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1701-e 27-06-2019 06:26

New software installing
 
Turning on the V6 and taking near ten minutes to install. Nothing obvious has changed.

Version 20.9.1.rc2-vmb-11-c68

spiderplant 27-06-2019 08:37

Re: New software installing
 
It's in preparation for Amazon Prime and AdSmart. You shouldn't see any changes at the moment.

1701-e 27-06-2019 10:46

Re: New software installing
 
Thanks.

cheekyangus 27-06-2019 10:52

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36000578)
It's in preparation for Amazon Prime and AdSmart. You shouldn't see any changes at the moment.

I had been under the impression the AdSmart system had been implemented already, the ads had seemed to be more relevant for a few months now.

spiderplant 27-06-2019 11:43

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36000598)
I had been under the impression the AdSmart system had been implemented already, the ads had seemed to be more relevant for a few months now.

https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...rt-partnership

cheekyangus 27-06-2019 12:01

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36000603)

Ah. I didn't realise a date was given. They had been talking about it so long I thought my perceived changes in ads were an indication. Ta. :)

ozsat 27-06-2019 13:58

Re: New software installing
 
Something which was removed some time ago but is now back in the latest software is the ability to select different video formats and let the tv do the upscaling.

So if you select both 1080 and 2160 for non-passthru options - then the V6 will output in 1080 for SD/HD channels and switch the tv to 2160 only for the 4K channels.

This means you tv will do the upscaling for the SD/HD channels when using a 4k tv.

It does cause most tvs to blank out for a brief time while switching formats - but I can excuse that as my tv upscales must better then the V6.

mot12 28-06-2019 19:04

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36000639)
Something which was removed some time ago but is now back in the latest software is the ability to select different video formats and let the tv do the upscaling.

So if you select both 1080 and 2160 for non-passthru options - then the V6 will output in 1080 for SD/HD channels and switch the tv to 2160 only for the 4K channels.

This means you tv will do the upscaling for the SD/HD channels when using a 4k tv.

It does cause most tvs to blank out for a brief time while switching formats - but I can excuse that as my tv upscales must better then the V6.

Surprised more people haven't commented on this. Because there are lot of posts around where people have previously moaned about the fact that you could not do what you've described. It's been a long time since you could do that on a virgin box.

After receiving the latest update last night I tried it on my V6 and it works now. I can't decide what upscales better though my Sony XD93 or the V6 box, I actually think the V6 does a better job than some people think. Maybe it is just more about what you've gotten used too though. For now I've kept it to the V6 upscaling.

japitts 01-07-2019 09:44

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36000578)
It's in preparation for Amazon Prime and AdSmart. You shouldn't see any changes at the moment.

I know Amazon Prime is only on V6, but I presume the AdSmart stuff will be on all TiVo too?

cheekyangus 01-07-2019 10:08

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by japitts (Post 36000968)
I know Amazon Prime is only on V6, but I presume the AdSmart stuff will be on all TiVo too?

I would imagine it will depend whether AdSmart needs the box to do something or it's done at Virgin Media's side of the network. The original Tivos are slow enough they had to change the way the tuners worked on them to speed them up a bit, so they wouldn't add AdSmart if it was going to slow them down again.

spiderplant 01-07-2019 11:53

Re: New software installing
 
AdSmart is on V6 only

vincerooney 01-07-2019 15:47

Re: New software installing
 
I know I’ve asked this before but I forgot...with sky and virgin controlling the adverts so does that mean during an episode of coronation street you’ll see different adverts compared to your next door neighbour?

Also does that mean itv lose revenue for example and it goes straight to sky and virgin?

cheekyangus 01-07-2019 16:16

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36001002)
I know I’ve asked this before but I forgot...with sky and virgin controlling the adverts so does that mean during an episode of coronation street you’ll see different adverts compared to your next door neighbour?

Also does that mean itv lose revenue for example and it goes straight to sky and virgin?

It won't. Neither would want sued by the broadcasters, they would probably be breaking some law or contract anyway if they did that.

ozsat 01-07-2019 16:43

Re: New software installing
 
I suspect that particular slots will be sold as slots with have ad-smart opt-outs.

So you could be a 30 second slot in the middle of Coronation Street - knowning in advance that a fixed number of users will get alternate ads from your own.

If they are told in advance then I see no issue. After all - somebody will be missing the transmitted ad whatever time it airs.

Bob 01-07-2019 16:50

Re: New software installing
 
I could be wrong, but suspect AdSmart is for non-linear content. At least at the moment?

ozsat 01-07-2019 16:54

Re: New software installing
 
It is currently on some of Sky EPGs channels on SkyQ. You can spot the ones on Sky Sports Golf as they keep freezing.

Been a few reports in the Sky forums.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 36001015)
I could be wrong, but suspect AdSmart is for non-linear content. At least at the moment?


spiderplant 01-07-2019 21:09

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36001013)
I suspect that particular slots will be sold as slots with have ad-smart opt-outs.

https://www.adsmartfromsky.co.uk/how-sky-adsmart-works/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 36001015)
I could be wrong, but suspect AdSmart is for non-linear content. At least at the moment?

