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OLD BOY 21-12-2018 18:22

The future of TV, broadcasting and media
 
This thread is for posts about what is being reported on the future of TV, broadcasting and the media by experts and commentators in the know.

I found this item, which I thought I would share with you. The particular points that interested me about developments for 2019 and beyond were:

1. Many more streaming services will be launched in 2019.

2. A question mark remains over whether Disney will partner with pay tv providers and bundle Disney+ into their offers.

3. 5G will impact the media industry and will pose both an opportunity and a threat for IPTV, cable and satellite providsrs, in ways not yet foreseen, particularly post 2019. However, one thing we do know is that video quality will improve with 5G.

4. There is an acknowledgement that there is only room for a limited number of SVOD services.

5. There will be a mix of ad-supported and subscription streaming models.

6. AI will see continued advancement and deployments, with near real time sub-titling benefiting from this. It will also become a key tool in identifying content.

7. Cloud technology will be used in ever more creative ways to engage viewers for longer.

8. Super-aggregation of OTT apps and SVOD services will result from increasing fragmentation of content. A number of pay tv providers (and this includes Liberty Global, by the way) see themselves as super-aggregators (which I believe means that we should be getting Prime very soon).

It's an interesting read and some will find other interesting points to bring out of this.

http://www.csimagazine.com/csi/2019-...redictions.php

Raider999 21-12-2018 23:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35976476)
This thread is for posts about what is being reported on the future of TV, broadcasting and the media by experts and commentators in the know.

I found this item, which I thought I would share with you. The particular points that interested me about developments for 2019 and beyond were:

1. Many more streaming services will be launched in 2019.

2. A question mark remains over whether Disney will partner with pay tv providers and bundle Disney+ into their offers.

3. 5G will impact the media industry and will pose both an opportunity and a threat for IPTV, cable and satellite providsrs, in ways not yet foreseen, particularly post 2019. However, one thing we do know is that video quality will improve with 5G.

4. There is an acknowledgement that there is only room for a limited number of SVOD services.

5. There will be a mix of ad-supported and subscription streaming models.

6. AI will see continued advancement and deployments, with near real time sub-titling benefiting from this. It will also become a key tool in identifying content.

7. Cloud technology will be used in ever more creative ways to engage viewers for longer.

8. Super-aggregation of OTT apps and SVOD services will result from increasing fragmentation of content. A number of pay tv providers (and this includes Liberty Global, by the way) see themselves as super-aggregators (which I believe means that we should be getting Prime very soon).

It's an interesting read and some will find other interesting points to bring out of this.

http://www.csimagazine.com/csi/2019-...redictions.php

Really, what a load of b******* - give us some facts to back your statements (😉Some of which seem to contradict themselves) please.

Yet another the world apart fro streaming is doomed post!

OLD BOY 22-12-2018 00:13

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35976496)
Really, what a load of b******* - give us some facts to back your statements (😉Some of which seem to contradict themselves) please.

Yet another the world apart fro streaming is doomed post!

Not my words, Raider. I am merely drawing your attention to an article.

What exactly is rattling your cage?

Mr K 22-12-2018 10:58

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If we're all.going to be streaming everything all the time, several streams a house, I can forsee some technical difficulties.... Broadcast TV and recordings are far more reliable and will be for some time.

denphone 22-12-2018 11:39

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35976529)
If we're all.going to be streaming everything all the time, several streams a house, I can forsee some technical difficulties.... Broadcast TV and recordings are far more reliable and will be for some time.

Nothing like a post full of reality rather then one full of fantasy predictions which never come true..;)

Mad Max 22-12-2018 12:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35976496)
Really, what a load of b******* - give us some facts to back your statements (😉Some of which seem to contradict themselves) please.

Yet another the world apart fro streaming is doomed post!

Out the wrong side of bed did we? As OB said, he posted a link to an article, but maybe you missed that....:erm:

OLD BOY 22-12-2018 12:52

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35976542)
Out the wrong side of bed did we? As OB said, he posted a link to an article, but maybe you missed that....:erm:

That's right, Max. I'm not sure where Raider sees contradictions. Perhaps we could help him with that if he could tell us what they were.

