Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Although these have tended to be posted in other discussions, like Coming Soon, given most of these switches of channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4 are just the same content delivered differently I am going to post any I find, here instead.

There's still plenty to be switched over, so this thread should be active for a wee while yet.

Mostly people won't notice any difference when channels are switched, unless the channels in question are moved about which has the unfortunate side effect of unFavouriting them from a user's Favourite Channels list (if you use it)

I'm not going to retroactively list any that have switched prior to this post.

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First up. The main BBC Red Button (on VM TV guide at 991), which I, briefly, thought has switched yesterday, until I checked on my box in the afternoon, has now switched over to MPEG4. It is showing as such on my V6 box now.

There doesn't seem to be any other changes overnight.

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I see Media Boy has compiled two lists on his blog/website on the MPEG4 switches.

Channels still to move over - here
Channels moved to MPEG4 previously - here

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DBR's UK cable listing hasn't been updated and is marked as OFF. Any overnight changes won't be listed.

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I'm still new to DBR and hadn't looked at the front page before! I see what you mean epsilon. Thank you :)

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Well the DBR website may not be updating for VM in the UK, but at least 3 more channels definitely switched over. They disappeared from my Favourites was the first clue and I then confirmed it by checking on my V6 box.

The channels that changed are Universal Channel, Movies 24, Movies 24+.

It's not the whole of Tsid 9 as I also checked CNBC and Syfy, and those were still MPEG2.

I may check more channels on Tsid 9 if I get a spare moment.

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The DBR website is still not updating.

However two of my Favourited channels are no longer favourited, and again on further investigation they have both been switched over to MPEG4.

The two channels that have changed are Eurosport 1 (ch 523) and SyFy (ch 135).

That now makes 6 that have required re-Favouriting in the last few days (Universal Channel, Movies24, Movies24+ and BBC Red Button 1 being the others).

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

We can reveal the following channels has moved over to MPEG4 this week and HAS moved to new streams:

Tuesday:
-Quest Red
-God Channel
-Islam Channel Urdu
-Movies 24
-Movies 24+
-Universal Channel
-SYFY +1
-Universal Channel +1
-BBC Red Button 1

Wednesday:
-SYFY
-CNBC
-B4U Movies (We do not know if this channel has moved)
-B4U Music
-E!
-Sky Sports Football
-Eurosport 1
-Love Nature

Channels still to moved over to MPEG4:

-SkyWitness +1
-Television X
-Turner Classic Movies
-Adult Previews
-Comedy Central Extra
-FOX+1
-Eurosport 2
-Sky Sports News

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UPDATE: B4U Movies has gone over to MPEG4.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

We posted that wee bit at the end of list due to Eurosport 1 and Love Nature being on the same stream as the channels listed until today.

We feel the channels listed will move to MPEG4 as soon as tomorrow.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I was thinking the same. :) It worked that way last week.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

We can reveal the following channels has moved over to MPEG4 today and HAS moved to new streams:

Thursday:
-SkyWitness +1
-Television X
-Turner Classic Movies
-Adult Previews
-Comedy Central Extra
-FOX+1
-Eurosport 2
-Sky Sports News

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Well that switch obviously messed something up. I'm getting none of those channels now, just an "unavailable" V53 error message on the 6 of those I tried. And that was after a reboot.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I'm getting the same error with Turner Classic Movies, Fox +1, Comedy Central Extra and Eurosport 2. I've also rebooted the V6 and reset the network

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

:( The ever helpful spiderplant is looking into it. It's not happening for everyone apparently.

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It's been fixed for me now. Thanks to spiderplant. :)

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ve=209&lang=en

Digital BitRate is updating again.

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10 Streams has still to join MPEG4 so we have work out.

-If Virgin Media add 5 streams to MPEG4 every two weeks we feel it will end on May 14th.

-We feel the next streams will join on April 29th.

C046
-alibi +1

C053
-Kerrang

C054
-ITVBe

C064
-I.D.

C065
-Sky Action

C067
-Sky Sports Racing


C068
-Desi Entertainment

C069
-BBC Parliament


C070
-New Music On Demand

C073
-Vevo

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Another week, another set of switches on the way (based on DigitalBitRate).