You are indeed wrong. But it only happens on certain channels.

muppetman11 01-07-2019 21:13

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36001017)
It is currently on some of Sky EPGs channels on SkyQ. You can spot the ones on Sky Sports Golf as they keep freezing.

Been a few reports in the Sky forums.

It would be easier to spot them if they had a timer.:D

nomadking 01-07-2019 21:13

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36001017)
It is currently on some of Sky EPGs channels on SkyQ. You can spot the ones on Sky Sports Golf as they keep freezing.

Been a few reports in the Sky forums.

Where Sky owns the channels, won't Sky be the one selling the ad slots in the first place?

ozsat 01-07-2019 22:26

Re: New software installing
 
An agency I guess - but they are on regular channels.

I understand they will be too on VM.

I wonder if the adsmart ad breaks on both platforms are the same slots?

Mr K 04-07-2019 09:46

Re: New software installing
 
Can we opt out of crap like AdSmart, even Google lets you do that, although they make it difficult !

spiderplant 04-07-2019 10:28

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36001341)
Can we opt out of [...] AdSmart

You can, but that just means you'll get random adverts instead. Personally I'd rather have ones that might be in some way useful to me.

Mr K 04-07-2019 10:37

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36001346)
You can, but that just means you'll get random adverts instead. Personally I'd rather have ones that might be in some way useful to me.

How/where do we opt out?

spiderplant 04-07-2019 14:10

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36001347)
How/where do we opt out?

Call Customer Services

Raider999 04-07-2019 15:26

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36001347)
How/where do we opt out?


Watch recordings and FF thru the ads?

BenMcr 04-07-2019 16:20

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36001341)
Can we opt out of crap like AdSmart, even Google lets you do that, although they make it difficult !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36001347)
How/where do we opt out?

On the box go to Help & Settings > Help > Virgin TV > Settings > Advertising Preferences > Continue > Disable Relevant Advertising Setting

MalteseFalcon 04-07-2019 19:19

Re: New software installing
 
More important to me, when does Amazon Prime come to TiVo?

denphone 04-07-2019 20:11

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MalteseFalcon (Post 36001401)
More important to me, when does Amazon Prime come to TiVo?

Its coming soon Mark.;)

Mr K 05-07-2019 21:27

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36001387)
On the box go to Help & Settings > Help > Virgin TV > Settings > Advertising Preferences > Continue > Disable Relevant Advertising Setting

Thank you.

Hopefully they'll be highlighting this opt out (7 levels down from from Help & Settings ! ), and making customers aware they are being targeted with AdSmart. Could they use this info for any other purpose? E.g. selling user profiles to whoever wants it for general sales purposes?

punkrock101 05-07-2019 22:43

Re: New software installing
 
I have opted out of this rubbish I don't want my details sold to advertisers.

OLD BOY 05-07-2019 23:46

Re: New software installing
 
I have not received my update yet. Should I be worried?:shocked:

spiderplant 06-07-2019 08:57

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36001557)
I have not received my update yet. Should I be worried?:shocked:

No

BenMcr 06-07-2019 09:06

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36001547)
Thank you.

Hopefully they'll be highlighting this opt out (7 levels down from from Help & Settings ! ), and making customers aware they are being targeted with AdSmart. Could they use this info for any other purpose? E.g. selling user profiles to whoever wants it for general sales purposes?

Here's the full Privacy policy https://www.virginmedia.com/shop/the...privacy-policy

trublue 09-07-2019 20:52

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36000639)
Something which was removed some time ago but is now back in the latest software is the ability to select different video formats and let the tv do the upscaling.

So if you select both 1080 and 2160 for non-passthru options - then the V6 will output in 1080 for SD/HD channels and switch the tv to 2160 only for the 4K channels.

This means you tv will do the upscaling for the SD/HD channels when using a 4k tv.

It does cause most tvs to blank out for a brief time while switching formats - but I can excuse that as my tv upscales must better then the V6.

Thanks for this,I will let my Sony AF9 do the upscaling for a while to see how it goes.What TV do you have?

KillerCroc1 10-07-2019 14:09

Re: New software installing
 
what is the new software version

ozsat 10-07-2019 14:27

Re: New software installing
 
Panasonic EX750

Quote:

Originally Posted by trublue (Post 36002030)
Thanks for this,I will let my Sony AF9 do the upscaling for a while to see how it goes.What TV do you have?



---------- Post added at 14:27 ---------- Previous post was at 14:27 ----------

20.9.1.rc2

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerCroc1 (Post 36002081)
what is the new software version


KillerCroc1 10-07-2019 14:58

Re: New software installing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36002084)
Panasonic EX750



---------- Post added at 14:27 ---------- Previous post was at 14:27 ----------

20.9.1.rc2

thanks ozsat im on the new software :-) all we need no is amazon to launch


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