Of course, he's not the only one on these forums who likes to discredit predictions such as these without giving any logical explanation for their views. I think they just want things to stay the same - some see safety in that. However, change is going on all the time and it is difficult for me to understand why this just seems to pass some people by.

I think the future for developments in this area is very exciting, and I would have thought that contributors to this forum, who clearly have an interest in media issues, would have been of like mind. Seems that isn't the case.

OLD BOY 22-12-2018 15:46

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Disney's Kevin Mayer is suggesting that Disney + will be the exclusive home of all Disney content when it is fully established. That appears to answer the question posed about whether Disney would still grant access to their programmes on channels such as Sky.

Interesting also that he is setting his sights on providing a sports option to add to its general entertainment and children's options on its site. No doubt, Disney will be learning from the experience of Eleven Sports in the UK. I see battles with Sky Television looming large here.

http://www.nscreenmedia.com/disney-anchor-tenancy/

“We would like to have an international trilogy of services where it makes sense. We want a sports service like we have here; we want a general entertainment service, which would be Hulu, in different places around the world where we don’t have that; and we want to have Disney around the world.”

denphone 22-12-2018 17:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35976544)
Of course, he's not the only one on these forums who likes to discredit predictions such as these without giving any logical explanation for their views. I think they just want things to stay the same - some see safety in that. However, change is going on all the time and it is difficult for me to understand why this just seems to pass some people by.

Don't hide behind your petticoat OB as it does you a disservice as no one is discrediting your opinions but is merely pointing out that thus so far many of your predictions for Linear TV and doomsayer forebodings for it are not working out as you predicted.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35976563)
Disney's Kevin Mayer is suggesting that Disney + will be the exclusive home of all Disney content when it is fully established. That appears to answer the question posed about whether Disney would still grant access to their programmes on channels such as Sky.

Interesting also that he is setting his sights on providing a sports option to add to its general entertainment and children's options on its site. No doubt, Disney will be learning from the experience of Eleven Sports in the UK. I see battles with Sky Television looming large here.

http://www.nscreenmedia.com/disney-anchor-tenancy/

“We would like to have an international trilogy of services where it makes sense. We want a sports service like we have here; we want a general entertainment service, which would be Hulu, in different places around the world where we don’t have that; and we want to have Disney around the world.”

Now where have l heard that one before...;)

OLD BOY 22-12-2018 17:19

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35976573)
Don't hide behind your petticoat OB as it does you a disservice as no one is discrediting your opinions but is merely pointing out that thus so far many of your predictions for Linear TV and doomsayer forebodings for it are not working out as you predicted.

Are you talking about those predictions for 2035, Den? The assertion you make that they are not turning out to be true makes no sense. Please explain.

By the way, it's only 2018 where I live!

Mad Max 22-12-2018 17:22

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Don't hide behind your petticoat OB as it does you a disservice as no one is discrediting your opinions but is merely pointing out that thus so far many of your predictions for Linear TV and doomsayer forebodings for it are not working out as you predicted.
Den, you cannot deny that peoples viewing habits have changed, and will continue to change in the future, things move on, it's called progress, to be fair to OB, he is merely pointing out and supplying links to what the industry experts are telling us, the evidence is there, if you wish to deny it then thats up to you, but things are changing and I for one welcome it.

OLD BOY 27-12-2018 12:01

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This appears to herald the beginning of the end for satellite tv. So although Sky describe their new internet strategy as 'complementing' their existing satellite service, the internet service will ultimately take over.

https://spacenews.com/directv-owner-...ng-satellites/

muppetman11 27-12-2018 12:19

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I'm sure if It wasn't for regulatory issues Comcast would love to purchase VM.

denphone 27-12-2018 12:23

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35977010)
I'm sure if It wasn't for regulatory issues Comcast would love to purchase VM.

Indeed MM but as you have put very succinctly it ain't going to happen.

