1Gb Review
 

Not by myself, however thought some of you would find it of interest...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT9b7VU8nHc

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thanks for that, I have been waiting for a review and to hear back from a real person who has actually got it. She makes some good points which I had already thought would be the case.

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The lack of a multi-gig ethernet port is a real shame on this one. I guess this really is more of a 3.1 trial than a gigabit trial though, so I'm hopeful that by the time 3.1 is available everywhere they'll have a more modern 3.1 Hub with a 2.5G or 5G port.

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If you mean a wired connection, then the next step up is a 10Gbps connection

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Make it so

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Some sort of link aggregation would be welcomed before then, however I'm not sure if that's possible with modem mode. I won't hold my breath...

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I think asking for Ethernet ports above 1Gb currently is a tall order, they’re both more expensive and more importantly harder to passively cool.

I would love to see them working towards having 100Mb uploads.

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The hub in the review is actively cooled, problem solved.

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Well I obviously didn't pay much attention to the video! :)

I still stick to the heat issue though, the more components generating heat, the more cooling needed. Most people will not be impressed if they could hear the fan.

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"what a HUGE disappointment not having an ethernet port faster than 1Gbps",

Isnt 950mb enough? Is it really a HUGE disappointment

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Possibly to those that purchase it as the headline speed cannot be delivered due to the ethernet port restriction.

Typically VM over provision (as in this case) so that speed tests return the headline speed. I tend to agree with Kushan in that it is more of a trial of 3.1 rather than the hub which will eventually be used.

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That is the finished hub, you could get the speed over multiple devices so theoretically 1gbps is achievable. But can anyone really be "Hugely Disappointed" in getting 95% of speed advertised?

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The old "I'm not getting what I pay for" syndrome.

Personally I'm not bothered 50Mb is more than enough for my needs.

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Not necessarily, 2.5G and 5G ethernet are a thing and would make a lot more sense as they're much cheaper than 10G ethernet. Arris actually has a gateway with a 2.5G port on it list on their site, but I can see why Virgin wouldn't adopt it as it has other limitations.

I appreciate that most people are going to be using the hub in hub mode, in which case they'll get the full gigabit over multiple devices. But it's a blow to people that prefer their own router (Not that there's many to choose from with a 2.5G port, mind!) and it also means in future if we want to go beyond gigabit, it's another new hub.

Don't get me wrong, it's all good progress and I completely get the reasons behind sticking with gigabit ethernet for now. I guess I'm actually more annoyed that the industry hasn't moved forward with more multi-gig equipment. I've got a 10Gbit ethernet port on my motherboard and I could upgrade my NAS with a 10Gbit NIC, but 10G (or 2.5/5G) switches aren't that prolific (And tend to be rackmounted/enterprise gear anyway) and Intel has only just recently said they'll start doing 2.5G ports, same for Realtek.

It's still crazy to me that Internet tech has caught up with home networking tech in this way.

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The advertised speed of Gig1 is 1104Mbps but 552Mbps is the minimum guaranteed download speed. Let's not get hung up about a maximum of 950Mbps due to the Ethernet port restriction.

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I wonder when the 500mb will be released to all tho!

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The "cheap" way to do it would have been an SFP+ port, which I'd have been completely happy with.

Given that 1Gbps is surely the opening speed of 3.1 - we'll see higher tiers eventually - this does seem like a significant oversight.

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Yeah, does seem a bit stupid to launch your new service tier with a device that can't actually handle the headline speed and definitely wont be able to do anything with the future speeds.

For 1GB, with it being new and premium, they could have just gone the old standalone modem route for a year and come out with a hub when it's a more widespread service to allow time for 10gb Ethernet to get a bit cheaper.

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You'd be surprised at quite how many customers actually hate having to use two devices. There's a reason everyone uses hubs.

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99% of customers i visit use the hub as a hub

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Vodaphone are offering a symmetrical 900Mb to residential users in Coventry, presumably because of the same issue of having routers with ethernet ports capable of >1Gb. I guess that cost would be the main factor.

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Cost I don't think is the issue, its more to do with the end user equipment. Most users only have devices that are capable of 1Gb network speed, so why provide more?

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Multiple 1Gb-capable devices in a household are capable of using all that bandwidth, and more.

