Jeffery Epstein and friends
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49306032 Prepare for the avalanche of conspiracy theories from all sides of the political spectrum...

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How convenient, lot of powerful people going to be sleeping easy in their beds tonight whilst their victims are denied justice

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Saw this quote on Social Media

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I love a good conspiracy.

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what if conspiracy theories are started by the government to distract us from the real conspiracies? :shocked:

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There seems to be something strange going on... Maybe the reptilians are to blame.

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Nope, it wasn't us ;)

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I think Area 51 made you say that...

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Well, quite surprised the old bag was found guilty, spill the beans on the others or die in prison doesn't sound unreasonable to me

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Yes, Andrew may have discovered how to sweat

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Justice won't truly be done until those disgusting specimens that knowingly abused these children and women are facing trial's, I won't hold my breath.

Yes thats the sadness about it!!

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I wonder if she will have an 'accident' in the nearish future?

Time will tell.

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Well, she could expose a lot of powerful people, so this is risky for Gislaine. I guess this is why she has been so adamant that she will not do a deal to reduce her sentence. I think that would become a death sentence for her. The American justice system is totally corrupt.

They might assassinate her anyway, just to be sure.:(

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If you have secrets then keeping them secret is more likely to get you killed than not. Maybe have a dead-mans switch of some sort to release details upon your death....

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Look at it this way, A guy called Bob Lazar claims to have worked are Area 51 on a sub site called S4, and basically said if they kill me it proves I was telling the truth, but no record of him working there exist (But would your tax or employment records actually say you worked at a place that didn't officially exist?)


I would say that she has "dirt" only to be released if she dies.

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Given the murder of Epstein in custody I'd bet good money she has files deposited at numerous lawyers to be released after her suicide.

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Or the US government have officially repeatedly denied the existence of UFOs/ UAPs…………until they didn’t.

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Isn't Area 51 a legit military base that's officially recognised as such?

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Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_51

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I accidentally bought a souvenir t-shirt for the Alien Cathouse Brothel from the Area 51 gift shop a couple of years ago. Didn't realise what I'd done and a couple of days later nearly wore it on a flight from Las Vegas to San Francisco. No-one told me the building next door was that kind of business!!

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You missed out there, Grimmy! :naughty:

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What, spend money :shocked:

Thought it was common knowledge that in Yorkshire we're like Scots but with all the generosity removed!!

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I know you squeak when you walk!:D:D:D

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I think the Prince will get away with it. The case will be dropped.
Everyone knows what he did but they'll never convict him.

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Really ? Do enlighten us.

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Well there was an an interview he did in which it was clear that he was lying. It was analysed by experts and you could see he wasnt telling the truth.


For starters he claimed he didnt even know the girl or have met her yet there is a photo of him in the same room with her.

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So being in the same room as a person is proof of guilt?

Can you honestly say you've known every person in every room you have ever been in?

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Ordinarily no, but he's also in the presence of a convicted groomer and sex trafficker in the same picture. In addition the girl he has his arms around has made accusations against him. The same girl was paid $500K by a convicted paedophile to remain silent. :erm:

I think he'll wriggle out of it by hook or by crook but the accusations should be looked in to, I'm sure he can afford the best lawyers so would have a better chance than most of being acquitted even if it went to trial.

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Only if you have your photo taken. :)

I cant really remember much about 2001 at all, where I was, or anything I did.
Can you remember everyone you met once in 2001 (and had you photo taken with them) ?

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Does that include surveillance cameras? :D :D

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I can't remember much about that year either but what I do remember is not going to stay with my paedophile and sex trafficker friends and having my photo taken with one of their victims, I think it's okay to judge people by the company they keep and whilst that does necessarily mean he's guilty of crimes that woeful interview and his failure to cooperate with investigations indicate he's hiding something and given the gravity of the crimes those two committed I'm all in favour of anyone concealing information being hauled over the coals

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You would also expect as part of the interview preparation, someone in his team would proof read what must have been the prepared answers and soundbites with a view to checking the validity/believability or whatever. Surely his team is big enough for one of them to open google and search 'Prince Andrew sweating'.

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I saw a picture of him with one of his then teenage daughters and he doesn't appear to be having any trouble sweating

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just a wrong un

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You have paedophile and sex trafficker friends ?

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Yes and one was a billionaire who committed suicide in prison, fortunately though I don't have to choose my friends wisely as I don't rely on the public or who my parents are for a living

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Anyone we know ?

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One of the jury was a victim of abuse, and therefore could be grounds of a mistrial.


https://news.sky.com/story/ghislaine...rdeal-12509415

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Is that the royal we or some sort of multiple personality disorder?

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If being pictured with criminals convicts every person in the picture I'm screwed better pack my bags and get ready for life without parole.

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Well that wasnt a very wise thing to come out and say.

Maybe one of them, maybe not, either way, its not relevant to the question.

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Probably only if they lied on the pre-trial form…

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Exactly this.
You don't go and spend time in someones house knoewing they have been convicted. Alarm bells should have been going off to seriously distance himself from the man.
Something is not right.

If you analyse the interview there are lots of slip ups.

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Well I really,really like to see the actual proof before judging anyone.So far apart from one photo(and photos aren't always proof positive) I've seen nothing that I can make any determination that Andrew is guilty of anything but poor judgement in business partners.

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What I really don’t understand is why anyone expects Andrew to pay any damages to her. Ok morally he should (if guilty) but keep in mind this is a trial in a yank civil court which has zero jurisdiction in the UK. If this goes to court and the court rules in her favour they may well set damages at £3m but he won’t legally have to pay a penny.