Hugh 27-12-2018 15:10

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35977008)
This appears to herald the beginning of the end for satellite tv. So although Sky describe their new internet strategy as 'complementing' their existing satellite service, the internet service will ultimately take over.

https://spacenews.com/directv-owner-...ng-satellites/

That’s fine in the U.K., which is geographically compact, but a very large part of the USA (especially mid-West rural areas) it is not economically feasible to lay cable for hundreds, if not thousands, of miles to reach the outlying areas.

OLD BOY 27-12-2018 15:46

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35977019)
That’s fine in the U.K., which is geographically compact, but a very large part of the USA (especially mid-West rural areas) it is not economically feasible to lay cable for hundreds, if not thousands, of miles to reach the outlying areas.

Although of course they will have had similar problems bringing electricity to those places.

Hugh 27-12-2018 16:05

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35977023)
Although of course they will have had similar problems bringing electricity to those places.

Unless you count the local power stations...

Raider999 27-12-2018 16:06

Re: The future of TV, broadcasting and media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35977008)
This appears to herald the beginning of the end for satellite tv. So although Sky describe their new internet strategy as 'complementing' their existing satellite service, the internet service will ultimately take over.

https://spacenews.com/directv-owner-...ng-satellites/

Interesting, although I see it contradicts another of your posts by saying 55% of tv consumption is linear not under half

jfman 27-12-2018 16:45

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Of course someone saying they’ve launched their last satellite, assuming they can live up to the aspiration, the article ignores the designed lifespan of 15 years giving many years of linear content to come. :)

Sky have until 2027/8 with the current orbital position. I don’t see 2019 being the year of change.

OLD BOY 27-12-2018 18:18

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35977026)
Interesting, although I see it contradicts another of your posts by saying 55% of tv consumption is linear not under half

You need to compare like with like when looking at statistics. The article is about US TV. The figure you say I quoted will have come from a linked article - I would need to have that in front of me to comment on it.

Edit: This is likely to be the article you were referring to, which is talking about UK, not US audiences.

https://www.bmmagazine.co.uk/opinion...-media-sector/




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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35977028)
Of course someone saying they’ve launched their last satellite, assuming they can live up to the aspiration, the article ignores the designed lifespan of 15 years giving many years of linear content to come. :)

Sky have until 2027/8 with the current orbital position. I don’t see 2019 being the year of change.

That goes without saying, and I certainly did not indicate that satellite transmission would end soon. The beginning of the end is the phrase I used. I would imagine satellite viewers are good for at least another 20 years!

spiderplant 27-12-2018 18:22

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35977019)
That’s fine in the U.K., which is geographically compact

So when's cable coming to me? ;-)

muppetman11 27-12-2018 19:07

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Disney+ Sport

What sport is that in the UK Old Boy ?

OLD BOY 27-12-2018 19:14

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35977039)
Disney+ Sport

What sport is that in the UK Old Boy ?

We don't yet know the answer to that, but initially the service may have a lot of US sport on it. As time goes on, they will land deals to carry various UK sports in all probability.

muppetman11 27-12-2018 19:16

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35977042)
We don't yet know the answer to that, but initially the service may have a lot of US sport on it. As time goes on, they will land deals to carry various UK sports in all probability.

They won't have any Sport on it in the UK , the US Sport is tied up with BT in its deal with ESPN.

OLD BOY 27-12-2018 19:18

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35977044)
They won't have any Sport on it in the UK , the US Sport is tied up with BT in its deal with ESPN.

I have no information on what content there will be, but their three-strand offerings will be rolled out globally. Obviously, actual content, particularly sport, will vary country by country.

muppetman11 27-12-2018 19:22

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You can't roll out Sports content when you own no Sports rights in that particular country.

https://advanced-television.com/2015...osts-bt-sport/

Chris 27-12-2018 19:35

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I’ve read through this thread and I can’t see anything new that isn’t already being discussed in one of 3 or 4 other open threads all started by the same OP.

I am therefore closing this thread, to avoid pointless duplication of the same few talking points.

See for example https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33705051



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