December 2019 General Election
 

Britain set for December election as Corbyn lifts Labour's opposition to bill.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...08c428d893280c

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At long last. This Parliament reminds me of the walking dead.

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politically homeless here normal a labour man but cant with Corbyn never ever will vote for the nasty party

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Agree totally Dave, I might just have to hold my nose and vote Labour as it's an old school two horse Tory - Labour race in my neck of the woods.

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Matter of working out who you dislike more then, and vote for the other !

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( See Labour are Blue and the Tories Red in the CF poll again !)

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Professor John Curtice makes a prediction on @LBC.

“I will make a prediction. There are going to be a record number of non-Conservative and non-Labour MPs as a result of this election.

“That makes it difficult for the Tories and Labour to win an overall majority.”

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Professor Curtice tells
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that whilst Jeremy Corbyn can do a deal with the SNP and/or the Lib Dems to become Prime Minister, Boris Johnson has to win a Conservative majority.

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Difficult choice for me too,

I'll end up going Lib Dem i suspect. I Corbyn as PM is not something i relish, however, nor is Boris.

I only wish the other Milliband brother was leading Labour. .

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So true. I'd go Lib Dem myself if they weren't a poor fourth in my constituency in the last election.

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And me too.

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Piece of piss to make a choice here.

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Corbyn is unelectable , Johnson is a chancer and a charlatan and a lot more besides so the only choice left to me is to vote for another party.

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Indeed.

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Things will never change if everyone thinks that way. Best to vote for the party who most closely matches the way you think.

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If you are going to vote Lib Dem vote Tory. It'll all be the same if given the opportunity to prop up a minority Conservative Government.

Ask yourself if you want another five years of this.

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government saying election bill to be pulled if amendments pass

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It doesn't matter how I vote. I live in a committed Tory seat with a hard truly committed to the party line MP.

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Given their diametrically opposed positions regarding Brexit. I suspect that would not happen.

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Probably the same seat where my parents live Maggy.

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The Lib Dems will never be able to improve their placings if everyone votes negatively or strategically.

The problem is that so many people seem to have the view that nothing will ever change. Well, it won't if ingrained behaviours do not change.

However, we will not have more of this. I do not see a coalition or no overall control rising from the ashes of this parliament.

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This is the latest update from ITV's Joe Pike as he bumped into Dominic Cummings..

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I'm just being pragmatic, I don't intend to give the local Tories a helping hand in through the back door by voting for a candidate (Lib Dem) that has no chance of being elected. I suspect there will be quite a lot of tactical voting around the country.

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Indeed that is what makes this election very unpredictable and volatile.

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The amendments on votes at 16 and votes for EU nationals not set to be put to vote.

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Not anymore ;)

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My preference has always been the Monster Raving Loony Party . . . but it now seems there are about 5 of them :shocked:

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Brexit Party for me obv

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They seem to be putting more time and effort into debating this than most other Brexit related bills.

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Some interesting thoughts from Professor John Curtice.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...ng-prediction/

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The real question is who is paying him.

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Professor John Curtice is the UK's leading election expert so it seems a very strange question as to who is paying him as l struggle to find what great relevance that has to do with it.

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It's just a voting prediction jfman, it's not the same as those strange women in circus tents that ask for payment in order to predict your fascinating and totally believable future ;)

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So you're confident of a Conservative win and keen to ensure the opposition don't coalesce around the one party with a chance of winning the election.

At least don't do it under the pretence of "nothing will ever change unless folk vote Lib Dem.

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I'd be interested in what he was doing on the afternoon of 23rd June 2016, who he was providing data to and what they used it for.

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IMO, the 'man in the street' will probably avoid Lib Dems . . not because of their Brexit stance, but because of all the other stuff that may well come afterwards if they win :p:

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If you are in a leave voting Labour constituency, that might just work.

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Yes and if Boris needs to do a deal with them to get a majority then prepare for no deal brexit as they would accept nothing less.

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You are such a cynic. No, that's not why I said it at all. You and I know that Labour will not win and the best chance of not wasting your vote if you don't want to vote Conservative is to vote Lib Dem (or Brexit in some areas).

In case you hadn't noticed, the LDs are top of the poll above as I write, so people should stop and think about that.

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A poll of 15 users of a fairly niche internet forum?

It's 100% why you said it and I've no idea why you are claiming that "you and I know Labour will not win" or that, even if not a Lib Dem vote is not a more effective one. Absolutely staggering logic, just ask any student in 2010.

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People will vote with their own conscience as to what candidate they want to put their cross by.

Who they vote for is their own business and nobody elses and they should be respected for that.

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I'm glad you've admitted that this forum is not representative of the general public, jfman, and you are definitely a one-off!

However, if you can read my mind from that distance, I am sure you can make good money from this ability.

It is not why I said it, man. You have a very odd way of thinking most of the time and you don't know me at all.

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Oh, I do, and I completely respect your decision to vote for that nice Mr Corbyn last time around.

However, a bit of food for thought sometimes does no-one any harm.

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Seems odd you "know" I don't think Labour can win but at the same time I can't apply my the same logic to "know" you are absolutely at it.

You're terrified Labour will win, hence peppering the forum with "food for thought" as you put it. Right wing propaganda might be another name for it.

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Indeed l did vote for Labour in 2017 as the better of two evils but as like the Conservatives they have become even more unelectable in the passing two plus years someone else will be getting my vote for the first time.

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