There are no names and no screen grabs, just a several sets of "New San Nom", so no idea which ones are changing over. There are 9 on Tsid 3 and 10 on Tsid 2.

What is clear is they will be moving stream so will require to be re-added to your Favourites list if they were on it.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Those look more like data right now than tv/radio channels.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I think you are correct. Especially as those streams already have as many TV channels as they are capable of carrying at MPEG4. I should have realised that earlier. I blame my coffee not kicking in :D

I didn't mention the new items on Tsid 4 earlier as those looked like data, with their Tier labels.

The new Tsid 2 and Tsid3 items will probably be housekeeping.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

PCR says Virgin Media are set to move all the Red button streams this week.

PCR 8191 is for on Demand or Red Button steams.

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If you look up the new PMT and PCR it will reveal what is set to move.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

CO67 has this week been closedown by Virgin Media UK.

Two Channels has been added to C065 (Still in MPEG2)

-Sky Hits (Moves from CO69)
-Sky Sports Racing (Moves from CO67)

The following channels has been readded to CO69:

-NDTV India
-NDTV Spice
-NDTV Good Times

Q: WHY DID I HAVE TO RESET MY FAVOURITES CHANNELS FOR SKY SPORTS RACING?
A: Virgin Media UK has this week (Found on April 24th) has moved all channels listed on this post to new streams (But still broadcasting in MPEG2). So if you are an fan of any channel listed you will have to readd it to your Favourites Channels list.

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12 Streams has still to join MPEG4 so we have work out.

-If Virgin Media add up to 5 streams to MPEG4 every two weeks we feel it will now end on May 28th.

-We feel the next streams will join on April 29th.

C034
-A Message For Parents

C036 (Red Button stream)
-SptsETV01

C046
-alibi +1

C052
-Pop Power

C053
-Kerrang

C054
-ITVBe

C064
-I.D.

C065
-Sky Action

C068
-Desi Entertainment

C069
-BBC Parliament

C070
-New Music On Demand

C073
-Vevo

On April 29th, May 13th and May 27th viewers will not need to reset their FAVOURITES CHANNELS as the channels moving to MPEG4 on that day will just start broadcasting in MPEG4 on the streams their are broadcasting on right now.

Media Boy HQ do not work for Virgin Media UK so dates may change.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I hadn't noticed that closure or those moves. I saw the NDTV thing a few days ago but couldn't work out what it was that had occurred given it hadn't seemed to have changed anything obvious.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I've been thinking about the move of Sky Hits and Sky Sports Racing onto the multiplex/frequency mentioned by Media Boy above. They have been moved alongside what seems to be all (?) of the other Sky Cinema SD channels. It occurred to me that they might just switch off all of these SD channels as part of a new Sky deal.

My reasoning being that, as I understand it, Sky Cinema subscribers get all the channels, both HD and SD, and given VM customers all have HD capable boxes now they will see the carrying of the SD Cinema channels as a needless duplication.

As for Sky Sports Racing, there is an HD version, and it hasn't launched on VM yet. Maybe they will simply replace the SD one with the HD version?

So my theory is the whole of Tsid 18 multiplex/frequency, which these are now on, will simply be switched off rather than switch to MPEG4 SD versions.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Once all streams are switched to Mpeg4 will there be any benefits for users? Improved PQ perhaps?

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

The main benefit for customers is lower recording space needed for the same picture quality (and for Virgin Media, less network capacity needed).

Overall picture quality is more the domain of the original broadcaster than Virgin Media.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Seriously doubt it

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Have to say the change to MPEG4 hasn't improved my life in any way. Very disappointing !

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It's made my recording percentage stay relatively stagnant. :D

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Have channels 1-5 moved over to MPEG4 yet?

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Well it does take quite a lot to cheer up dear old Victor.;)

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As all HD on VM is MPEG4 now what follows is with regards to SD versions of 1-5.

