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denphone 01-06-2019 21:04
US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
Nearly all applicants for US visas will have to submit their social media details under newly adopted rules.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48486672

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The State Department regulations say people will have to submit social media names and five years' worth of email addresses and phone numbers.
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When proposed last year, authorities estimated the proposal would affect 14.7 million people annually.
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However, people travelling to the US to work or to study will have to hand over their information.
What are your thoughts about this?.

Mr K 01-06-2019 21:37
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35997573)
Nearly all applicants for US visas will have to submit their social media details under newly adopted rules.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48486672

What are your thoughts about this?.
:confused: And if you don't do social media ?
Does CF count ? Will they be looking at the Trump thread? ;)

Hugh 01-06-2019 22:48
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35997575)
:confused: And if you don't do social media ?
Does CF count ? Will they be looking at the Trump thread? ;)
It’s only (at this time) for visa applicants - tourists requiring ESTAs aren’t included in this.

OLD BOY 01-06-2019 23:24
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
Personally, I couldn't care less. I have no wish to go to Trump's America.

Mythica 02-06-2019 00:55
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35997592)
It’s only (at this time) for visa applicants - tourists requiring ESTAs aren’t included in this.
Though they do ask on the ESTA but it's not mandatory.

denphone 02-06-2019 04:50
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35997598)
Personally, I couldn't care less. I have no wish to go to Trump's America.
Not a chance of me ever going before and even less of a chance now.

Hugh 02-06-2019 08:33
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
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Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 35997604)
Though they do ask on the ESTA but it's not mandatory.
Thanks - they didn’t have that question the last time I applied (November 2016).

Mythica 02-06-2019 09:53
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35997616)
Thanks - they didn’t have that question the last time I applied (November 2016).
I believe I applied for an Esta around March to May 2017 time and was asked then. From a quick Google I believe it started around December 2016.

Russ 02-06-2019 10:19
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That would count me out if it ever became mandatory :Yikes:

nomadking 02-06-2019 10:59
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
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Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 35997623)
I believe I applied for an Esta around March to May 2017 time and was asked then. From a quick Google I believe it started around December 2016.
That would make it before Trump.

Anonymouse 02-06-2019 11:35
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35997611)
Not a chance of me ever going before and even less of a chance now.
No, nor me; for one thing it's none of Trump's business - or anyone else's, for that matter - what I do on social media...and for another, I don't do anything on social media!

I've never had a Facebook account/profile/whatever the damn thing's called. I've never used Twitter and don't ever intend to. This and Fireflyfans.net are the only message boards I frequent these days.

No, I think any possible visit even as a tourist (because how long will it be before this applies to tourists as well? Thin end of the wedge...) will have to wait until the current nonsense, i.e. Trump's presidency, is consigned to the dustbin of American history where it belongs.

Damien 02-06-2019 21:25
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
On an unrelated note can I just say that Trump is a great guy who really knows what he is doing?

Mr K 02-06-2019 21:27
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35997673)
On an unrelated note can I just say that Trump is a great guy who really knows what he is doing?
You're obviously being sarcastic to his highness, so you're still not allowed in !

Russ 02-06-2019 21:39
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35997673)
On an unrelated note can I just say that Trump is a great guy who really knows what he is doing?
Yes and I'm sure I'll grow my hair back.

Mick 02-06-2019 22:02
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
This is nothing really that new....

...but any excuse to have a bash @ Trump, I guess.

A British Couple were denied entry in 2012 (During Obama's Presidency) for tweeting they were looking forward to absolutely destroying America. What they meant was have a good time, U.S did not see it this way and treated them as a terrorist threat with that single tweet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16810312

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In another tweet, Mr Bryan made reference to comedy show Family Guy saying that he would be in LA in three weeks, annoying people "and diggin' Marilyn Monroe up".

Mr Bryan told the newspaper that he was questioned for five hours about his Twitter messages.

1andrew1 02-06-2019 23:09
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35997679)
This is nothing really that new....

...but any excuse to have a bash @ Trump, I guess.