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Pretty sure he wasnt convicted in 2001 (when that photo was allegadly taken).

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Pretty sure he had been convicted when the prince last stayed with him and he remained chums with Maxwell long after Epsteins conviction, apparently and he gave the FBI "zero help", given the gravity of the crimes that alone should be enough for no one to defend him.

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Got any links?

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1986335.html

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That was 9 years later, and while not a particularly clever thing to do, its not illegal, nor were any accusations of illegal activities made.

I'm not sure what you define as "long after", it was 3 years as best I can tell from reports.

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Not really sure why your so interested in defining how many years long after is or why he was staying with a convicted paedophile nine years after something or other, the only thing that really matters for me is he hasn't and isn't cooperating with the authorities in matters so serious

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Your the one who stated "and he remained chums with Maxwell long after"
Its a meaningless statement without any kind of definition.

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In context of the crimes committed it is meaningless, a bizarre thing to pick up on unless of course deflection is the game

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That’s probably on the advice of his lawyers.

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The civil case is allowed to proceed, apparently

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BoJo on the ropes. Andy next.

What a time to be alive.

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But which is the distraction to which? That's the important question??

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And in Australia, a prominent vaccine sceptic is tying himself up in knots.

Who said there's never any good news? :tu:

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There is a similar synergy to the Duke of Windsor and his friendship with the Nazis in the 1930/1940's: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marburg_Files

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I wonder if the Queen can still get relatives heads chopped off ? That would be one solution, but guess there wouldn't be many of them left.

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I'm sure there's plenty of spikes in traitors cloister just begging for a head. :D

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Andy loses titles and patronages....

LINKAGE

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Good job. Hope he get nailed to the wall. Complete wrongun

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H’mm…maybe the same courtesy should be considered for Boris…

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Yes, we can tell that you are having a ball. Nothing like revelling in the downfall of others.

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But we have done that. Ample proof of his misdeeds is now in the public domain. The difference is that in the Boris thread it’s not proof you demand we wait for, but the outcome of an enquiry.

Do make up your mind (or preferably, stop hitching your wagon to hopeless causes).

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You really should apply for a Proctology qualification…

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What’s not to enjoy?

While some enjoy licking boot, bowing to people they’ve been told are their betters for generations. It’s never been for me.

A rapist is a rapist regardless of their birth. An accusation at this point of course, but I see no reason to hold Randy Andy in particularly high esteem.

An incompetent and lying Prime Minister the same. But alas that’s for the other thread.

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The inquiry should give us the facts about what actually happened. All we have so far is allegations.

Similarly, the real facts should come out in court with Prince Andrew’s case.

Or maybe we should just abolish inquiries and courts and just listen to you guys making your ill-informed pronouncements from the comfort of your armchairs.

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This is so ironic, Thomas Telford might rise from the grave and try to build a bridge with it.

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If the inquiry was truly independent, you may have a point - as it is, the person carrying out the inquiry works for someone whose boss is Johnson, and Johnson can decide (as he did with the findings from the Patel inquiry) to ignore the findings…

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Get off your knees, OB.

Imagine the well rounded, free-thinking, sovereign man you could be if you just accepted these people absolutely despise you. You’ll never be them no matter how many shoes you shine.

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Well they soon threw him under the bus.

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Nice family eh,love the way they support each other.

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At least he’s under the bus metaphorically and not in a Mercedes.

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I'm still waiting for facts.Not seen many so far.

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Still living in one of our castles, protected by our police etc etc. They should disown him properly and throw him out on the street!

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If he got what some think he deserves he would still be living in one of HM's houses and getting his every need supplied and well guarded. (Or is that someone else.)

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You have to admit though he isnt making it look good for himself is he.

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Soon? It took over seven years for them to remove his titles.

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They had no basis to do so 7 years ago.
For that matter, they dont really have one yet.

All there is atm is allegations, nothing more.
Once again you need to remember, innocent until proven guilty.

It seems the whole "cancel cuture" has kicked in again.
If a court finds him guilty, he deserves what he gets, but not before.

Im quite sure if someone suddenly accused you of sexual assult, you would not expect to be punished until it was actually proven [in court].

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Whereas he is of course innocent until proven guilty he certainly doesn’t come across to me as someone who is innocent.

I have no problem rescinding that view if the civil court rules against him.

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Suggestions are he'll settle apprantly. Lots of lawyers have been saying he'll be mad to let it go the trial.

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She’s said several times she’s not interested in a settlement as she wants justice.

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:rofl:

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everybody has a price.

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Two half shandies and a Pina Colada probably ;)

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He doesn’t have much between his ears, so I think perhaps we should reserve judgement until we get some facts.

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You should make that your signature ;).

I'm surprised there isn't some ancient law that he could quote about it being a royal prerogative like eating swans etc.

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That’ll be next - the old "Crown Property" loophole…

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Bozo and Andy should collude, sure they could come up with something about Andy stumbling into her by accident when he thought he was at work with Jeff and Andy could say bozo was with him in pizza express on the night of the parties, neither perspired at any time, job done

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I dont think that applies to New York ?

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There was also an alleged occurrence in the U.K.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal...slaine-maxwell

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The case however is in New York, and 16 is the legal age for sex in the UK.

That account does not exactly help any case of 'assult';

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Wonders why she didn't go after anyone else in that case?

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Their Mothers aren't as rich....

He/She/we will pay whatever is needed to make this go away, but it won't. Payment is as good as an admission of guilt.

Anyone genuinely innocent would also want their day in court to clear their name.