I think all the variations of BBC2 are, as are Channel 4 regions and Channel 5. I'm not certain all the regions of ITV are, and there are some BBC1 regions that aren't.
E.g. based on DBR website, which I believe is showing VM network in Manchester, Tsid 101 on DBR for North West isn't, neither is BBC1 Scotland and BBC1 Wales on Tsid 10.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Apologies if this has been mentioned, but has anyone else noticed that the picture is stretched vertically on SD channels that have moved to MPEG4? Very noticeable to me, especially when the same coverage is being shown on Sky Sports Main Event and one of the other Sky Sports channels, Main Event shows it correctly but graphics are much closer to the edge of the screen on the other Sky Sports channels.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Well spotted. It happens because it's impossible to exactly encode 720x576 video in MPEG4. The closest available resolution is used instead, and this results in just over 2% of the picture being cropped.

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Yeah, I should have said 1-5 SD.

So it looks like we might still be recording BBC1 and ITV in the less efficient format of MPEG2. As i'm running low on disc space, I'll ensure that I watch things on these channels first as it might help.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Being in Scotland 1-3 have HD swapped, so we're using more disk space for those.
(Strictly speaking recording other areas mean we don't have to yet, but we have plenty disk space so it's not a problem.)

The speed of BBC1 and ITV regions being converted to HD is holding it up. I'm not actually sure how far off ITV are now, the BBC still has quite a few to do I understand, as they say they don't have the money to push on.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Digital BitRate and TiVo has confirmed that ITVBe has gone MPEG4 today.

DBR says ITV AD join MPEG4 on December 7th 2018.

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The following channels now look set to follow soon (Stream CO54)

-Paramount Network
-BT Sport Extra 0
-BT Sport Extra 2
-BT Sport Extra 3
-BT Sport Extra 4
-ITV2
-ITV4
-BT Sport Extra 5
-BT Sport Extra 6
-ITV4 +1

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http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ve=209&lang=en

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I didn't see that this (ok it's now yesterday at time of typing) morning. :)

I hope your prediction is true, Tour De Yorkshire starts later today and should I choose to record it rather than watch the later ITV4 highlights show, that will, of course, reduce recording size, which is particularly good for long events like start to finish coverage of live cycling.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

DBR reports ITVBe did move over sometime between 08:36 and 16:30 yesterday (May 1st)

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Can't you watch it on ITV4 HD - it broadcasting in MPEG4.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Why not come to God's Own County and watch it in ultra ultra HD from the roadside ? ;)

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

No, I'm not on Full House. And HD in MPEG4 would take up more recording space than MPEG2 SD.

I've plenty disk space, it's not a problem.

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I'd rather see the lovely countryside in person without the race. A-B cycle races don't benefit, like golf, from being there. There are certain sports that you can follow better on TV because of the large area covered.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Anyone know the difference between recording something in SD with MPEG2 and HD in MPEG4? I suspect that the HD/MPEG4 would stiill use up more disc space, but not as much as you'd think.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

One new Channel has been added to C069 (Still in MPEG2)

-Kids TV On Demand (Moves from CO73)

The following channel has been readded to CO68:

-Virgin TV Ultra HD

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Bangers (Pay Per Night) has launch today in MPEG2 using Television X 2 (Pay Per Night) old stream (Program number 1513) and EPG Channel number 976.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Q: WHY DID I HAVE TO RESET MY FAVOURITES ADULT CHANNELS FOR?
A: Media Boy HQ has found (Found on May 14th) that Virgin Media UK has readded some Adult Channels to their broadcasting streams (Still in MPEG2).

They are:

971. Babes TV PPN
972. Adult PPN
976. Bangers PPN

Source of Information: TiVo.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

The obvious reason someone would have to reset their favourite adult channels is not being able to work the internet properly. :D

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Why are people going to pay per night to watch programmes about clapped out cars ??:confused:

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We have all non HD Channels set as favourite to keep an eye on them going over to MPEG4.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Over the last few days FOUR new channels has started to broadcast on C052.

One is broadcasting in UHD
Two is broadcasting in MPEG2
One is broadcasting in MPEG4

-BT Sport 4K Hidden (HEVC)
-BT Sport 4K Slate (MPEG2)*
-BT Sport HD Hidden (MPEG2)**
-BT Sport HD Hidden (MPEG4)**

*Broadcasting an Slate about BBC TWO HD moving to Channel 102.
**Broadcasting BT Sport 2 HD.

http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ng=en&mux=C052

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Also an new channel has appeared on C073

Channel is called Pure Babes HD (SID 2207) and still broadcasting in MPEG2.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I posted this yesterday morning on the sport thread. I can't think what it would be though, and no-one else suggested anything. Any ideas?

