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Hi all,

I am back. Guess what, ViVID 350 has finally arrived in my area. Will be activated tomorrow. Can't wait to get start. :)

FTTC 78Meg / 18Meg v VM 350Meg / 20Meg

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Oh bollocks....

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Oh dear

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Oh no, the bad penny's turned up again.

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What the smegging smeg has he smegging done.........

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I apologise for my initial reaction - what I actually meant was

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2018/08/9.gif

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exactly, it isn't even funny. I am just glad that I am not an admin and don't have to keep track of all the threads with his bullshit in.

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Here it goes. I am now live with ViVID 350.

Plusnet 73/18: http://www.speedtest.net/result/7562074914
VM 388/21: http://www.speedtest.net/result/7562078263

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Overall very impressed with ViVID350 so far but I do wish VM do have a better upload speed eg: 50Meg.

Would be nice if VM roll out 350/50 at the same price :)

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Why would they roll out 50Mb upload as standard when no-one else can do it nationally? There is no competition or real demand apart from specialised users that require a faster upload but they are very much in the minority, it doesnt make commercial sense to introduce extra capacity upgrades when then D3.1 upgrade is well underway already.

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When will VM bring in D3.1 upgrade? I would love to have 500/250 with D3.1

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When will D3.1 likely to arrive? I'm interested in taking it up

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Be kind please. Are these downstream and upstream power level & SNR look ok for ViVID 350?

Downstream bonded channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
1 323000000 0.4 40 256 qam 24
2 315000000 0.5 40 256 qam 23
3 307000000 0.5 40 256 qam 22
4 299000000 0.9 38 256 qam 21
5 291000000 0.7 38 256 qam 20
6 283000000 0.7 38 256 qam 19
7 275000000 0.9 38 256 qam 18
8 267000000 0.7 38 256 qam 17
9 259000000 0.2 38 256 qam 16
10 251000000 0.4 38 256 qam 15
11 243000000 0.5 38 256 qam 14
12 235000000 0.7 38 256 qam 13
13 227000000 1 38 256 qam 12
14 219000000 1.2 40 256 qam 11
15 211000000 1.5 40 256 qam 10
16 203000000 1.4 40 256 qam 9
17 195000000 1.5 40 256 qam 8
18 187000000 2 40 256 qam 7
19 179000000 2.2 40 256 qam 6
20 171000000 2.5 40 256 qam 5
21 163000000 2.4 40 256 qam 4
22 155000000 2.4 40 256 qam 3
23 147000000 2.7 40 256 qam 2
24 139000000 3 40 256 qam 1


Downstream bonded channels
Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
1 Locked 40.3 0 0
2 Locked 40.3 6 0
3 Locked 40.3 4 0
4 Locked 38.9 5 0
5 Locked 38.9 8 0
6 Locked 38.9 9 0
7 Locked 38.9 7 0
8 Locked 38.6 8 0
9 Locked 38.6 4 0
10 Locked 38.9 2 0
11 Locked 38.6 1 0
12 Locked 38.9 6 0
13 Locked 38.9 5 0
14 Locked 40.3 5 0
15 Locked 40.3 5 0
16 Locked 40.3 6 0
17 Locked 40.3 5 0
18 Locked 40.3 6 0
19 Locked 40.3 7 0
20 Locked 40.3 7 0
21 Locked 40.9 9 0
22 Locked 40.3 12 0
23 Locked 40.3 15 0
24 Locked 40.3 8 0

Upstream bonded channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
1 39400000 49.5 5120 64 qam 2
2 25800000 49.5 5120 64 qam 4
3 32600000 49.5 5120 64 qam 3
4 46200000 49.5 5120 64 qam 1


Upstream bonded channels
Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
1 ATDMA 0 0 0 0
2 ATDMA 0 0 0 0
3 ATDMA 0 0 0 0
4 ATDMA 0 0 0 0

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Yep all looking good

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Thanks Martin D :) much helpful.

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Technically, there is an ability to have much greater speed (up and down) but not with VM...did you mean with VM or any provider?

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oh my all those bad memories of your leaving then coming back enough to make a glass eye cry :'(

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I am staying with VM for next three years! I think the congestion in my area has now fixed and disappear. No problem with 389/22 all day yesterday and today with no issues, can't complaint.

Plus on my further note: telfordcable will be good respect from now on.

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its always somewhere for telford to post which will free up the forum for everyone else :angel:

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Who are you?

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Good to hear you are happy with your VM service.

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check out this almost 10 year old thread for a taste of telford :-)

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33649078

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Thanks ;)

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For now...

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I agree that giving everyone 50meg upload would be silly, but I think that we are starting to see more and more demand for higher upload speeds as more and more people get into streaming. It's still relatively niche compared to most users, but Virgin would do well by offering higher upload speeds on higher packages I feel.

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yeah, it might be the defining selling point for them, detract from the price war and tilt the balance in their favour with regards to VM vs BT vs Sky etc for bulndle deals and packages

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Then why is Openreach have G.Fast 50Mbps upload then? Surely Virgin Media would love to beat that!

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So now you're back with VM, yet you're whinging already?

You know the package you signed up for, so you must be happy with it?

Or are we back to square one again with you?

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I think you should cancel VM and sign up to G.Fast then leave us again. ;) /s

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What other "national" provider offers more than 50Mb upstream currently?

As for D3.1 dates, you all know I cant tell you ;)

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Oh...yeah, it is not a national provider, or maybe it is, I dunno.