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Probably not the correct thread but looks like 1Gb is coming to Manchester next.

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Why do people currently need 1Gbps for home lines? Genuinely curious ..

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It's less about "need" and more about "if I can have it take 1/3rd as long to download red dead redemption 2, why wouldn't I?"

As to cost of multigig ports, sfp+ ports are very cheap to add, and while most probably wouldn't ever use them, they give the option of whatever optics (or indeed rj45) option you need. The average customer would probably ignore such ports but for those that want them the option would then be there. Cheap DAC cables are a thing, and mmf optics are less than £10 each.

I can see why they wouldn't want to put a 2.5g/5g/10g rj45 port on, not only are they expensive for something most wouldn't use, but it then brings "why doesn't my ancient cat5e link work at 10g" support calls.

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Well I suppose it depends on how often you download red dead redemption 2? If you are spending an extra £30 per month to save this time, you can buy a lot of new games for £360 every year.

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That was but one example the same applies to everything I do online, I'd rather it was faster.

Also, while the upload is terrible it's significantly better than what I have now.

"You don't need it" is an argument that applies equally well to just about anything in life barring the bare essentials.

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Some games on Steam can be 60,70, 80+ GB and are only set to get bigger.
Updates can also be huge.

More home devices connected at once.

---------- Post added at 20:44 ---------- Previous post was at 20:34 ----------

What happened to the multi gig speeds:

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...idgeshire.html

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That was just a trial / technical test of a FTTP system. The gig1 system still uses copper.

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:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Don't get me started, twice now Kush has made me download two games which are 126gb which we have played for 1 hour and then I uninstalled.

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Don't blame me if CoD is massive these days ��

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It has just been released for service in Warrington

https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk...rington-homes/

A copper centre conductor is used for internal coax but not for external between optical nodes and cabinets and between cabinets and homes.

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Can someone answer the question when will their 500mbb be released for all without the need for a silly bundle?

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I don't mean to argue semantics, but all the same the 8gbit trial from before was pure fibre, gig1 is still the same HFC network we all know and love, just upgraded.

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you would think it would be soon wouldn't you seeming as though they have already released 1gbit as standalone. You would think they have reached their saturation point with oomph bundle uptake so the only way they are going to get new subscribers/upgrades now is by making it available to all non-bundled tiers.

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I suspect it's a capacity thing. 1gbit is only available in 3.1 areas, but I imagine 500mbit is pushing the capacity of the 3.0 network.

I wouldn't be surprised if stand-alone 500Mbit didn't come along until more areas were 3.1 enabled - and it'd come with a 3.1 Hub.

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Yeah, it shouldnt take much longer. I think they were moving 20mbit customers over to 3.0 six months after 50mbits launched.

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The online postcode checker still has my street down as 200Mb though it used to show 350Mb and I believe 500Mb and I am on the 500Mb speed, so I am guessing it is a capacity issue.

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The area I have moved to recently (new build) was limited to 200Mb but is now 350Mb. I assume 500 and the rest will come eventually at some point.

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Openreach at the entrance to my estate pulling fibre through the main ducts in preparation for FTTP. Allegedly BT Wholesale will be dropping the 1gb price to something fairly reasonable in the next few months.

Actual competition!

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Sweet. Things are finally moving forward and equally for everyone.

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I'm waiting for OR to do the same, hopefully. Annoyingly when I look at the coverage map, I am surrounded by places with G.fast and FTTP plans (and literally on the edge of one) but my exact area has nothing. I'm hoping it'll be soon.

I think your memory is lapsing again, Max. 50Mbit was launched at the end of 2008, as the first 3.0 service but the great migration to 3.0 (Which was marketed as speed doubling) was 2012. That's when 20meg moved "for free" to 30meg and required users to get upgraded to a 3.0 device.

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you are partly correct, I remember quite vividly posting about it at the time and I remember that within 6 months of 50mbit being released that despite being advertised as stm free, they introduced stm on the tier because they were migrating 20mbits customers across as well which was going to place more load on the network. Luckily the existing subscribers were immune for another 9 months or so I think before it was inflicted upon us.

I have done a quick search to see if I can find any of my posts from the time talking about it and I have found one from March 2009. From the sounds of it they were moving 20mbit customers onto docsis 2.0 because 1.0 was at breaking point.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...2#post34759665