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I did not see your post from when I saw it today I want to this thread.

I think Virgin Media UK are maybe set to launch an UHD Stream on CO52.

As Virgin TV Ultra UHD sits beside Red Button and Radio Channels on CO68.
And BT Sport 4K UHD also sits beside Red Button and Radio Channels on CO73.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Another UHD stream? I wonder what that would be?

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Virgin Media do NOT have an UHD Stream. All UHD Channels sits beside Radio or Red Button Channels over two streams.

As far as I know Virgin are broadcasting two Virgin TV Ultra HD Channels on CO68:

-Virgin TV Ultra HD (Old) (SID 2102)
-Virgin TV Ultra HD (New) (SID 2104)

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I wasn't arguing with you, just quoting your very own post, old chap!:D

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

BT Sport Hidden has previously been a stream for channel 100, so my guess is that these are for the Champions League and Europa Cup finals.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Meet The Babes is broadcasting in MPEG4 on CO30.

Prue Babes HD is broadcasting in MPEG2 on Virgin Channel 983.

Channel 4 AD has been readded to CO57.

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May has been an bad month for Channels going over from MPEG2 to MPEG4 so far this month only TWO Channels has joins MPEG4. Here hoping June is better.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I put the slow down in changes down to the large number of pixelisation complaints that got reported a few weeks ago. VM probably wanted to halt MPEG4 switches while they investigated and fixed. Not necessarily because they were related.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Zee TV HD (It was broadcasting on SID 2407) has close on CO75 and Zee TV has launch in MPEG4 on CO29.

Viewers can view Zee TV if they have Asian Mela.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

The MPEG4 switches are starting again (source DigitalBitRate).

On Tsid5/C064.
Investigation Discovery, Animal Planet+1, Discovery Science+1, DMAX+1,Discovery History +1, Home & Health +1, Discovery Shed, DMAX+1, Horse & Country, I.D.+1, Box Nation, SONY SAB, Travel Channel, Sony Crime Channel, QVC Style.

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And on Tsid10/C069.
BBC Parliament, BBC ONE Scotland, BBC ONE Wales, XXX Brits, Kids TV On Demand, Gems TV, Food Network, PBS America, Sky Arts, NDTV India, NDTV Spice, NDTV Good Times.

None of these two groups have changed multiplex/frequency so no need to re-Add to Favourites any of these.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Thanks for info.

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Look like the following channels are set to move to CO69 (Now testing on number)

Paramount Network (1002)
Channel unkown [ITVBe?] (1006)
Channel unkown [TV X?] (1009)
Television PPN Info (1010)
Virgin TV Highlights (1013)
Channel unkown [Bangers?] (1018)
Bangers PPN Info (1019)
ITV2 (2001)
ITV4 (2101)
Channel unknown [40+?] (2201)
40+ PPN Info (2371)
Channel unknown [Adult Channel] (2401)
Adult Channel PPN Info (2571)

So CO46, CO53, CO54, CO65 and CO70 all may move in the coming days (Wednesday and Thursday).

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Do anyone think the following channels will move to CO69 this week?

(Now testing on number)

Paramount Network (1002)
Channel unkown [ITVBe?] (1006)
Channel unkown [TV X?] (1009)
Television PPN Info (1010)
Virgin TV Highlights (1013)
Channel unkown [Bangers?] (1018)
Bangers PPN Info (1019)
ITV2 (2001)
ITV4 (2101)
Channel unknown [40+?] (2201)
40+ PPN Info (2371)
Channel unknown [Adult Channel] (2401)
Adult Channel PPN Info (2571)

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Does anyone know if ITV and ITV2 have changed over yet? If so, when did this happen? Thanks.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

ITV, ITV3 and ITVBe has moved.

ITV2, ITV4 and ITV4 +1 has still to move.

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Channels still to moved:

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/p/...-mpeg4-on.html

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ITVBe moved on May 1st.
ITV2 +1 and ITVBe +1 did move on April 1st.