Since Google Fiber came out though loads of places have been offering those gig up and down speeds...the UK, has hyperoptic:

https://www.hyperoptic.com/?gclid=EA...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

Obviously nobody is going to offset living where they are to get it as it is only available to multi property complexes / places (like large flats and housing complexes) and is not worth the offset - unless you already happen to live in one.

Unless I am interpreting that all incorrectly, in which case please accept my apologies in advance. :)

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Beacuse it is only available to a very small portion of the UK so there is no need for VM to try and match or beat it.

You really don't need an upload that fast though. I left VM 2 years ago and have been happy with Sky Fibre 38Mpbs and the upload speed has been fine.

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I would like a bigger upload speed, and would pay a [reasonably] higher price for it.

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Are you sure you don't mean this one Chloe, it should fit Telford's needs to a "T".

https://archive.google.com/tisp/index.html

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:D:D:D

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I know this is the summer silly season, but, in this thread, can we not learn the lessons of the rise of Donald Trump and Boris Johnson? Give narcissists the attention and oxygen they crave if you want them to stick around.

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Yeah I remember you saying as much before ; you were basically the person I was thinking about. But yes, not worth the offset of living in like a social housing complex.

The only other company I know that offers similar in the UK is Gigaclear but as I understand it, their requirements are pretty much the same:

https://www.gigaclear.com/postcode-checker/

(I doubt that you area would be accepting orders, but you never know). As I understand it, enough folks in once place need to show interest, and if they do then one of the two companies will send someone out to install and if they pick up like 10 to 13 customers per install they generally break even on the costs of install. (For that place).

Gigaclears plans are more expensive than Hyperoptic, though:

https://www.gigaclear.com/our-broadb...ucts/for-home/

I wouldn't say some of the latter prices like Home ULTRA are cost effective ; 76 a month even with the vat back is a lot and all the installation costs are a lot to soak up.

Soon enough (in the next year or two to come) some of those companies may start expanding into residential but other than that mot will wait for the cap of 20 or 50 for up to be broken and rely on the rollout of 5G to take care of mobile.

It looks like a tiresome 6 to 18 months in the mean time, though.

Curt was thinking that you might need a lot more for up (like a gig up) so I figured that Giga would be better as they generally are more spread out in the big cities than Hyperoptic, and don't seem to have quite a North / South divide. Their customer service seems reasonable, too. The cost does seem pretty high though, even if you are eligible.

Hope that helps.

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Don't worry, Openreach are gearing up to push FTTP further into their network, all new builds of 30 or more already qualify and have for nearly 2 yrs. as for the rest you're looking at 2025-2030 before you see a significant footprint.

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Have Open Reach put a timeline on it? Everything I am told is that nothing will be available at improved speeds before the end of this decade.

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Here's the ISP review of the 2020 roll out, I'll find the 2030 one later when I get back (have to go out)

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...uk-cities.html

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I love BoJo, I wanted him to be PM after David Cameron and I hope he gets in next time. We'll all be better off for it.

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The thing is this thread actually does provide a lot more information than it just being about one poster. Like when people say the easiest way to stand up to a troll is ignoring them...how about continue to discuss things in an adult way, over said person's head. Facts and civility usually send a trouble maker away too so rising above it does some good, too. There is good to this thread, too - it is not just about giving Oxygen to fire.

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I see Hyperoptic (Apartments) and Gigaclear (Rural) being mentioned but nothing about CityFibre (Partnered with Vodafone). They are the the major player at the moment with the mst ambitious plans outwith VM and OR for FTTH. They are also pinching a lot of VM staff which isn't helpful :D

Might be worth considering... but CF arent building in areas where VM have expansion plans for FTTH... coincidence?

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And in Leeds, CityFibre are only (at the moment) supplying to schools and businesses.

https://www.cityfibre.com/gigabit-cities/leeds/

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For the most part (best I understand it) there is no real option to have these incredible levels of speed at residential premises. I haven't heard about hospitals but like you said above, schools and businesses / social housing and that is about it. We'll all get it one day but I figure that we should remember to be grateful that we all live in homes / have our own houses etc and are not struggling in social housing. :)

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Interesting, apparently my postcode is "close" to the network, registered interest but i can't see them doing our estate anytime soon

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Serious question: why do people want these fast speeds? I get the upload speed increase but for download?

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mine is bigger than yours https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2018/08/23.jpg

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To download quicker, just like uploading quicker, kind of obvious really.

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I must admit I agree with you. Personally for me the upload speed would be the deal breaker. For instance if the was a provider who offered 50/25 they'd get my business. 50Mb download is more than enough for me.

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Not obvious at all. Can all sites sustain Gb speeds? No, not very many at all. Why would they need to. The speeds would be governed more by the content and the business delivery model than your inability to wait a few seconds longer.

Maybe I worded my question wrong: why do people need, not want, faster speeds?

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I forgot we were talking about Gb speeds, i guess if someone can upload gigs of photos at that speed then they would also want to be able to download them just as quickly.

Personally i am happy with my 150mb download and 10mbit upload.

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Even if it in Gig (Q unit), Hyperoptic do have it as a part of their T&C that you can't use so much that it is to the determent of other users:
Is that standard procedure / for every provider?

From what I can make of it, it seems to be shared per block of properties with Hyperoptic and if one uses too much it may effect the speed / throttle it for someone else...kind of like a shared plan. Is that correct?

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All residential internet services are contended.

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Most people I know are happy with the current download, esp on the 350 tier, its just the larger upload I/we want.

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Yeah for me it's the higher upload, and the higher stability full fibre would bring