things up to date

cheekyangus 18-12-2019 16:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36020626)
Others do want it though , if it's like Sky Q there could be a new remote with a button to press to use the Voice functionality. If you don't want to use it simply don't press the button.

I realise that, they wouldn't be doing it otherwise. I just hope they spend as much time and effort getting the button and touch interfaces spot on.

The young me would be horrified that I don't want it, I loved the computer on Star Trek TNG, and I still love gadgets, just not voice ones. :)

RWCable 18-12-2019 17:06

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Will this be rolled out to the old TiVo boxes or V6 only?

P.S. The above linked PDF seems to be removed

cheekyangus 18-12-2019 17:15

Re: New UI images
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RWCable (Post 36020633)
Will this be rolled out to the old TiVo boxes or V6 only?

P.S. The above linked PDF seems to be removed

It'll be V6 only. The old hardware won't be fast enough. They'll be wanting to phase out the old Tivo hardware at some point. It's cheaper and easier to run, the fewer differences in hardware there are.

The main reason to keep the old Tivo going at the moment is that it has its own dedicated internet connection, whereas you need to have broadband with VM for the V6. They don't have a TV product for people that don't have/want internet without the old box.

RWCable 18-12-2019 17:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36020634)
It'll be V6 only. The old hardware won't be fast enough. They'll be wanting to phase out the old Tivo hardware at some point. It's cheaper and easier to run, the fewer differences in hardware there are.

The main reason to keep the old Tivo going at the moment is that it has its own dedicated internet connection, whereas you need to have broadband with VM for the V6. They don't have a TV product for people that don't have/want internet without the old box.

Thank you for clarification. Just out of interest, will this be a new OS/platform or the same UI as Horizon but still based on TiVo software?

cheekyangus 18-12-2019 17:52

Re: New UI images
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RWCable (Post 36020636)
Thank you for clarification. Just out of interest, will this be a new OS/platform or the same UI as Horizon but still based on TiVo software?

I don't know, but I believe it's basically Horizon, but with additional functionality that the Tivo software has, so that features aren't lost. Tivo, I believe, own patents for various types of functionality that other companies pay to use in their systems. And I think I read VM or Liberty Global licensed these when they renewed their Tivo deal fairly recently (i.e. the last year or two).

I'm sure someone can clarify, confirm and/or correct this. :)

punkrock101 22-12-2019 08:39

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I think they will still use TiVo services like wish lists Etc in the backend system. Sky actually use TiVo for Sky Q voice search for example.

muppetman11 22-12-2019 11:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by punkrock101 (Post 36020877)
I think they will still use TiVo services like wish lists Etc in the backend system. Sky actually use TiVo for Sky Q voice search for example.

Sky Q uses Comcast's voice platform now.

punkrock101 23-12-2019 13:27

Re: New UI images
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36020887)
Sky Q uses Comcast's voice platform now.

I heard it was going to switch to Comcast's system didn't know it happened already.

Doz007 26-12-2019 16:21

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The link seems to have been taken down, does anyone have another link to the images please?

Horizon 26-12-2019 17:53

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https://www.forumbox.co.uk/forum/thr...9385#post79385

Doz007 27-12-2019 10:18

Re: New UI images
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 36021194)

Thank you very much, looks like a huge improvement imo. The current TiVo UI is so outdated in comparison to Sky Q.

Raider999 27-12-2019 12:05

Re: New UI images
 
I would like to have the option of this new interface or the traditional linear type EPG.

This would mean everyone would be happy.

OLD BOY 27-12-2019 13:01

Re: New UI images
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36021255)
I would like to have the option of this new interface or the traditional linear type EPG.

This would mean everyone would be happy.

The EPG will remain as it is. However, you may have to click on a picture to access it.

cheekyangus 27-12-2019 13:21

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I'd like to be able to switch off excess pictures, but I suspect the best I'll get is the channel logo removal on the EPG like you can currently do on Tivo/V6.

There are rules about accessibility coming into effect for all platforms I believe, so maybe those will provide features of use to a wider audience than those they are intended for.

Raider999 27-12-2019 15:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36021261)
The EPG will remain as it is. However, you may have to click on a picture to access it.


That is not 'as it is' then is it.

cheekyangus 27-12-2019 16:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36021291)
That is not 'as it is' then is it.

Some people call the entire box operating system software the EPG, others are just referring to the section of it which lists the channels and the programme schedule for the user to navigate.

I think Old Boy is talking about the latter definition of Electronic Programme Guide.

And looking at the screenshots of the new EPG section, it looks like most EPGs.

The bit about the new OS that worries me is the interface that leads to the EPG section. I don't want lots of bit graphical, screenspace wasting buttons, but quite a few people do and it's the current trend.

OLD BOY 27-12-2019 18:54

Re: New UI images
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36021294)
Some people call the entire box operating system software the EPG, others are just referring to the section of it which lists the channels and the programme schedule for the user to navigate.

I think Old Boy is talking about the latter definition of Electronic Programme Guide.

And looking at the screenshots of the new EPG section, it looks like most EPGs.

The bit about the new OS that worries me is the interface that leads to the EPG section. I don't want lots of bit graphical, screenspace wasting buttons, but quite a few people do and it's the current trend.

That's correct. I have always viewed the EPG as the channel listings. The screen before that is the Home screen.

As I understand it, the new Home screen will be picture based, and you will select the appropriate picture to access the programme guide, which will probably be exactly the same as the one we have now.

The other pictures on the home screen will allow you to access on demand, recordings, apps, etc.

Horizon 27-12-2019 20:31

Re: New UI images
 
Really, there is no Home screen, in the traditional sense.

This "new" UI looks like my 2013 Samsung tv in that you get a carousel of options which appear at the bottom of the screen to access the tv listings, search, on demand, settings etc.


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