ITV, ITV3, ITV3 +1 and CITV was moved before April 1st 2019. (We only started to follow on April 1st.)

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Cheers MB :)

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

More MPEG4 switches has happen today: (Source: TiVo and DigitalBitRate).

The Following channels has joined Tsid5/C064.
Kerrang, Box Hits, Kiss, The Box, Magic, Box Upfront and Comedy Central

Due to them changed multiplex/frequency you will need to re-Add to your Favourites.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

There's also two New Sans Noms on that multiplex/frequency.
One is Cartoonito as I can see the logo in the DBR screengrab, and the other is showing an advert in its screengrab. My guess is it's Fox as it will be the only 24hr channel left on Tsid15/C053 once Cartoonito moves.

So I'd guess Cartoonito and Fox will move this week based on previous experience.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

FIVE new channels now testing on CO32.

Five new channels are now testing on CO32 (SID) 902 to (SID) 906 we think it for BBC Red Button.

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We have now also found an other channel testing on CO32 (SID) 901 we think that is for BBC Red Button HD.

Look like someone at Virgin HQ is playing games - the EPG on (SID) 901 says "Let`s Scramble"

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We also think the other one will be FOX (They broadcast Tellyshopping about the time that screengrab was took).

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We now think the following channels is set to move by Friday.

Moving to CO64:
FOX
Cartoonito

Moving to CO69:
Paramount Network
Channel unkown [ITVBe?]
Channel unkown [TV X?]
Television PPN Info
Virgin TV Highlights
Channel unkown [Bangers?]
Bangers PPN Info
ITV2
ITV4
Channel unknown [40+?]
40+ PPN Info
Channel unknown [Adult Channel?]
Adult Channel PPN Info

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Fox & Cartoonito have indeed switched over to MPEG4 and moved multiplex/frequency.

Other moves include ITVBe (already MPEG4), Virgin Movies & Store and Paramount Network SD.

These, as usual, will need reFavourited.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Also TV X Pay Per Night info channel 970 was moved too.

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Following channels may move to CO69 tonight:
Channel unkown [Bangers?]
Bangers PPN Info
ITV2
ITV4
Channel unknown [40+?]
40+ PPN Info
Channel unknown [Adult Channel?]
Adult Channel PPN Info

But the following will still be on CO54 after tonight.

BT Sport Extra 0*
BT Sport Extra 2*
BT Sport Extra 3*
BT Sport Extra 4*
ITV Audio Desc**
BT Sport Extra 5*
BT Sport Extra 6*
ITV4 +1**

*We think BT Sport Extra Channel may stay on CO54 and the stream will become for Red Button channels,

**No idea where ITV AD and ITV4 +1 will end up.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

More MPEG4 switches has happen today: (Source: TiVo and DigitalBitRate).

The Following channels has joined C069.
Bangers PPN Info, ITV2, ITV4, 40+ PPN Info and Adult Channel PPN Info,

Due to them changed multiplex/frequency you will need to re-Add to your Favourites.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

So when is Atlantic coming , MB?

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Ask OB as he seems fairly postive.:D

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Any time now, if the presumed end date of the existing carriage deal is anything to go by.

Hazarding a guess, I would say July or August.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Seeing the last one was done in May 2014 then May 2019 has already been and gone.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...l-sky-atlantic

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I'm thinking that the deal has already been done but the details are to be announced on a date they have agreed already..The new arrangements may well come into play on the same date as the new Sky/BT carriage deal, which we also do not know, even though the deal has been agreed.

However, due to the secrecy around all of this, no-one can be absolutely definitive about any of it.

Back on topic, does anyone know whether the MPEG4 implementation is responsible for the occasional pixelation that is now appearing on some channels?

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

No, it isn't. But the associated frequency moves might have moved channels that you watch to frequencies where you have a signal fault. Whatever, if you have pixellation, you need to report it to VM.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Thanks, spiderplant. It's only occasional at the moment, so I'll see how it goes.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I had quite bad pixellation on a few channels especially BBC Scotland amongst other. Reported it and the engineer when he arrived mentioned that the signal was awful and he was surprised we weren't having more issues.

Signal was fine coming in so he replaced all the cables and wall box (internal) as it had been in 20 years. Also removed the splitter that originally went upstairs, now all good.