A British Couple were denied entry in 2012 (During Obama's Presidency) for tweeting they were looking forward to absolutely destroying America. What they meant was have a good time, U.S did not see it this way and treated them as a terrorist threat with that single tweet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16810312
What's the same is that the US monitors social posts. What's new is the emphasis being on applicants to proactively disclose their social media accounts as appose to the US authorities researching them as they did before.
I suspect it's not Trump-originated legislation, more a reaction to the scale of social media around these days and the costs involved.

jonbxx 03-06-2019 08:53
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Last year, our working immigration team recommended that anyone who traveled to the US has some kind of social media profile somewhere to aid travel to the US. This included ESTA applications which do have an optional section for social media profiles.

Basically, you you do not exist on social media, that immediately raises some red flags at Homeland Security.

Mr K 03-06-2019 09:14
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 35997711)
Last year, our working immigration team recommended that anyone who traveled to the US has some kind of social media profile somewhere to aid travel to the US. This included ESTA applications which do have an optional section for social media profiles.

Basically, you you do not exist on social media, that immediately raises some red flags at Homeland Security.
Raises concerns that you have a life ? ;)

denphone 03-06-2019 09:17
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35997714)
Raises concerns that you have a life ? ;)
Pretty pathetic ain't it...

jonbxx 03-06-2019 12:07
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35997714)
Raises concerns that you have a life ? ;)
Not like having nearly 5,000 posts on a Cable Forum ;)

The list does include LinkedIn as well as the fun ones. The list of applicable social media platforms is in this article - https://thepointsguy.com/news/select...edia-accounts/

Stephen 04-06-2019 20:12
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35997616)
Thanks - they didn’t have that question the last time I applied (November 2016).
I did apply for an ESTA in Feb 2016 and the social media question was on there, although it was not mandatory to provide the information.

RichardCoulter 05-06-2019 02:43
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
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Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 35997628)


No, nor me; for one thing it's none of Trump's business - or anyone else's, for that matter - what I do on social media...and for another, I don't do anything on social media!

I've never had a Facebook account/profile/whatever the damn thing's called. I've never used Twitter and don't ever intend to. This and Fireflyfans.net are the only message boards I frequent these days.

No, I think any possible visit even as a tourist (because how long will it be before this applies to tourists as well? Thin end of the wedge...) will have to wait until the current nonsense, i.e. Trump's presidency, is consigned to the dustbin of American history where it belongs.
Well, message boards/forums are literally a form of social media, but whether America will class them as such IDK.

If anyone desperately wants to go to live in America, they could always delete selected posts on Facebook (not sure if you can do this with the others) or ask forums to delete any posts that might be troublesome.

jonbxx 05-06-2019 09:05
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35997983)
Well, message boards/forums are literally a form of social media, but whether America will class them as such IDK.

If anyone desperately wants to go to live in America, they could always delete selected posts on Facebook (not sure if you can do this with the others) or ask forums to delete any posts that might be troublesome.
It seems to be mostly pure social media platforms plus, strangely Ask.FM and YouTube;
  • Ask.FM
  • Douban
  • Facebook
  • Flickr
  • Google+
  • Instagram
  • LinkedIn
  • Myspace
  • Pinterest
  • QZone(QQ)
  • REDDIT
  • SINA WEIBO
  • TENCENT WEIBO
  • TUMBLR
  • TWITTER
  • TWOO
  • VINE
  • VKONTAKTE(VK)
  • YOUKU
  • YOUTUBE

mrmistoffelees 05-06-2019 09:47
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
People not being happy about this should undergo either the Global Entry program or DV clearance THEN they would have something to not be happy about

jonbxx 05-06-2019 16:32
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35998006)
People not being happy about this should undergo either the Global Entry program or DV clearance THEN they would have something to not be happy about
Hah! Toyed with Global Entry but it really wasn't worth the hassle for 4-5 trips a year...

Mind you, one of my work buddies is a US citizen and getting in to the UK sounds like a right pain too, and really expensive in terms of visa costs

1andrew1 05-06-2019 17:32
Re: US adopt strict rules for Visa applicants
 
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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 35998066)
Hah! Toyed with Global Entry but it really wasn't worth the hassle for 4-5 trips a year...

Mind you, one of my work buddies is a US citizen and getting in to the UK sounds like a right pain too, and really expensive in terms of visa costs
Maybe these issues can be sorted as part of any UK-US trade deal?


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