As SP said - worth giving them a ring.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Just to clarify. You specified that the wall box replaced was internal, was the replaced cabling inside AND outside then?

If outside, did they notice any visible damage?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I was going to ask...

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

The last time Virgin Media UK sign an deal with Sky UK (May 2014)

Any new channels did now launch until July 15th 2014.

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...nels.html#more

As part of that 2014 deal we got Sky Sports 5, Sky Sports 5 HD, Sky Sports News HD, Sky News HD plus Sky ask Virgin Media to move channels about on the EPG.

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So if the Sky deal is up this year we won't see anything until after June.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

July sounds about right to me.

Hopefully, we will get all the UHD material Sky put out with this deal, as well as Sky Atlantic. Still no firm news on any of this yet, apart from that announcement when the BT deal was announced. So it's still fingers crossed time!

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Like the horizon is this just going to slide month by month?

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

That's a matter for VM and Sky, but I don't see why that would be the case, to be honest. Unless, of course, the two companies have reached an impasse, which appears unlikely from what I have read. Relationships have improved massively from the bad old days of 2009.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

So we know a contract was signed but don’t know the exact end date, or if any extension applies and indeed whether any extension would be announced. Sounds like we can just make it up as we please.

I’ll take August in time for the football season.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Can we move this talk about Sky/Virgin Media to the coming soon thread if you don't mind.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Has anyone else seen that Virgin Media has got Premier Sports 2 HD on it own on CO47

When the other HD Streams has got up to 7 HD Channels on the steams bar CO75 and CO76 they only got 6. (Due to ZEE HD and Living Foodz HD closing)

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

It's been like this for ages. At the most it's only had two ot three channels to keep it company but they've been away for a month or so (well it feels like it).

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I wonder if the split up of Liberty Global's various assets might be having a knock on effect on VM as the tech (and expertise) will be split between different companies.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

The following channels are no longer broadcasting in MPEG2:

100. Virgin Media Highlights (Virgin Media Showcase)
998. Virgin Media Highlights (Virgin Media What's On)

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Source: DigitalBitRate).

Channels moved to new CO's:

CO 46 is also on CO 47
CO 47 moves to CO 72
CO 72 moves to CO 60

VIEWERS WILL NOT NEED TO DO ANYTHING.

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These happened at the beginning of the week.

As someone (sorry I forget who) told me previously, the COs get moved about all the time, and are often limited to one region on the network. The COs are also different numbers in different regions. These CO changes may only apply to region that DBR gets its readings from. Since I got told this I only look out for Tsid changes as these don't vary by region as I understand it.

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Noticing a worse PQ lately, presumably as a result of Mpeg4 compression?

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On which channels?

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I recall someone, I don't want to misquote someone or attribute it to the wrong person, saying MPEG4 compression algorithms can't reproduce 720x480 resolution spot-on so they do 704x480 (or similar) since there is no point in going slightly bigger, and it's closest resolution.

If this is true it could explain it. MPEG4 compression apparently works better on reproducing other common higher resolutions so maybe with HD becoming the norm many in the industry think the trade-off is worth it for the remaining SD channels as it simplifies their infrastructure and lowers costs by running as few codecs on networks as possible.

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That was me, explaining why the picture is slightly cropped on some channels. I doubt you would notice a PQ difference between 720 and 704

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As I only watch sport it will be on the Sky Sports channels - when I said PQ deterioration I mean the picture breaks up.

This has been noticeable on a number of the Cricket World Cup matches when watching live. (So mainly 504)

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Oh, that's probably a signal fault. You need a technician visit.

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Sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere in thread but is this move why the sides of pictures are cut off? Really annoying on sport where the home team name is now missing on Ozzie rules matches.

I know my TV doesn't like HD and switches to 4:3. It does this most channels now. SD is our choice as we don't have HD TV and recording take far less space.

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Literally a couple of posts above:

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You may be correct.

I have managed to narrow it down a bit - mostly when a roving (presumably hand-held) camera is being used instead of the main cameras

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well that would be a problem from source. Possibly there is too much camera movement to encode cleanly. Can you get me a screenshot of the problem?

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I will try to next time I see the problem.